Pierre Poilievre

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I don't think so. I know people who are pretty smart and voted for Trump, and it has nothing to do with the Orange Kool-Aid Twats comments around stolen elections.
Maybe you can explain how Biden got fifteen million more votes than Clinton , Obama and Harris ? Where did all those Biden votes go ? The only way Tecumsehsbones can explain it is by calling me stupid . Can you do better ?
 

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Maybe you can explain how Biden got fifteen million more votes than Clinton , Obama and Harris ? Where did all those Biden votes go ? The only way Tecumsehsbones can explain it is by calling me stupid . Can you do better ?
Drink up.
 

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The reason the Democrats lost was because they wanted to be as extreme as the Republicans.
If they'd governed closer to the middle, well...
Now Trump is President.
 

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The reason the Democrats lost was because they wanted to be as extreme as the Republicans.
If they'd governed closer to the middle, well...
Now Trump is President.
That may be a good thing . We thought we were getting a good thing with the Dauphin and got an expensive dud . Maybe thinking Trump is a dud might prove incorrect.
 
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The reason the Democrats lost was because they wanted to be as extreme as the Republicans.
If they'd governed closer to the middle, well...
Now Trump is President.
The reason the Democrats lost , is because they pushed and pushed against the fabric of society with no let up . Could they not expect push back . On top of which they ran a totally unrelatable candidate .
 

Ron in Regina

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The reason the Democrats lost , is because they pushed and pushed against the fabric of society with no let up . Could they not expect push back . On top of which they ran a totally unrelatable candidate .
Maybe the truth is too hard to take for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals with regard to the lesson they should have learned from president-elect Donald Trump’s sweeping victory on Tuesday in the U.S. presidential election.

That is, they’ve been using the same failed strategy to attack Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre in Canada that Kamala Harris and the Democrats used to try to defeat the Republican presidential nominee; it not only wasn’t effective, it literally derailed their campaign.

The Biden/Harris White House in the U.S. — mimicked by the Trudeau government in Canada — decided to address middle-class citizens who were fed up with the high cost of living, housing and immigration levels — both legal and illegal — by blaming their political opponents, who weren’t in power, for electing bad people as their leaders.

Lacking any coherent response to the issues that voters were and continue to be angry and worried about, their mantra became that no rational person could vote for the only opposition parties with any chance of replacing them — the Republicans in the U.S. and the Conservatives in Canada — because their leaders were, take your pick, racists, misogynists and fascists. Sound familiar?
And if you supported parties led by racists, misogynists and fascists, they implied, then you must be a racist, misogynist and fascist with no right to have an opinion. That really sounds familiar.

Unsurprisingly, suggesting the real problem with people complaining about the American and Canadian dreams of upward economic ability disappearing right before their eyes was their own vulnerability to falling for simplistic solutions proposed by right-wing populist demagogues, failed to impress those against whom the allegation was made.

It failed because it didn’t answer their questions or address their concerns as they were dismissed by politicians, bureaucrats, pundits and political strategists far higher up the economic ladder than they were, insisting they should disbelieve the evidence they were seeing with their own eyes.

The lesson U.S. Democrats and Canadian Liberals should have learned — which they haven’t — is that if they can’t seriously and coherently address the genuine economic concerns of ordinary citizens that their own policies helped to exacerbate, then they should get out of the way and let someone else give it a try.
 

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Maybe the truth is too hard to take for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals with regard to the lesson they should have learned from president-elect Donald Trump’s sweeping victory on Tuesday in the U.S. presidential election.

That is, they’ve been using the same failed strategy to attack Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre in Canada that Kamala Harris and the Democrats used to try to defeat the Republican presidential nominee; it not only wasn’t effective, it literally derailed their campaign.

The Biden/Harris White House in the U.S. — mimicked by the Trudeau government in Canada — decided to address middle-class citizens who were fed up with the high cost of living, housing and immigration levels — both legal and illegal — by blaming their political opponents, who weren’t in power, for electing bad people as their leaders.

Lacking any coherent response to the issues that voters were and continue to be angry and worried about, their mantra became that no rational person could vote for the only opposition parties with any chance of replacing them — the Republicans in the U.S. and the Conservatives in Canada — because their leaders were, take your pick, racists, misogynists and fascists. Sound familiar?
And if you supported parties led by racists, misogynists and fascists, they implied, then you must be a racist, misogynist and fascist with no right to have an opinion. That really sounds familiar.

Unsurprisingly, suggesting the real problem with people complaining about the American and Canadian dreams of upward economic ability disappearing right before their eyes was their own vulnerability to falling for simplistic solutions proposed by right-wing populist demagogues, failed to impress those against whom the allegation was made.

It failed because it didn’t answer their questions or address their concerns as they were dismissed by politicians, bureaucrats, pundits and political strategists far higher up the economic ladder than they were, insisting they should disbelieve the evidence they were seeing with their own eyes.

The lesson U.S. Democrats and Canadian Liberals should have learned — which they haven’t — is that if they can’t seriously and coherently address the genuine economic concerns of ordinary citizens that their own policies helped to exacerbate, then they should get out of the way and let someone else give it a try.
Insisting men are women and women are men and boys can be girls turned many non voters or soft Democrat supporters to turn red .
 

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One of the reasons the Dems lost was hubris.

They figure anybody who votes for Trump is a hick or a dumbass. When in fact, these are just plain folk who want good jobs and a nice life for their families.
That as well .
 

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The reason the Democrats lost , is because they pushed and pushed against the fabric of society with no let up . Could they not expect push back . On top of which they ran a totally unrelatable candidate .
On the first half we agree.
 

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Saying the quiet bits out loud.

And you wonder why people fear Abortion rights are going to be an issue in Canada.
There are no abortion Rights in Canada. None zero nada zip zant doodley squat. There are no requirements to provide one unless a medical emergency or criminal in nature otherwise it is elective and the onus is on your body and choice to find one for "vanity" purposes.
 
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