Pentagon Says There Will Be A Draft

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ElPolaco

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There has been mandatory selective service registration since Carter reintroduced it back in 79. At many colleges males or not allowed to enroll unless they show proof that they registered for the draft. What this does is make sure less people get lost through the cracks. Anytime I'm in the post office at night and there's no one around, I usually throw all the registration forms in the trash (doing my small part). So, just in case a young chap patronizes one of those post offices, he can be registered through the dept. of motor vehicles.
 
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PoisonPete2

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voluntary induction has been seriously sliding lately. This thread may get busy again in September as Bush realizes that he's caught in a quagmire in Iraq. In Afganastan the government is financed by the opium earnings of the War Lords. Not much democracy there. Now Bush is further destablizing Cashmir by providing attack aircraft to the military dictatorship in Pakistan. He is creating a few serious conflicts smart Americans may not want to die in.
 
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no1important

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They are sure desperate. If enlistment is still low by fall the draft will be back. There really is no other option. Extended tours, heavily using reserve and using retired personnel. The draft really is the only logical step left.
 
Toro

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Reverend Blair said:
But they WERE there.
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So were we. What the hell is wrong with you?

You can't possibly believe this. Before there was talk of the invasion, oil was hovering under $30, now it has doubled in price over the past 3 or 4 years.
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How much would have have risen if Iraqi oil weren't available? The only possib;e answer is "MORE".

That is completely inaccurate. Speculators hold oil and gold as a hedge against the US dollar. Higher oil prices mean a lower US dollar.
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Iraq had switched to the Euro and was encouraging other oil-producing nations to do the same. They were pushing for OPEC to make the official changeover, giving a lot of impetus to Chavez's push, which would have made the Euro the defacto currency of the planet. Chavez had a lot of pull within OPEC, since he pretty much single handedly resurrected it. Iraq, because of it's oil resources, represented the power to drive Opec to the Euro.

The US knew it couldn't maintain the sanctions for much longer...the entire world was complaining about them because they weren't working.

Don't piss around, crit...some of us are old enough that we taught our dogs that "Boutros Boutros Ghali" meant milkbone. Those dogs have a far better grasp of the situation than you are exhibiting.
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Forget the dogs, the pigeons are singing. There's a reason why us landfill-dwelling, pig-humpers are so successful at money-sucking. We look for the pigeons to fleece.

Reverend Blair said:
Oil is cheaper than it would have been if Iraq hadn't been invaded.
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Iraq was producing about 1.6 MM bbl/d before the invasion. Officially, Iraq now produces about 1.4 MM. Even if you believe that figure, that extra 200,000 barrells lost does not double the price of oil. But the production figures are phony because all, or almost all, OPEC countries bust their quota. In fact, Iraq is pumping closer to 1.6-2 MM bbl/d. And the price wasn't going to go up if the US hadn't invaded because there's no way Hussein would have stopped producing. There was supposed to be an embargo on Iraqi oil, remember? What a good job it did of keeping oil off the market. The lifeblood of Hussein's regime was oil revenues.

Venezuela produces about 2-3 MM, depending on who you want to believe. OPEC produces about 30 MM while the world produces about 83 MM. Between the two countries, the two produced no more than 15% of all OPEC production. Adjusting for the technical capacity available since Chavez has driven so many away from PDVSA, Venezuela has been producing flat-out. Its production, like Iraq's over the last 5-10 years, has been falling, not rising. To say that Chavez single-handedly revised OPEC is not credible.

Of course Iraq was pushing for an official change-over to the Euro - why would you want to hold the currency of your enemy? - but the original idea came from Saudi Arabia when the dollar price of crude began to skyrocket but the Euro price did not. Since then, the Euro price of oil has risen as well, so that idea has gone away.

The Euro as a defacto global currency? Dollars at central banks account for 65% of global reserves, yet the US economy accounts for 40% of global production. There's a reason why - the US is the deepest, most liquid, most dynamic modern economy in the world. The European economies are sclerotic because of all the policies you Lefties hold so dear. There's no way the world will replace the dollar with the Euro. And the defeat of the EU constitution by the French and Dutch only deepens the concern about the Euro. Now I think investors certainly should be diversifying away from dollars into other currencies - particularly countries that produce basic materials such as Canada and Australia - as well as gold, but those reasons have nothing to do with politics.

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Oil is cheaper than it would have been if Iraq hadn't been invaded. It also serves to prop up the failing US dollar.
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This is just flat out wrong. A high price of oil is bad for the dollar, not good because more dollars are flowing out of the country to pay for a barrell of oil.
 
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Derry McKinney said:
What's that got to do with the draft, Toro?
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Nothing. It was posted earlier in this thread. Just making sure the misinformation is answered.

So back to the draft discussion then.
 
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Derry McKinney

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So you are ttrying to draw things away from discussions you don't like. You are attacking people who aren't here to defend themselves to do so. you aren't even making valid points while doing it. Typical.
 
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Reverend Blair

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Who's not here to defend themselves, Derry?

I don't really have to defend myself against Toro, of course. He's just here to raise crap...another worthless Republican spinner who'd whore out his own daughter if he thought he could make enough money to by Georgie a gram or two of cocaine.
 
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