Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
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Count me in too. JonB2004 may have crossed the line a bit with the personal insults but he's dead on with the Karlin "bombs".Hank C said:I have to side with JonB'04 and his assessment of Karlins post.
Chretien was a laugh-a-minute prime minister, damn savvy politician (I particularily liked his third majority his timing was impeccable) I even voted for the guy twice.
Unless a politician's beliefs lead him to say something like "god says we must kill gays" or "allah wants me to nuke Quebec" his personal beliefs are his. I don't judge based on beliefs but on performance. Pete McKay is doing alright regardless of being ...(gasp!) christian.
Unless a politician's beliefs lead him to say something like "god says we must kill gays" or "allah wants me to nuke Quebec" his personal beliefs are his. I don't judge based on beliefs but on performance. Pete McKay is doing alright regardless of being ...(gasp!) christian.
Mckay is a frickin' retard.
First, his betrayal to Orchard.
Second, his lame "terrorism" rhetoric (plagerizing Bush).
Third, his stripping Palestinian farmers, teachers and children of Canadian aid.
Fourth, his whiny Israeli stance.
Therefore, Mckay is a frickin' retard, and I would love for that guy to come visit Sarnia, Ontario so I can tell him to his face, since he doesn't like to respond to my kind emails.
First, his betrayal to Orchard.
Second, his lame "terrorism" rhetoric (plagerizing Bush).
Third, his stripping Palestinian farmers, teachers and children of Canadian aid.
Fourth, his whiny Israeli stance.
Therefore, Mckay is a frickin' retard, and I would love for that guy to come visit Sarnia, Ontario so I can tell him to his face, since he doesn't like to respond to my kind emails.
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
One at a time.
1. I agree there was some idiocy in this event. McKay panicked when he had everything sewn up, and made a deal with Orchard that was the absolute epitome of stupidity.......unless you wanted Canada to become a corrupt Liberal one-party state a'la Mexico from 1920 to about 2000.
2. Terrorism exists, or have you been asleep for the last 5 years.....no 45 years?
3. What a shame. Canada will no longer be paying for the head terrorists' villas, or filling their numbered bank accounts, or paying the families of suicide bombers, or paying for textbooks in which the maps don't show Israel, or buying posters for the school that idolize murderers............I'm heartbroken.
4. Whiny? We were whiny when we spent so much time walking the neutrality line that we lost the ability not only to recognize the threat of those that hate our way of life, but the ability to discern evil.
Personally, I think in a battle of wits with Mr. McKay, you are unarmed.
Colpy said:
One word to you Colpy: Naive
By the way, is it illegal to bitch-slap a Foreign Minister nowadays? I miss the time when if you didn't agree with the current government, you can go kick their ass out of office. And, since the Conservatives only recieved 1/3 of Canada's total vote, I think, we the people could bitch-slap the Cons (Conservatives) pretty good.
Funny, I never heard anyone complaining when the Liberals held a MAJORITY with considerably less than 40% of the vote.
Hang around Buddy. You'll find out exactly how un-naive I am.
Hang around Buddy. You'll find out exactly how un-naive I am.
Re: RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
Hey, I'm not Liberal. I protested against them too. I think Canadian democracy is a croc of shit. We, as Canadians, live with a sense of beauty for democracy -- always supporting it but not really knowing why. We don't live in a democracy Colpy. First-past-the-post is anything but. A system without proportional representation also does not allow democracy to thrive. So there, you finally heard someone complaining about the Liberal's so-called democracy. If you weren't so naive, you could have deduced that people were complaining about the Liberal majority of 40%. Maybe this a stepping-stone of informing you one day at a time....Buddy.
Colpy said:
Hey, I'm not Liberal. I protested against them too. I think Canadian democracy is a croc of shit. We, as Canadians, live with a sense of beauty for democracy -- always supporting it but not really knowing why. We don't live in a democracy Colpy. First-past-the-post is anything but. A system without proportional representation also does not allow democracy to thrive. So there, you finally heard someone complaining about the Liberal's so-called democracy. If you weren't so naive, you could have deduced that people were complaining about the Liberal majority of 40%. Maybe this a stepping-stone of informing you one day at a time....Buddy.
The canadian government cannot fund hamas because it is a terrorist organization and it is illegal under canadian law to fund a terrorist organization. It's not McKay's fault the palestinians elected a terrorist group.
Re: RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
They are democratically elected. They have a right to self-determination. Therefore, they are not a terrorist state. U.S. has used various terrorist methods of extracting Castro from power. Would you consider America terrorists? If not, don't be a hypocrite. I hate hypocrites.
iARTthere4iam said:
They are democratically elected. They have a right to self-determination. Therefore, they are not a terrorist state. U.S. has used various terrorist methods of extracting Castro from power. Would you consider America terrorists? If not, don't be a hypocrite. I hate hypocrites.
Re: RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
Adolph Hitler was democratically elected......with 44% of the vote.
That made him the bona fide representative of the German people.
Which is why they ALL paid the price and were bombed into the stone age. Likewise with Hamas.
Likewise with Hezbollah, which enjoys widespread support in south Lebanon, and has members in the Lebanese parliament.
Collective punishment is perfectly fair when there is collective guilt.
And there's the hard edge of it.
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Adolph Hitler was democratically elected......with 44% of the vote.
That made him the bona fide representative of the German people.
Which is why they ALL paid the price and were bombed into the stone age. Likewise with Hamas.
Likewise with Hezbollah, which enjoys widespread support in south Lebanon, and has members in the Lebanese parliament.
Collective punishment is perfectly fair when there is collective guilt.
And there's the hard edge of it.
Re: RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
Actually, Hitler was appointed, so no he wasn't the bona fide representative of the German people. Just ask members of his council who tried to assassinate him.
Colpy said:
Actually, Hitler was appointed, so no he wasn't the bona fide representative of the German people. Just ask members of his council who tried to assassinate him.
Re: RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
He was apopointed Chancellor by the President as he controled the largest party in the Reichstag.........that means he was Germany's man.
And yes, there were assasination attempts, but a close look reveals that there was practically no resistence to Nazi rule in Germany.
Little resistence means tacit approval.
Nations are ALWAYS responsible for the actions of those that lead.
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
He was apopointed Chancellor by the President as he controled the largest party in the Reichstag.........that means he was Germany's man.
And yes, there were assasination attempts, but a close look reveals that there was practically no resistence to Nazi rule in Germany.
Little resistence means tacit approval.
Nations are ALWAYS responsible for the actions of those that lead.
Re: RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn Minister
Colpy, that is silly. As for resistance in Germany, many did what they could to eliminate Hitler all the while protecting themselves from the Nazis. Also, Hitler wooed the Germans with threats of Communism and terrorism just like Bushy (who was also appointed by the way). And, nations are not responsibel for the actions of those that lead. I never voted for Harper and he doesn't rule on behalf of me. He is the antithesis of my beliefs. That is just plain stupid to say that I am responsible for Harper's actions -- everyone here with a brain would agree.
Colpy said:
Colpy, that is silly. As for resistance in Germany, many did what they could to eliminate Hitler all the while protecting themselves from the Nazis. Also, Hitler wooed the Germans with threats of Communism and terrorism just like Bushy (who was also appointed by the way). And, nations are not responsibel for the actions of those that lead. I never voted for Harper and he doesn't rule on behalf of me. He is the antithesis of my beliefs. That is just plain stupid to say that I am responsible for Harper's actions -- everyone here with a brain would agree.
If the Canadian government does something, like sign an international agreement, the citizens are required to fulfill these obligations. The citizens have the opportunity to remove the government but the government signs on behalf of the citizens. If a new government changes or opts out of said agreement it is still acting on behalf of and in the name of the citizens and by the same authority. Isn't this the same thing? thing.
RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn
Just foir clarification's sake- does this mean that the "terror attacks" of 9/11 were somewhat justified??? That would seem to be the case, and the US getting bombed into the stone age would also be justified, with regards to their current geo-criminal actions, no??
RE: Peter McKay , Foriegn
Seems to me we have a Liberal who has to tkae Good points about a person and try and make them seem scary. Since when was Being a Christian so bad? I find it really pathetic that the only way the liberals can try and knock someone, is by their personal belifs. OHHHH CRAP HE IS A CONSERVITVE....AND HE THINKS JESUS IS HIS SAVIOR. So fucking what, he does his job, and so far he does it well. The fact that your trying to pin him as an Anti-Arab Christian holds no truth. Muck Raker you aint.
Seems to me we have a Liberal who has to tkae Good points about a person and try and make them seem scary. Since when was Being a Christian so bad? I find it really pathetic that the only way the liberals can try and knock someone, is by their personal belifs. OHHHH CRAP HE IS A CONSERVITVE....AND HE THINKS JESUS IS HIS SAVIOR. So fucking what, he does his job, and so far he does it well. The fact that your trying to pin him as an Anti-Arab Christian holds no truth. Muck Raker you aint.