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Rep by Pop is what we have now. It doesn't work with the huge disparity in the size of electoral areas. There are rural ridings larger than entire cities. I have been watching what Fair Vote Canada is pushing as well, which is a transferable ballot. It also has problems, like giving seats to The Party for gaining a certain percentage of the vote. The idea is that every party has seats representative of their number of the total votes. Which completely bypasses the whole idea of voting for the best local rep, which makes it even harder for independents. I am tired of MPs and MLAs that bring the party line to the riding, instead of taking our concerns to the rulers.
It is more like 10 or better to our 1 vote when size of the riding is compared. There are ridings bigger than the whole GTA, but they only get 1 vote in the house.
There is no way it is fair for one riding having 100,000 people having the same number of seats as a riding with 1 million people if you base it on geographical areas. I think a proportional representation system might be fairer. It was what TrueDope ran on in 2015 but he backed off when he found he would lose with it. But you would lose your local MP and it would be harder for parties to campaign because all the stuff that is done by the candidates now would need to be done by the party as a whole.
I was responding to tax. But point taken. My riding is always Liberal. The MP is a bit of an ass probably because he knows that even with TrueDope in charge, he would be re-elected. The only thing that may change this is the ridings are being re-distributed in Toronto. We are going from 25 to 24 so I will be in a new riding this time. Not sure where in the old riding was the Liberal bastion but maybe I will be rid of it now and my vote will count.To clarify, I meant Proportional Rep, not Rep By Pop in my last post. Sorry 'bout that.
Back to the point - I think any system we would look at needs to consider that currently, regions of the country elect their MP not necessarily because it's the best person, but because of the party.
My region, for example, NEVER votes Blue in Federal elections, because of the huge French population we have and they will NOT vote Conservative unless the liberal MP really fucks up. And since the current one is Dominic LeBlanc, it's pretty guaranteed we'll go Liberal next election (his reputation but moreso his FAMILY having the history they do, and of course, he's French). Making any inroads in this riding is next to impossible for anyone but Liberals. We've had CLOSE races, but only once have we ever had someone not Liberal.
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And we're not the only riding like this.
So when there's situations like this, you are pretty fucked with how to make voting 'fair'.
Wouldn't need more seats, just a weighted vote, like they do in Regional district votes.
This is where the Pro Rep people make their point. Sort of. The problem is, they relate it to "The Party", as if we are voting for a party, not the individual candidate. I would like to see more independents win, but the system is rigged against them. And naturally, all the parties work together to keep it this way.To clarify, I meant Proportional Rep, not Rep By Pop in my last post. Sorry 'bout that.
Back to the point - I think any system we would look at needs to consider that currently, regions of the country elect their MP not necessarily because it's the best person, but because of the party.
My region, for example, NEVER votes Blue in Federal elections, because of the huge French population we have and they will NOT vote Conservative unless the liberal MP really fucks up. And since the current one is Dominic LeBlanc, it's pretty guaranteed we'll go Liberal next election (his reputation but moreso his FAMILY having the history they do, and of course, he's French). Making any inroads in this riding is next to impossible for anyone but Liberals. We've had CLOSE races, but only once have we ever had someone not Liberal.
Beauséjour (electoral district) - Wikipedia
And we're not the only riding like this.
So when there's situations like this, you are pretty fucked with how to make voting 'fair'.
The reason Toronto has 24 seats (this election) is because it has more people. They should have more MPs than rural Alberta with only 1 riding with 1/24 of the population density. Otherwise too much will be decided by the rural people. They would get more vote.
By the same token, if you did give a more weighted vote to the remote area, why would people with no skin in the game be deciding on things they also have little understanding of? You can't move away from 1 person, 1 vote. But you can change how the vote is counted. Proportional representation is one solution. EEE senate is another. Moving some decisions to the provincial level is another.
Polls are weighted. There was no magic turn of fortune for the Liberals.(YouTube & Pierre Poilievre 200 IQ Climate Change Solution)
It’s only day 3 or so of this campaign, so it’s not too late for Carney to jump on this as part of “his” policy platform. Meanwhile, the best indicator of future performance is past practice, it’s absurd to argue that our current Liberal government is in the best position to take on U.S. President Donald Trump in a tariff war…but look at the scoreboard?
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In reality, the Liberals in power pursued reckless policies they were warned would undermine our economy, yet they implemented them anyway.
That led directly to our current predicament of trying to counter Trump on tariffs while our economy is damaged and weak.
But don’t take our word for it — that’s what their current leader, Mark Carney, said.
During the English language Liberal leadership debate on Feb. 25, Carney explained Canada’s predicament in dealing with Trump today.
“I want to be clear about the quote ‘strength’ of our economy,” he said.
“Our economy over the last five years has been driven by a big increase in the labour force, which was largely because of a surge in immigration that is now trying to be controlled, and by government spending that grew over 9% year after year after year — twice the rate of growth of our economy.
Was Carney economically advising Trudeau over this period? Well…apparently, you bet your arse he was!! “So our economy was weak before we got to the point of these threats from President Trump.”
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Dramatically increasing immigration levels weakened Canada because it increased faster than economic growth, resulting in a decrease in inflation-adjusted gross domestic product (GDP) per person, a widely accepted measurement of a nation’s prosperity.
What happened was what the Liberal government was warned would happen in advance by its public servants. The cost of living spiked as did the price of housing and already beleaguered public services like health care became even worse, to the point where even then-prime minister Justin Trudeau had to admit his blunder.
Meanwhile, reckless government spending, far outpacing the growth rate of the Canadian economy during the Liberals’ years in power, further weakened our ability to take on Trump now.
It’s true that Carney correctly diagnosed the problem in hindsight, Monday morning quarterback style. Most people here on this thread right now could’ve told you this though, years ago, with the time and date stamped posts in these threads to back up what they’re saying. Seriously!!
But the idea that as a neophyte politician and prime minister, he’s going to fix this — while being led around by the nose by the same advisers to Trudeau who helped to create this mess, along with the same cabinet ministers who implemented it — is absurd.
EDITORIAL: Carney admits Liberals weakened our economy — Toronto Sun
Since the best indicator of future performance is past practice, it’s absurd to argue that our current Liberal government is in the best position to take on U.S. President Donald Trump in a tariff war. In reality, the Liberals in power pursued reckless policies they were warned would undermine...apple.news
