Post-Seconday Education
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RE: Post-Seconday Educati
That leads to a situation where only the wealthy can afford a post-secondary education, Jay. Education is one of the best ways to break the cycle of poverty and requiring students to fully fund their own education makes that almost impossible.
That leads to a situation where only the wealthy can afford a post-secondary education, Jay. Education is one of the best ways to break the cycle of poverty and requiring students to fully fund their own education makes that almost impossible.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
That leads to a situation where only the wealthy can afford a post-secondary education, Jay. Education is one of the best ways to break the cycle of poverty and requiring students to fully fund their own education makes that almost impossible.
That leads to a situation where only the wealthy can afford a post-secondary education, Jay. Education is one of the best ways to break the cycle of poverty and requiring students to fully fund their own education makes that almost impossible.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
That leads to a situation where only the wealthy can afford a post-secondary education, Jay. Education is one of the best ways to break the cycle of poverty and requiring students to fully fund their own education makes that almost impossible.
That leads to a situation where only the wealthy can afford a post-secondary education, Jay. Education is one of the best ways to break the cycle of poverty and requiring students to fully fund their own education makes that almost impossible.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
We already, even though our present system is subsidised, have students graduating with massive debt loads that keep them from fully participating in the economy for years after they graduate.
In the cases of lower-paid professions they may not get out from under the debt-load for decades. In the meantime they cannot build savings for retirement etc. That leads to a staff shortage in lower paid professions yet we don't want to pay people more.
An educated population is to Canada's benefit. The first degree should be free.
We already, even though our present system is subsidised, have students graduating with massive debt loads that keep them from fully participating in the economy for years after they graduate.
In the cases of lower-paid professions they may not get out from under the debt-load for decades. In the meantime they cannot build savings for retirement etc. That leads to a staff shortage in lower paid professions yet we don't want to pay people more.
An educated population is to Canada's benefit. The first degree should be free.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
We already, even though our present system is subsidised, have students graduating with massive debt loads that keep them from fully participating in the economy for years after they graduate.
In the cases of lower-paid professions they may not get out from under the debt-load for decades. In the meantime they cannot build savings for retirement etc. That leads to a staff shortage in lower paid professions yet we don't want to pay people more.
An educated population is to Canada's benefit. The first degree should be free.
We already, even though our present system is subsidised, have students graduating with massive debt loads that keep them from fully participating in the economy for years after they graduate.
In the cases of lower-paid professions they may not get out from under the debt-load for decades. In the meantime they cannot build savings for retirement etc. That leads to a staff shortage in lower paid professions yet we don't want to pay people more.
An educated population is to Canada's benefit. The first degree should be free.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
We already, even though our present system is subsidised, have students graduating with massive debt loads that keep them from fully participating in the economy for years after they graduate.
In the cases of lower-paid professions they may not get out from under the debt-load for decades. In the meantime they cannot build savings for retirement etc. That leads to a staff shortage in lower paid professions yet we don't want to pay people more.
An educated population is to Canada's benefit. The first degree should be free.
We already, even though our present system is subsidised, have students graduating with massive debt loads that keep them from fully participating in the economy for years after they graduate.
In the cases of lower-paid professions they may not get out from under the debt-load for decades. In the meantime they cannot build savings for retirement etc. That leads to a staff shortage in lower paid professions yet we don't want to pay people more.
An educated population is to Canada's benefit. The first degree should be free.
RB,
I tend to agree with you regarding University. With one difference, I think the graduates need to "give back" to the province that paid for their degree.
That is, I would like to see a system where by a student gets their degree paid for free of charge(max 7 years), however, the student must then live in the province of the university they attended for the same period of time that it took to get their degree. If they choose to move then the student would have to pay the full cost of their university education.
This does a couple of things, it allows everyone an opportunity to get a university degree if they wish. Secondly, it keeps some of these graduates in the province so they "pay back" through income tax for their education. For provinces like Manitoba, Saskatchewan, PEI, etc it would mean that these university students then stay in the province from anywhere from 6 years to 14 years. By that time the graduate may start a family and put down roots and decide to stay in the province.
However, for those who choose not to "pay back" they have that option. They would simply be in the student load situation that they're in now.
Again, a new concept. Sort of radical but something needs to be done to help out our young and try to keep them in our provinces at the same time.
I tend to agree with you regarding University. With one difference, I think the graduates need to "give back" to the province that paid for their degree.
That is, I would like to see a system where by a student gets their degree paid for free of charge(max 7 years), however, the student must then live in the province of the university they attended for the same period of time that it took to get their degree. If they choose to move then the student would have to pay the full cost of their university education.
This does a couple of things, it allows everyone an opportunity to get a university degree if they wish. Secondly, it keeps some of these graduates in the province so they "pay back" through income tax for their education. For provinces like Manitoba, Saskatchewan, PEI, etc it would mean that these university students then stay in the province from anywhere from 6 years to 14 years. By that time the graduate may start a family and put down roots and decide to stay in the province.
However, for those who choose not to "pay back" they have that option. They would simply be in the student load situation that they're in now.
Again, a new concept. Sort of radical but something needs to be done to help out our young and try to keep them in our provinces at the same time.
RB,
I tend to agree with you regarding University. With one difference, I think the graduates need to "give back" to the province that paid for their degree.
That is, I would like to see a system where by a student gets their degree paid for free of charge(max 7 years), however, the student must then live in the province of the university they attended for the same period of time that it took to get their degree. If they choose to move then the student would have to pay the full cost of their university education.
This does a couple of things, it allows everyone an opportunity to get a university degree if they wish. Secondly, it keeps some of these graduates in the province so they "pay back" through income tax for their education. For provinces like Manitoba, Saskatchewan, PEI, etc it would mean that these university students then stay in the province from anywhere from 6 years to 14 years. By that time the graduate may start a family and put down roots and decide to stay in the province.
However, for those who choose not to "pay back" they have that option. They would simply be in the student load situation that they're in now.
Again, a new concept. Sort of radical but something needs to be done to help out our young and try to keep them in our provinces at the same time.
I tend to agree with you regarding University. With one difference, I think the graduates need to "give back" to the province that paid for their degree.
That is, I would like to see a system where by a student gets their degree paid for free of charge(max 7 years), however, the student must then live in the province of the university they attended for the same period of time that it took to get their degree. If they choose to move then the student would have to pay the full cost of their university education.
This does a couple of things, it allows everyone an opportunity to get a university degree if they wish. Secondly, it keeps some of these graduates in the province so they "pay back" through income tax for their education. For provinces like Manitoba, Saskatchewan, PEI, etc it would mean that these university students then stay in the province from anywhere from 6 years to 14 years. By that time the graduate may start a family and put down roots and decide to stay in the province.
However, for those who choose not to "pay back" they have that option. They would simply be in the student load situation that they're in now.
Again, a new concept. Sort of radical but something needs to be done to help out our young and try to keep them in our provinces at the same time.
RB,
I tend to agree with you regarding University. With one difference, I think the graduates need to "give back" to the province that paid for their degree.
That is, I would like to see a system where by a student gets their degree paid for free of charge(max 7 years), however, the student must then live in the province of the university they attended for the same period of time that it took to get their degree. If they choose to move then the student would have to pay the full cost of their university education.
This does a couple of things, it allows everyone an opportunity to get a university degree if they wish. Secondly, it keeps some of these graduates in the province so they "pay back" through income tax for their education. For provinces like Manitoba, Saskatchewan, PEI, etc it would mean that these university students then stay in the province from anywhere from 6 years to 14 years. By that time the graduate may start a family and put down roots and decide to stay in the province.
However, for those who choose not to "pay back" they have that option. They would simply be in the student load situation that they're in now.
Again, a new concept. Sort of radical but something needs to be done to help out our young and try to keep them in our provinces at the same time.
I tend to agree with you regarding University. With one difference, I think the graduates need to "give back" to the province that paid for their degree.
That is, I would like to see a system where by a student gets their degree paid for free of charge(max 7 years), however, the student must then live in the province of the university they attended for the same period of time that it took to get their degree. If they choose to move then the student would have to pay the full cost of their university education.
This does a couple of things, it allows everyone an opportunity to get a university degree if they wish. Secondly, it keeps some of these graduates in the province so they "pay back" through income tax for their education. For provinces like Manitoba, Saskatchewan, PEI, etc it would mean that these university students then stay in the province from anywhere from 6 years to 14 years. By that time the graduate may start a family and put down roots and decide to stay in the province.
However, for those who choose not to "pay back" they have that option. They would simply be in the student load situation that they're in now.
Again, a new concept. Sort of radical but something needs to be done to help out our young and try to keep them in our provinces at the same time.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
That would work okay for some professions where there is already a staff shortage, but not so well in others. A couple of examples....
We need doctors and nurses in Manitoba, so requiring people in those professions to stay in province makes sense, especially if they can sent to remote communities.
We have two universities and a community college teaching English and/or journalism though. We churn out a lot of graduates. We do not have enough positions in journalism for all those graduates though.
Right now many move to other provinces to find work. Manitobans still see their work all of the time, so they are arguably still serving us. If they were required to stay here it is extremely doubtful they could find enough work to live on.
That would work okay for some professions where there is already a staff shortage, but not so well in others. A couple of examples....
We need doctors and nurses in Manitoba, so requiring people in those professions to stay in province makes sense, especially if they can sent to remote communities.
We have two universities and a community college teaching English and/or journalism though. We churn out a lot of graduates. We do not have enough positions in journalism for all those graduates though.
Right now many move to other provinces to find work. Manitobans still see their work all of the time, so they are arguably still serving us. If they were required to stay here it is extremely doubtful they could find enough work to live on.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
That would work okay for some professions where there is already a staff shortage, but not so well in others. A couple of examples....
We need doctors and nurses in Manitoba, so requiring people in those professions to stay in province makes sense, especially if they can sent to remote communities.
We have two universities and a community college teaching English and/or journalism though. We churn out a lot of graduates. We do not have enough positions in journalism for all those graduates though.
Right now many move to other provinces to find work. Manitobans still see their work all of the time, so they are arguably still serving us. If they were required to stay here it is extremely doubtful they could find enough work to live on.
That would work okay for some professions where there is already a staff shortage, but not so well in others. A couple of examples....
We need doctors and nurses in Manitoba, so requiring people in those professions to stay in province makes sense, especially if they can sent to remote communities.
We have two universities and a community college teaching English and/or journalism though. We churn out a lot of graduates. We do not have enough positions in journalism for all those graduates though.
Right now many move to other provinces to find work. Manitobans still see their work all of the time, so they are arguably still serving us. If they were required to stay here it is extremely doubtful they could find enough work to live on.
RE: Post-Seconday Educati
That would work okay for some professions where there is already a staff shortage, but not so well in others. A couple of examples....
We need doctors and nurses in Manitoba, so requiring people in those professions to stay in province makes sense, especially if they can sent to remote communities.
We have two universities and a community college teaching English and/or journalism though. We churn out a lot of graduates. We do not have enough positions in journalism for all those graduates though.
Right now many move to other provinces to find work. Manitobans still see their work all of the time, so they are arguably still serving us. If they were required to stay here it is extremely doubtful they could find enough work to live on.
That would work okay for some professions where there is already a staff shortage, but not so well in others. A couple of examples....
We need doctors and nurses in Manitoba, so requiring people in those professions to stay in province makes sense, especially if they can sent to remote communities.
We have two universities and a community college teaching English and/or journalism though. We churn out a lot of graduates. We do not have enough positions in journalism for all those graduates though.
Right now many move to other provinces to find work. Manitobans still see their work all of the time, so they are arguably still serving us. If they were required to stay here it is extremely doubtful they could find enough work to live on.
RB,
Then those people would have a choice, either go to university in a province where there were jobs in their desired fields, get a degree where there is a good possibility of getting employment after graduation in their university province OR they could move out of province and pay the full cost of their education.
So this program doesn't prevent people from moving but there is a penalty.
Then those people would have a choice, either go to university in a province where there were jobs in their desired fields, get a degree where there is a good possibility of getting employment after graduation in their university province OR they could move out of province and pay the full cost of their education.
So this program doesn't prevent people from moving but there is a penalty.