Pierre Poilievre

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The Lazarus-like revival suggests the Liberals have gained 10 points of support since Ipsos’s last poll in January. For a brief moment before Justin Trudeau resigned, it looked as if they were on track to lose official party status after the next election; now it’s the NDP that is facing that prospect.

It is an unprecedented shift in public opinion and the pressing question is: What are Poilievre’s Conservatives going to do about it to shift the momentum back?

The answer, according to senior Conservatives, is… not much.

The logic is that Poilievre still holds two aces: namely, fatigue with the Liberal party after nearly 10 years in power; and the sense among roughly eight in 10 Canadians that it is time for a change of government.
Even though he was an adviser to the Trudeau government, Carney can plausibly disavow, and even impugn, its record in office.

The U.S. president’s intimidation is now the most pressing issue for most Canadian voters and Carney is not only presenting himself as best-positioned to deal with it but is portraying Poilievre as being unfit for the purpose.

He said the Conservative leader “worships” (?) Trump and is “the wrong guy at the worst time.”

During the debate, Carney blasted Poilievre’s decision to refuse security clearance as “the kind of irresponsibility, at a time when our country is under threat, that we cannot afford.”

The Conservatives appear to have been handed a gift in the form of a letter Carney wrote as chair of Brookfield Asset Management, which they say proves the Liberal leadership candidate supported moving the investment firm’s headquarters to New York from Toronto. Whoopsies.
 

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The Lazarus-like revival suggests the Liberals have gained 10 points of support since Ipsos’s last poll in January. For a brief moment before Justin Trudeau resigned, it looked as if they were on track to lose official party status after the next election; now it’s the NDP that is facing that prospect.

It is an unprecedented shift in public opinion and the pressing question is: What are Poilievre’s Conservatives going to do about it to shift the momentum back?

The answer, according to senior Conservatives, is… not much.

The logic is that Poilievre still holds two aces: namely, fatigue with the Liberal party after nearly 10 years in power; and the sense among roughly eight in 10 Canadians that it is time for a change of government.
Even though he was an adviser to the Trudeau government, Carney can plausibly disavow, and even impugn, its record in office.

The U.S. president’s intimidation is now the most pressing issue for most Canadian voters and Carney is not only presenting himself as best-positioned to deal with it but is portraying Poilievre as being unfit for the purpose.

He said the Conservative leader “worships” (?) Trump and is “the wrong guy at the worst time.”

During the debate, Carney blasted Poilievre’s decision to refuse security clearance as “the kind of irresponsibility, at a time when our country is under threat, that we cannot afford.”

The Conservatives appear to have been handed a gift in the form of a letter Carney wrote as chair of Brookfield Asset Management, which they say proves the Liberal leadership candidate supported moving the investment firm’s headquarters to New York from Toronto. Whoopsies.
The media have been playing up Carney big time for months as if he the second coming , which of course he is , the second coming of Justin . As soon as this shit show liberal corornation is out of the way Canadians will see he is an empty suit and will end up just like Ignatieff on a plane back to London .
 

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The media have been playing up Carney big time for months as if he the second coming , which of course he is , the second coming of Justin . As soon as this shit show liberal corornation is out of the way Canadians will see he is an empty suit and will end up just like Ignatieff on a plane back to London .
Especially once he has to start taking unscripted questions, from the media or parliament, assuming that’s allowed to happen.
 
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The media have been playing up Carney big time for months as if he the second coming , which of course he is , the second coming of Justin . As soon as this shit show liberal corornation is out of the way Canadians will see he is an empty suit and will end up just like Ignatieff on a plane back to London .
Or begs Trump for a job.
 

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Especially once he has to start taking unscripted questions, from the media or parliament, assuming that’s allowed to happen.
Doesn’t matter what the question, the answers are scripted, and only chosen “journalists “ are permitted to in the room.
 

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Parliament would be interesting at this point. Questions across the floor that he could answer or not answer… but I would love to see that happen before an election takes place.
He can’t answer any questions. The closest he can get to parliament is the visitors gallery. Visitors are not permitted to speak.
 

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He can’t answer any questions. The closest he can get to parliament is the visitors gallery. Visitors are not permitted to speak.
Questions can sure be asked of him though in Parliament, assuming Parliament gets to actually happen….& he could have other ministers (MP’s of the Liberal stripe) answer for him as he’s up there with his opera glasses.
 
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The media is gargling Carney's balls and trying to make it seem like the liberals are back in the hunt.

They're afraid.

Afraid of... what exactly?


Carney is as 'meh' a leader as anyone can be.

But at least he's not gargling the balls of Orange Palpatine and his co-President The Musk Nazi in the US and trying to be Trump-Lite.
 
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Afraid of... what exactly?


Carney is as 'meh' a leader as anyone can be.

But at least he's not gargling the balls of Orange Palpatine and his co-President The Musk Nazi in the US and trying to be Trump-Lite.
LOL!

Well, "meh" shouldn't be the benchmark we're starting at.
 
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Afraid of... what exactly?


Carney is as 'meh' a leader as anyone can be.

But at least he's not gargling the balls of Orange Palpatine and his co-President The Musk Nazi in the US and trying to be Trump-Lite.
TDS , help is available . Boogie men are not real .
 
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Afraid of... what exactly?


Carney is as 'meh' a leader as anyone can be.

But at least he's not gargling the balls of Orange Palpatine and his co-President The Musk Nazi in the US and trying to be Trump-Lite.
No, he just wants to invoke the Emergencies Act over a tariff tiff. Much fucking better, right? You really think the suspension of your basic civil rights is an appropriate response to tariffs? Fucking guy isn't even the Liberal leader yet and he's already telling us he wants to be a fucking dictator. And the Liberal numbers are actually going UP in the polls. Some Canadians really are fucking stupid. "Duhhh I hate Trump so much I wanna have my rights suspended. A derp-a derp".
 
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No, he just wants to invoke the Emergencies Act over a tariff tiff.

I mean, you'd think if he was going to do something THAT stupid it'd be all over every news place and not just right leaning holes in the internet. There'd be SOMETHING in the middle ground sites about it but... nada.

That said, I DID see a couple of clips when I looked it up and seems even HE isn't sure what he'd do since he told BC he'd "use all of the powers of the Federal Government, including the Emergency Powers of the Federal Government, to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy and take on the Americans."

Yet he told people in Quebec in answer to a question about imposing pipelines on Quebec or provinces: "I would never impose." "Never?" "Never." "Okay. So if a province says 'No, you're not putting any pipes through..." "Absolutely." "You don't impose it?" "Never in Quebec."

So yeah, which is it? And are the clips taken out of context? I certainly would have fucking questions about it.


Much fucking better, right?

Again, "THAT stupid".

You really think the suspension of your basic civil rights is an appropriate response to tariffs?

No.

Wanna know my appropriate response to tariffs with the US?

Fuck em.

Don't just do dollar for dollar, stack em to 100%. Everything. Because Trump said there's nothing they need from us, and he's shown he can't be trusted at all, nor will he keep his word. Trump is playing fucking games and why should we play too? Especially when he continues to threaten annexation? Oh, and no oil, no hydro/power... no more 'freebies' to the US, no "special considerations".

REALISTICALLY I know it can't be that way so no need of you to lose your shit over how I personally feel.


Fucking guy isn't even the Liberal leader yet and he's already telling us he wants to be a fucking dictator.

Oh FFS. There's no real proof of that, Jin.

And the Liberal numbers are actually going UP in the polls. Some Canadians really are fucking stupid. "Duhhh I hate Trump so much I wanna have my rights suspended. A derp-a derp".

Well, you ARE an example of those 'derp' kinds too.

Liberal numbers are going up for a LOT of reasons and it's not really got much to do with Carney at all. It DOES have everything to do with how Skippy P is a fucking one trick pony, how hated he is right now and how people are leaving the NDP because THEIR leader sucks. The Libs at least look like they give a shit (not that I agree with that but whatever).

You really aren't paying attention, just typically reacting.
 
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I mean, you'd think if he was going to do something THAT stupid it'd be all over every news place and not just right leaning holes in the internet. There'd be SOMETHING in the middle ground sites about it but... nada.
Video of him saying so was posted a week or two ago.

Stay tuned.
 
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