Israel doesnt want peace, it will means the end of their dream, look at what they have done to the palestinians in the last 50 years, and it is clear, they want to get rid of them by any means,so far they have done a pretty good job.
Peace Breaks Out in the Middle East
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Israel doesnt want peace, it will means the end of their dream, look at what they have done to the palestinians in the last 50 years, and it is clear, they want to get rid of them by any means,so far they have done a pretty good job.
170,000 Arabs in Israel after the war in 1948, have turned into 1.3 million today.
711,000 Palestinian refugees in 1948, has turned into somewhere between 2.5 and 4 million today.
Personally, I don't think Israel is doing a great job of "getting rid" of them.
Exactly, don't you find something wrong with this??? nearly 4 millions of refugee?,look at the destruction done in palestine, from every point of view it is a disaster, the oppresssion of the palestinians is something we havent seen since the great wars. most of the refugee can't even go back to their land of their ancester( and i mean their direct ancester, not their 2000 years old of supposed ancester, i guess you know what i mean), constant attacks on palestinians citys, denying their basic human rights on a daily basis to keep a culture of hatred to justified their policy, is yes israel has done a pretty good job of getting rid of them.Look at what israel has taken from what the united nation gave initially to them, it is a outrageous.
WTF does that have to do with issuing a statement of breaking a CEASEFIRE? Does someone have to die to make it wrong?
Whether or not anyone is killed doesn't matter. The missiles were a ceasefire violation.
The best information I can find about this was the militants that fired them thought Israel had broke the ceasefire when the IOF attacked a home in the West Bank. The original Palestinian ceasefire offer which included the West bank was rejected by Israel. Only when the Palestinians agreed that Israel could keep killing Palestinians in the West Bank, did Israel finally agree to stop killing Palestinians in Gaza in exchange for a halt in missile attacks from Gaza. Its in a link in one of my previous posts in this string.
Also here:
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12813
Apparently the militants that violated the ceasefire were unaware of that condition. They thought a ceasefire meant all Israeli attacks against Palestinians.
It would be pretty bad if the Israeli government used this minor violation as an excuse to renew the violence, but not a surprise. The Israeli government doesn't want a ceasefire. They would rather keep kicking Palestinian arses until Palestine has been wiped off the map and Israel is a pure Jewish state.
Israel initially rejected Palestinian offers for a ceasefire but finally relented under growing growing international pressure to reduce the level of violence.
Palestinians have been pushing for a ceasefire because they suffer chronic shortages of basic necessities like food and water.
If you want to know what its like in Gaza here are is a first hand account by Irish journalists:
The best information I can find about this was the militants that fired them thought Israel had broke the ceasefire when the IOF attacked a home in the West Bank. The original Palestinian ceasefire offer which included the West bank was rejected by Israel. Only when the Palestinians agreed that Israel could keep killing Palestinians in the West Bank, did Israel finally agree to stop killing Palestinians in Gaza in exchange for a halt in missile attacks from Gaza. Its in a link in one of my previous posts in this string.
Also here:
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12813
Apparently the militants that violated the ceasefire were unaware of that condition. They thought a ceasefire meant all Israeli attacks against Palestinians.
It would be pretty bad if the Israeli government used this minor violation as an excuse to renew the violence, but not a surprise. The Israeli government doesn't want a ceasefire. They would rather keep kicking Palestinian arses until Palestine has been wiped off the map and Israel is a pure Jewish state.
Israel initially rejected Palestinian offers for a ceasefire but finally relented under growing growing international pressure to reduce the level of violence.
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Palestinians have been pushing for a ceasefire because they suffer chronic shortages of basic necessities like food and water.
If you want to know what its like in Gaza here are is a first hand account by Irish journalists:
1) Hamas organized the current and previous ceasefire. Israel broke the last ceasefire first with a failed assassination attempt. The dozen rockets Israel's attack helicopter fired into a Palestinian crowd in direct violation of the terms of the "Roadmap to Peace" killed and wounded dozens of innocent bystanders. (see my post previous page)
For 18 months, Hamas maintained a unilateral ceasefire. (I have already posted numerous sources to back this up.) During that time, two other militant groups outside of Hamas control waged war with Israel. Israel knows the difference between Palestinian militant groups. While our news demonized Hamas, they never fired a single rocket or dispatched a single suicide bomber. Meanwhile Israel abducted and assassinated Hamas leaders, killed hundreds of innocent bystanders.
Our leaders not only failed to acknowledge Hamas's unilateral ceasefire, they ignored Israeli atrocities against Palestinians and cut food and medical aid to ordinary Palestinians.
2) Hamas has offered many times to negotiate directly with Israel. Hamas has offered longterm peace in return for 1967 boundaries. Israel not Hamas refuses to talk. Israel and the US conspire to overthrow Palestine's democratically elected leaders.
3) Gaza was a strategic retreat. With the settlers out of the way, soldiers freed from guard duty could carry out strikes and assassinations in Gaza. Meanwhile the Israel's propaganda machine portrays Israel's escalation as a compromise.
4) The spark which lit the current cycle of violence was Sharon's not so subtle suggestion that if he was PM, he would tear down Islam's third most holy site to build a Jewish Temple.
After nearly 9 months increasing violence Israel bombed Palestinians. Palestinians bombed Israelis in response. The facts prove Israel led each escalation of violence.Source: BBC
Al-Aqsa Intifada timeline
The second Palestinian intifada or uprising broke out at the end of September 2000 and is named after the Jerusalem mosque complex where the violence began.
Frustrations that years of the negotiation had failed to deliver a Palestinian state were intensified by the collapse of the Camp David summit in July 2000.
Ariel Sharon, then the leader of Israel's opposition, paid a visit to the site in East Jerusalem known to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif, and to Jews as Temple Mount, which houses the al-Aqsa mosque - and frustration boiled over into violence.
The timeline below highlights the key events.
2000
Durrah was one of eight Palestinian children killed in the first three days
28 September: Ariel Sharon's visit to the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount - against the background of the failure of the peace process - provides one of the sparks that ignites a cycle of violence.
30 September: In one of the enduring images of the conflict 12-year-old Muhammad Durrah is killed during a gunbattle between Israeli troops and Palestinians in the Gaza strip, kindling Palestinian anger about the growing number of children killed by Israeli forces. The army initially apologises, but later casts doubt on whether its forces killed the boy.
17 October: The Sharm al-Sheikh agreement, brokered by President Clinton, aims to end the upsurge in violence. It breaks down almost immediately.
2001
6 February: Ariel Sharon elected prime minister of Israel.
Israeli police examine the scene of a Haifa suicide bombing
18 May: Israel launches F-16 warplanes against Palestinian targets in Gaza for the first time. 1 June: Suicide bomb attack on a disco in Tel Aviv leaves 21 people dead and more than 60 others injured. Islamic Jihad says it carried out the attack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3677206.stm
Galloway is hilarious. He's like a bulldog. He can't be intimidated, outshouted, bamboozled or shutup.
The Chomsky clip points out how our news doesn't report all the facts, not an attempt to reveal all facts. The 52 minute British documentary about Israel/Palestine did that:
"Injustice in the Holy Land"
Journalists describe how our news distorts information about Israel/Palestine:
Entertaining interview:
George Galloway - Hizbollah Is Not A Terrorist Organization
52 minute British documentary about Israel/Palestine:
"Injustice in the Holy Land"
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History repeats itself and when you are dealing with Islamist Terror Organizations they follow Muhammad's teachings that deciet and lies are okay, in fact Muhammad's little story tells a tale about how he and ALLAH signed a treaty simply to lie to the people so they could get the advantage and ambush them, murdering and enslaving the people of a peaceful community. With this Scriptural Approval of Deception, it is a small wonder that History keeps repeating itself and ceasefires are routinely broken by the Terrorist Organizations that have taken over these boardering countries of Israel.
Now today ---within a week of a truce this has happened-
Just before this Terrorist Missle was launched, Israel had warned that it would not just sit by and allow the bombing to continue...since the Palestine's can't seem to even keep their word about a truce so that peace talks can begin, there is simply no restrait...
This is a historical problem, The Hezzbollah and Hama's terrorist organizations just cannot stop it, even for a moment, they have no self control.
They are clearly not interested in peace, and certainly can not be trusted to keep a promise for even a short period of time.
Now today ---within a week of a truce this has happened-
Just before this Terrorist Missle was launched, Israel had warned that it would not just sit by and allow the bombing to continue...since the Palestine's can't seem to even keep their word about a truce so that peace talks can begin, there is simply no restrait...
This is a historical problem, The Hezzbollah and Hama's terrorist organizations just cannot stop it, even for a moment, they have no self control.
They are clearly not interested in peace, and certainly can not be trusted to keep a promise for even a short period of time.
Palestinians have violated the ceasefire. Looks like none of the militant group leaders can stop individuals from acting individually. Back to the war....