Pierre Poilievre

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Selling us out to a Marxist-Leninist shit hole is NOT "good" in any way shape or form. Especially if you're supposed to be a goddam conservative.
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe it's the Marxist-Leninist thing. There really are no Marxist-Leninist countries left in the world. Might as well say "trans paedophile." From you it's just a general hate/fear term. It means "scary monster" to you.
 

Jinentonix

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I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe it's the Marxist-Leninist thing. There really are no Marxist-Leninist countries left in the world.
Google "Marxist-Leninist" countries. First on the list: China. Technically the CCP's ideology today is "Xi Jinping Thought on Marxist-Leninism with Chinese Characteristics" or some such bullshit.
Might as well say "trans paedophile." From you it's just a general hate/fear term. It means "scary monster" to you.
Might as well educate yourself on the insidiousness of Chinese communism. And it ain't just in China, home fries. There are Chinese "pro-democracy" groups in the US and other Western nations that are actually CCP plants. Their job is to gather names and other information on actual pro-democracy Chinese people so the CCP can engage in a bit of rendition.

Now, let me explain the agreement Harper made with China using a hockey analogy. Team Canada can only play on a little patch of ice in China. Team Canada can't argue bad calls and has no recourse for financial loss due to the CPP changing new rules.
Team China on the other hand has the entire country of Canada to play in. Is allowed to argue bad calls and has recourse for financial loss if the Canadian govt changes the rules.

Probably the worst agreement since Neville Chamberlain "negotiated" peace with Hitler.
 

petros

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Yep, scary monster.

China is a rich, large country looking to extend its footprint and power by means overt and covert.

Well, THAT's never happened before!
China isnt as rich as you think. Bulk of the population is over 45 thanks to 1 child policy the upcoming generation if half the size. 20+% of them are unemployed. The real estate crash hit hard. China will have to ditch it racist ways and allow immigration.

With some serious buckling down the one trillion US owes China could be paid off. It takes away financial leverage from Beijing.
 

Jinentonix

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Yep, scary monster.

China is a rich, large country looking to extend its footprint and power by means overt and covert.

Well, THAT's never happened before!
It's not rich anymore. Xi squandered China's Western-built fortune on vanity projects and screwing over Western tech partners.
China can't even manufacture their own 7nm, or smaller, microchips.
All those high speed trains they built? Yeah, well since they fucked over Japan and Germany on the tech agreement China is unable to source or manufacture the wheels it needs to build more and maintain the current fleet it already has. Japan and Germany are the ONLY countries in the world capable of manufacturing wheels that are good enough for high speed rail.
Everything about China under Xi is fucking scammy. His BRI is just a debt trap for poor nations. They only ones it helps is China, leaving the target country in a position where it has to give up control of important infrastructure or land to China.
All the while it oppresses the fuck out of its own people, uses rape as a form of torture, engages in involuntary organ "donation" and has a province dedicated to slavery and genocide.
In Africa, Chinese businesses and companies don't hire locals, workers are shipped from China, live and work in appalling conditions and are treated as little more than wage slaves. Well at least their enslaving their own while in Africa so there's that, I guess.

There's two China's. There's the beautiful, happy, everyone gets along China that the CCP wants you to believe exists. Then there's the real China. They literally burn highly radioactive coal in at least one of their power plants.
When the dams are close to bursting at the seams they release a massive flood of water but don't tell downstream communities about it until AFTER they've been flooded by it.

If you want some insight into the real CCP's China, I recommend checking out 'China Observer' and 'China Uncensored' on Youtube.
 

petros

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It's not rich anymore. Xi squandered China's Western-built fortune on vanity projects and screwing over Western tech partners.
China can't even manufacture their own 7nm, or smaller, microchips.
All those high speed trains they built? Yeah, well since they fucked over Japan and Germany on the tech agreement China is unable to source or manufacture the wheels it needs to build more and maintain the current fleet it already has. Japan and Germany are the ONLY countries in the world capable of manufacturing wheels that are good enough for high speed rail.
Everything about China under Xi is fucking scammy. His BRI is just a debt trap for poor nations. They only ones it helps is China, leaving the target country in a position where it has to give up control of important infrastructure or land to China.
All the while it oppresses the fuck out of its own people, uses rape as a form of torture, engages in involuntary organ "donation" and has a province dedicated to slavery and genocide.
In Africa, Chinese businesses and companies don't hire locals, workers are shipped from China, live and work in appalling conditions and are treated as little more than wage slaves. Well at least their enslaving their own while in Africa so there's that, I guess.

There's two China's. There's the beautiful, happy, everyone gets along China that the CCP wants you to believe exists. Then there's the real China. They literally burn highly radioactive coal in at least one of their power plants.
When the dams are close to bursting at the seams they release a massive flood of water but don't tell downstream communities about it until AFTER they've been flooded by it.

If you want some insight into the real CCP's China, I recommend checking out 'China Observer' and 'China Uncensored' on Youtube.
BRI is China's own IMF type operation. Dirty AF.
 

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It's not rich anymore. Xi squandered China's Western-built fortune on vanity projects and screwing over Western tech partners.
China can't even manufacture their own 7nm, or smaller, microchips.
All those high speed trains they built? Yeah, well since they fucked over Japan and Germany on the tech agreement China is unable to source or manufacture the wheels it needs to build more and maintain the current fleet it already has. Japan and Germany are the ONLY countries in the world capable of manufacturing wheels that are good enough for high speed rail.
Everything about China under Xi is fucking scammy. His BRI is just a debt trap for poor nations. They only ones it helps is China, leaving the target country in a position where it has to give up control of important infrastructure or land to China.
All the while it oppresses the fuck out of its own people, uses rape as a form of torture, engages in involuntary organ "donation" and has a province dedicated to slavery and genocide.
In Africa, Chinese businesses and companies don't hire locals, workers are shipped from China, live and work in appalling conditions and are treated as little more than wage slaves. Well at least their enslaving their own while in Africa so there's that, I guess.

There's two China's. There's the beautiful, happy, everyone gets along China that the CCP wants you to believe exists. Then there's the real China. They literally burn highly radioactive coal in at least one of their power plants.
When the dams are close to bursting at the seams they release a massive flood of water but don't tell downstream communities about it until AFTER they've been flooded by it.

If you want some insight into the real CCP's China, I recommend checking out 'China Observer' and 'China Uncensored' on Youtube.

And you called me out for being "Racist" about China, when in reality it was all THIS that I abhor about them.
 

Serryah

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Poilievre has a great ad out about finding better trading partners and he found one. We share similar cultures and values with them. We have the same climate. We both even have English and French as official languages. One problem, there's a trade barrier that costs $5100/yr/Canadian. That country is....Canada.

I've been questioning for a couple of decades or so now about why the hell are we seeking free trade agreements with other countries when we don't even have free trade between our own provinces? See, it's shit like that that makes me feel like Canada is a less of an actual country and more a loose federation of very self-interested regions who act like the rest of the country doesn't matter, or even exist at all.

Honestly I hope that we do away with the trade barriers.

But the biggest issue will be the continuity without Federal oversight, which means the Provinces get together and... make agreements? Set up commissions to oversee it all?

It can be done; there was a guy from northern NB who sued over alcohol he brought over from Quebec and with public pressure things changed.

The public just has to keep up the pressure to do these changes.

(as an aside from the health care perspective, this would SERIOUSLY benefit nursing and other jobs if they could streamline all the qualifications to be one National standard. Then nurses could live and work anywhere without problems.)
 

Serryah

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Well, that's only because you threw the racism card at me first when I mentioned China and the Panama Canal. Get off your high uppity fuck horse and start taking some ownership of the bullshit you spew.

I told you why you got that racist card.

Not my issue if it fits, and you can't read.

But I also told you that I despise China's Government, not the people. Disliking a Government isn't racism.

You on the other hand using "Honk Kong" shows it's the people you don't like, so...
 

petros

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I told you why you got that racist card.

Not my issue if it fits, and you can't read.

But I also told you that I despise China's Government, not the people. Disliking a Government isn't racism.

You on the other hand using "Honk Kong" shows it's the people you don't like, so...
The people are just like the Govt. Racist as fuck.
 
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Jinentonix

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I told you why you got that racist card.
Yeah, because you can't tell the difference between a people and an ideology.
Not my issue if it fits, and you can't read.
I can read. You're just a fucking moron with massive comprehension issues..
But I also told you that I despise China's Government, not the people. Disliking a Government isn't racism.
Except when I do it apparently, ya fucking stunned twat.
You on the other hand using "Honk Kong" shows it's the people you don't like, so...
Oh fuck...right...off. Hong Kong is now a province within the CCP's China under complete CCP control. Go learn some geo-politics for fuck sakes. Any China-based business that operates out of country is under strict CCP control.
I'm also pro-Taiwan independence and have stated such a few times in this forum but that's because I'm soooo fucking racist towards Chinese people, right?
Products made in Taiwan tend to be of good to high quality. I'll buy Taiwanese goods anytime but that's only because I don't like Chinese people, right?

Troll.