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Tax Slave has a point , the wealth is often created in the less populated areas , fishing , mining , logging agriculture. The people in those remote areas live in a different reality from the heavily populated urban areas . To often those with no skin in the game are deciding on things they have little understanding of .
By the same token, if you did give a more weighted vote to the remote area, why would people with no skin in the game be deciding on things they also have little understanding of? You can't move away from 1 person, 1 vote. But you can change how the vote is counted. Proportional representation is one solution. EEE senate is another. Moving some decisions to the provincial level is another.
 

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It’s only day 3 or so of this campaign, so it’s not too late for Carney to jump on this as part of “his” policy platform. Meanwhile, the best indicator of future performance is past practice, it’s absurd to argue that our current Liberal government is in the best position to take on U.S. President Donald Trump in a tariff war…but look at the scoreboard?
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In reality, the Liberals in power pursued reckless policies they were warned would undermine our economy, yet they implemented them anyway.

That led directly to our current predicament of trying to counter Trump on tariffs while our economy is damaged and weak.

But don’t take our word for it — that’s what their current leader, Mark Carney, said.

During the English language Liberal leadership debate on Feb. 25, Carney explained Canada’s predicament in dealing with Trump today.

“I want to be clear about the quote ‘strength’ of our economy,” he said.

“Our economy over the last five years has been driven by a big increase in the labour force, which was largely because of a surge in immigration that is now trying to be controlled, and by government spending that grew over 9% year after year after year — twice the rate of growth of our economy.

Was Carney economically advising Trudeau over this period? Well…apparently, you bet your arse he was!! “So our economy was weak before we got to the point of these threats from President Trump.”
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Dramatically increasing immigration levels weakened Canada because it increased faster than economic growth, resulting in a decrease in inflation-adjusted gross domestic product (GDP) per person, a widely accepted measurement of a nation’s prosperity.

What happened was what the Liberal government was warned would happen in advance by its public servants. The cost of living spiked as did the price of housing and already beleaguered public services like health care became even worse, to the point where even then-prime minister Justin Trudeau had to admit his blunder.

Meanwhile, reckless government spending, far outpacing the growth rate of the Canadian economy during the Liberals’ years in power, further weakened our ability to take on Trump now.

It’s true that Carney correctly diagnosed the problem in hindsight, Monday morning quarterback style. Most people here on this thread right now could’ve told you this though, years ago, with the time and date stamped posts in these threads to back up what they’re saying. Seriously!!

But the idea that as a neophyte politician and prime minister, he’s going to fix this — while being led around by the nose by the same advisers to Trudeau who helped to create this mess, along with the same cabinet ministers who implemented it — is absurd.
 
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It’s only day 3 or so of this campaign, so it’s not too late for Carney to jump on this as part of “his” policy platform. Meanwhile, the best indicator of future performance is past practice, it’s absurd to argue that our current Liberal government is in the best position to take on U.S. President Donald Trump in a tariff war…but look at the scoreboard?
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In reality, the Liberals in power pursued reckless policies they were warned would undermine our economy, yet they implemented them anyway.

That led directly to our current predicament of trying to counter Trump on tariffs while our economy is damaged and weak.

But don’t take our word for it — that’s what their current leader, Mark Carney, said.

During the English language Liberal leadership debate on Feb. 25, Carney explained Canada’s predicament in dealing with Trump today.

“I want to be clear about the quote ‘strength’ of our economy,” he said.

“Our economy over the last five years has been driven by a big increase in the labour force, which was largely because of a surge in immigration that is now trying to be controlled, and by government spending that grew over 9% year after year after year — twice the rate of growth of our economy.

Was Carney economically advising Trudeau over this period? Well…apparently, you bet your arse he was!! “So our economy was weak before we got to the point of these threats from President Trump.”
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Dramatically increasing immigration levels weakened Canada because it increased faster than economic growth, resulting in a decrease in inflation-adjusted gross domestic product (GDP) per person, a widely accepted measurement of a nation’s prosperity.

What happened was what the Liberal government was warned would happen in advance by its public servants. The cost of living spiked as did the price of housing and already beleaguered public services like health care became even worse, to the point where even then-prime minister Justin Trudeau had to admit his blunder.

Meanwhile, reckless government spending, far outpacing the growth rate of the Canadian economy during the Liberals’ years in power, further weakened our ability to take on Trump now.

It’s true that Carney correctly diagnosed the problem in hindsight, Monday morning quarterback style. Most people here on this thread right now could’ve told you this though, years ago, with the time and date stamped posts in these threads to back up what they’re saying. Seriously!!

But the idea that as a neophyte politician and prime minister, he’s going to fix this — while being led around by the nose by the same advisers to Trudeau who helped to create this mess, along with the same cabinet ministers who implemented it — is absurd.
Polls are weighted. There was no magic turn of fortune for the Liberals.
 

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It's more about attitude than policy imo. The whole laissez-faire thing has to go.

The only plan is to win the election
 

Taxslave2

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Otherwise too much will be decided by the rural people. They would get more vote.
As it should be. Rural areas are where the money comes from. Now, dense population areas like GTA make decisions that have no effect on them, but decimate the economies of rural areas, of which city people have no clue and don't care. Take the EV mandate. Yes, they have their place, in the city, but to mandate that ALL vehicles must be EVs shows an elitist total lack of knowledge of how most of the country lives and works. How big a diesel generator is required to charge 20 pickups in a logging camp? Or be forced to use an EV to drive from Whitehorse to anywhere when you have to stop for hours to charge?
 

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By the same token, if you did give a more weighted vote to the remote area, why would people with no skin in the game be deciding on things they also have little understanding of? You can't move away from 1 person, 1 vote. But you can change how the vote is counted. Proportional representation is one solution. EEE senate is another. Moving some decisions to the provincial level is another.
EE Senate would be a start. The PR systems we have been presented with so far do not work for large rural ridings. They also give seats to "The Party" based on total number of votes. Pretty much eliminates independents. Then there is the problem of which ridings are going to have a party insider parachuted into their riding, especially if it is not from your chosen party. BC has voted on this several times, and the populace was wise enough to vote it down each time. The option presented to us was STV. Very complicated to count.
 
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22 Minutes goes elbows up on decency with 'disgusting' Poilievre skit
For a state broadcaster facing the threat of budget cuts, is pointing knives at the potential PM going too far?


Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Apr 01, 2025 • Last updated 13 hours ago • 3 minute read

Halloween character Michael Myers goes elbows up -- and knives up -- on a fake Pierre Poilievre in a comedy skit.
Halloween character Michael Myers goes elbows up -- and knives up -- on Pierre Poilievre, right, played by Chris Wilson, during a This Hour Has 22 Minutes skit. Photo by This Hour Has 22 Minutes /YouTube
The knives are definitely out in this wild federal election campaign, but this a whole new low in Canadian political history.


Unless you think a slasher film killer holding kitchen knives toward a potential prime minister is funny.

Either way, having a serial killer character from the Halloween movies pointing two large blades toward a Pierre Poilievre impersonator on CBC’s This Hour Has 22 Minutes on April Fools Day is something not seen in Canadian politics before.


And it has critics sharpening their outrage.

If it was a comedic slash back at a Conservative leader who has threatened to cut the CBC budget if elected prime minister, some people on social media seemed to pick up on it.



“About as funny as cancer,” wrote Miranda Veracruz on X.

“Seems like a threat,” posted Gunther Johnson.

“Just purely disgusting,” wrote Valerie Munro. “Not funny at all.”

The CBC’s Chuck Thompson told the Toronto Sun that This Hour Has 22 Minutes “has been doing satirical comedy for over 30 years now and this season is certainly no exception.” He added “comedy is so subjective” and “with each episode of 22 Minutes, we recognize not every sketch will be to everyone’s taste. Over the years, seemingly without exception, no politician has dodged the satirical lens of 22 Minutes.”



Or in the case of the Tuesday night broadcast, not just one knife but two. Maybe it should be called “This Hour Has Two Knives.”


The legendary CBC comedy show is known for lampooning leaders – especially conservative ones like Poilievre and U.S. President Donald Trump.

In this case, actor Chris Wilson started the video doing a parody of the now-famous video that Liberal Leader Mark Carney did last week with Canadian comedy legend Mike Myers – where they pretended to be in a hockey rink wearing red Team Canada sweaters as the Liberal leader took the Wayne’s World star through a Canadian purity test with a series of questions including topics like the puppets on Mr. Dressup.



In this mocking version of the original spot, 22 Minutes cast Wilson as Poilievre in a similar venue and with the same Team Canada sweater.

“Yes, play hockey, play hockey,” he says. “Hi Canada, it’s me, Pierre. I’m at a hockey rink. Oh, look. Take that Mark Carney. It’s celebrity sweetheart Mike Myers, also at the rink to endorse me.”

This time it was not the actual Mike Myers of Austin Powers fame, but the masked psycho from the Halloween movies. In the parody “fill-in-the-blank” quiz, they make a joke about “barenaked ladies,” meant to play off the Canadian band, and when asked, “How do you stop a 2-on-1?” the silent slasher makes a throat-slitting motion.

“Killing. Yea. Wow. Yeah, that would do it,” says the jittery fake Poilievre, who is then surprised by the killer lurking behind him by asking, “Is that what that feels like?”


But when the Poilievre character offers to do the same “elbows up” that the real Mike Myers got going on his Saturday Live appearance and with Carney as well, the Halloween character raises his elbows to expose two large kitchen knives pointed directly at the fake Poilievre.

All of this was posted to X under the banner: “Pierre Poilievre gets a killer endorsement.”

Is this funny?

To some who were offended by the real Poilievre’s “biological clock” comment from a day earlier, it seems it was less offensive. For those feeling that there has been a lot of backstabbing toward the Conservative leader, there were certainly not as many laughs.
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Either Carney and the Liberals are working with Trump or Canadians in Ontario have the memory span of a moth.
If C-69 is not repealed, we will be prisoners of the USA.

We are about to shoot ourselves in the foot again, and this time, it might be fatal.
 

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Either Carney and the Liberals are working with Trump or Canadians in Ontario have the memory span of a moth.
If C-69 is not repealed, we will be prisoners of the USA.

We are about to shoot ourselves in the foot again, and this time, it might be fatal.
They are using the same polling compianes and methods as Harris.

A recent Ekos poll has 60% the poll 65 and over with the remaining 40% being the remaining demographics.
 

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They are using the same polling compianes and methods as Harris.

A recent Ekos poll has 60% the poll 65 and over with the remaining 40% being the remaining demographics.
Really, because I've been following the same polls Ron's posting. You know, the ones that had the Conservatives ahead by 20+ points.