Police Can Bar High I.Q. Scores

[Scott Free]

What's the cut off in iq for being able to be a police officer (Scott, I'm doubting it's below 100... lol).

In Canada its 118 but it varies from department to department. The highest requirement I've seen is in the US where some county wanted 122.

I've actually been following this for some years now.

And the reasoning? Do they make worse officers? Work worse with others or the public? Are they less able to access their training and function on pure muscle memory? What is it exactly?

The official explanation is that more intelligent police would become bored with the job. The argument is that by keeping them within a certain range they will have better job satisfaction. I don't buy that argument.

Since I don't know the reasons (the official one is a smoke show IMO) I have looked at this as a rhetoricist might; that is to find the effect, in that, the effect should expose the real reason. So the question becomes: What does limiting the IQs of police accomplish for society?

I think the reason is pretty obvious: So intelligent people can get away with more. The majority are held within limits that the more intelligent aren't. The political elite are not so stupid as to say they don't want smart police but that is the effect of requiring them to fail IQ tests. There is an undeniable benefit. The medium is the message.

I have interacted with police while friends watched dumb founded. One told me it was like watching Obi talk to a storm trooper. I'm just saying that once you understand their training and their limited intellectual capacity it becomes very easy to manipulate them. Again this seems like a benefit that the political and monied elite might enjoy more often than not - though they wouldn't dare admit it.

 

[shadowshiv]

In Canada its 118 but it varies from department to department. The highest requirement I've seen is in the US where some county wanted 122.

I've actually been following this for some years now.



The official explanation is that more intelligent police would become bored with the job. The argument is that by keeping them within a certain range they will have better job satisfaction. I don't buy that argument.

Since I don't know the reasons (the official one is a smoke show IMO) I have looked at this as a rhetoricist might; that is to find the effect, in that, the effect should expose the real reason. So the question becomes: What does limiting the IQs of police accomplish for society?

I think the reason is pretty obvious: So intelligent people can get away with more. The majority are held within limits that the more intelligent aren't. The political elite are not so stupid as to say they don't want smart police but that is the effect of requiring them to fail IQ tests. There is an undeniable benefit. The medium is the message.

I have interacted with police while friends watched dumb founded. One told me it was like watching Obi talk to a storm trooper. I'm just saying that once you understand their training and their limited intellectual capacity it becomes very easy to manipulate them. Again this seems like a benefit that the political and monied elite might enjoy more often than not - though they wouldn't dare admit it.

You don't seem to like police officers very much. You call them stupid and you say they have a limited intellectual capacity. My father is a retired police officer and he is certainly NOT stupid and he also has a healthy amount of intellectual capacity.

 

[Scott Free]

You don't seem to like police officers very much.

I have an aversion to anyone armed and in body armour with a proclivity toward violence.

You call them stupid and you say they have a limited intellectual capacity.

That is the fact based on their IQ; yes.

My father is a retired police officer and he is certainly NOT stupid and he also has a healthy amount of intellectual capacity.

That doesn't mean anything to me. I'm happy for you that you love your dad. Has he ever killed anyone?

Perhaps you would like to beat me up so I wouldn't dare say such things? Maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

 

[karrie]

Perhaps you would like to beat me up so I wouldn't dare say such things? Maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

That's a completely tacky route to take in your discussion. Especially given that shadow's got to be one of our mushiest, most peaceful, kind members Scott. I'd believe such accusations of you long before I believed them of him. Tacky.

 

[Colpy]

I have an aversion to anyone armed and in body armour with a proclivity toward violence.



That is the fact based on their IQ; yes.



That doesn't mean anything to me. I'm happy for you that you love your dad. Has he ever killed anyone?

Perhaps you would like to beat me up so I wouldn't dare say such things? Maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

Don't be an idiot.

I have one good friend that is a police officer in Halifax. She is a sweetheart, and very intelligent.

I wish you'd take a short trip to Somalia, back in '92, Darfur now, the old Yugoslavia in the 90s..........you'd soon discover what anarchy is really like.

Anarchy is a ridiculous, unrealistic ideal simply because of this undeniable fact: nature abhors a vacuum. That includes a power vacuum. Which means that an anarchist's society soon comes to be ruled by the nastiest bunch of blood-thirsty killers with the most weapons. ALWAYS........that is how we came out of the Dark Ages, and it has taken us well over 1,000 years to create a society of rule-of-law where the little guy is reasonably safe and reasonably secure.....and the police are part of what makes us that way.....

Anarchism is a religion.....a baseless belief in a utopian heaven in which all are blessed.....with absolutely no foundation in reason.

BTW, I carried a gun and wore body armour and taught armed guards how to defend themselves for 10 years. And I protected the assets of the corporate elite! OMG!

So what?

 

[Scott Free]

Oh brother :roll:

 

[Colpy]

Oh brother :roll:

Rendered speechless by the beauty of my argument?

Have no fear, all you need do is ask, and I will shine additional rays of enlightenment through the fog of your ignorance........

I'm kinda like an intellectual lighthouse, at least when in the presence of anarchists....

 

[shadowshiv]

I have an aversion to anyone armed and in body armour with a proclivity toward violence.



That is the fact based on their IQ; yes.



That doesn't mean anything to me. I'm happy for you that you love your dad. Has he ever killed anyone?

Perhaps you would like to beat me up so I wouldn't dare say such things? Maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

No, he hasn't. And I think it is an honour to be like my dad. But I do know police officers(friends of my dad) that have died in the line of duty to protect your ungrateful ass.

Have you killed anyone? If you did, it certainly would not have been from your razor-sharp wit.:roll:

And why the hell would I want to beat you up? Yep. I would really want to beat you up because you say things about my father and myself. I'm afraid that you're not that important.:lol:

 

[shadowshiv]

That's a completely tacky route to take in your discussion. Especially given that shadow's got to be one of our mushiest, most peaceful, kind members Scott. I'd believe such accusations of you long before I believed them of him. Tacky.

Thank you for the kind words, Karrie.:smile:

 

[Scott Free]

No, he hasn't. And I think it is an honour to be like my dad. But I do know police officers(friends of my dad) that have died in the line of duty to protect your ungrateful ass.

Have you killed anyone? If you did, it certainly would not have been from your razor-sharp wit.:roll:

And why the hell would I want to beat you up? Yep. I would really want to beat you up because you say things about my father and myself. I'm afraid that you're not that important.:lol:

Your right. I'm just a bad mean miserable person and all police are like your daddy. My bad.

I was 13 when I had to listen to my friends father confess to his son (my best friend) that he had killed an 18 year old boy in cold blood. He said it was murder and he should go to prison but all that was going to happen is that they were going to transfer him for a couple of years.

He had a good daddy too.

It makes perfect sense to have armed gorillas in body armour enforcing dictates and killing indiscriminately :roll: And yes, that is what police do. I know first hand. I know the drill, we need police or we would turn into savages running around naked stealing and killing - we wouldn't eat vegetables either. Police and their violence is what keeps us from The Lord Of The Flies.. Blaa, Blaa, Blaa, nice justification for brutality, but the only problem is that it isn't true.

So, while I understand emotional outbursts, I will not be held hostage by them.

I will also agree, that as far as you know, your daddy was a good daddy - your lucky for that. My best friend was destroyed by the reality of his father.