Patrick Kane assaults cabbie

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The cabbie had a few 'drunk driving' problems in the last 7 or 8 years, and
hasn't had a licence for quite a long time.
I know that isn't connected to this offence, but the lawyers will tangle it all
up somehow. The cabbie can't drop charges, as they are criminal, but I'm
sure he would do that, if the cops would look the other way concerning his
own misadventures.
Yeah, it is getting interesting.
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lmao Does he even have a cabby license?
 

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It seems a little ironic, but I'll bet the cabbie is going to end up needing a lawyer worse than Kane and that's too bad...........Kane can afford a bushel of them, while the cabby is probably going to get what the state gives him. The cabby probably worked hard all his life so that guys like Kane can have all the privileges. I think justice would be served if Kane and his illustrious cousin spent a years worth of Saturdays and Sundays washing taxis and vacuuming them out...........probably a lot of puke on a Sunday morning.
 

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It seems a little ironic, but I'll bet the cabbie is going to end up needing a lawyer worse than Kane and that's too bad...........Kane can afford a bushel of them, while the cabby is probably going to get what the state gives him. The cabby probably worked hard all his life so that guys like Kane can have all the privileges. I think justice would be served if Kane and his illustrious cousin spent a years worth of Saturdays and Sundays washing taxis and vacuuming them out...........probably a lot of puke on a Sunday morning.

The thought of the smell of puke, makes me want to puke.
I don't have a clue what will happen, but I'm thinking, that it might just gradually get foggier and foggier, and thinner and thinner, till, after a
few explanations from lawyers and judges, they are found innocent, and
explanation is that, it was a big misunderstanding, and also cabbie has no
problems either, and we can make the story any way we want after that,
but we probably
will never know what 'actually' went on in that cab other than, the cabbie
was roughed up.
Don't know if either one of them had any prior run ins with the law, I'm
guessing, no.
Liquor probably had a lot to do with their behavior, (not an excuse), just
a fact, and the courts will do with that, what they want.
We don't even know if 'both' of them roughed up the cabbie, or one of them.
You know, there is a possibility that Patrick Kane did nothing, and that his
cousin did the punching, and even though we will think that it is a trumped
up story, it could be true.
If you visualize a cabby, in front seat, being punched by someone in back seat,
it seems that it would be difficult for two people to do the punching, wouldn't
they just be in each other's way, unless they took turns, I wonder.

If they are both squeaky clean, judge could be lenient with them.
There have been lots of cabbie attacks in vancouver over the years, by
no other than low life idiots, who don't make big money, because no stories
came from those attacks about who did it, like this one, so I don't really
find a difference because of 'money' made, people are people, and can act
like idiots irrespective of how much they make, or not.
It's just the reputation of the well known, that is at stake. And, in general
the hockey players take the high road, and have good reputations, and are
respected and show respect, but of course there are exceptions with everything.

That money thing seems to be others, who seem to resent how much they make,
I don't think it is relevent at all, but the media know how big the story will be,
so they love it, cause we are the bait, and we bite 'big time'.
 

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The thought of the smell of puke, makes me want to puke.
I don't have a clue what will happen, but I'm thinking, that it might just gradually get foggier and foggier, and thinner and thinner, till, after a
few explanations from lawyers and judges, they are found innocent, and
explanation is that, it was a big misunderstanding, and also cabbie has no
problems either, and we can make the story any way we want after that,
but we probably
will never know what 'actually' went on in that cab other than, the cabbie
was roughed up.
Don't know if either one of them had any prior run ins with the law, I'm
guessing, no.
Liquor probably had a lot to do with their behavior, (not an excuse), just
a fact, and the courts will do with that, what they want.
We don't even know if 'both' of them roughed up the cabbie, or one of them.
You know, there is a possibility that Patrick Kane did nothing, and that his
cousin did the punching, and even though we will think that it is a trumped
up story, it could be true.
If you visualize a cabby, in front seat, being punched by someone in back seat,
it seems that it would be difficult for two people to do the punching, wouldn't
they just be in each other's way, unless they took turns, I wonder.

If they are both squeaky clean, judge could be lenient with them.
There have been lots of cabbie attacks in vancouver over the years, by
no other than low life idiots, who don't make big money, because no stories
came from those attacks about who did it, like this one, so I don't really
find a difference because of 'money' made, people are people, and can act
like idiots irrespective of how much they make, or not.
It's just the reputation of the well known, that is at stake. And, in general
the hockey players take the high road, and have good reputations, and are
respected and show respect, but of course there are exceptions with everything.

That money thing seems to be others, who seem to resent how much they make,
I don't think it is relevent at all, but the media know how big the story will be,
so they love it, cause we are the bait, and we bite 'big time'.

Or another scenario is the judge and the prosecutor could both be Blackhawk fans and the thing gets thrown out. :lol:
 

talloola

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Or another scenario is the judge and the prosecutor could both be Blackhawk fans and the thing gets thrown out. :lol:

ha, yeah, I wonder how hard the blackhawks organization is working to smooth
this thing over, they haven't had a very good summer, lots of negative things
happening to them in the front office, now this, they must be pulling their hair
out.
 

talloola

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there goes his career, a little slap on the wrist and sorry, and hes free..

The biggest punishment he has had is, everyone knows, he is embarrassed, has
lost a lot of respectability, and will be teased by his fellow hockey players, all
over the NHL.
He has had to apologize publicly, and to the cabby privately. And, I'm sure there
was a nice fat brown envelope given the cabby too. The cabby wasn't seriously
injured, and i'm sure he is getting on with his life nicely too, quite a few dollars
richer, and probably having a good laugh with his friends and family about it.
Kane now has to move forward, learn a lesson, grow up, and like many many
young cocky guys like him, improve his behavior in public, which I'm sure he will.
I don't really know what people wanted from this situation, jail time? I don't
think so.

Because he is a well known figure, with a little more money than the average
20 year old. (he has not earned 1 mill per year yet, so those stories are not true)
he has had two seasons at about $700 thousand each.
The media spotlight is on him with his every move, we all satisfy the media by
reacting so excitedly, while all the punk 20 year olds, who do nothing but take
drugs, and hang out all night on some street, then mug someone, and steal their
money, and leave them in the gutter, 'do not get any attention at all, and
continue that behavior, and many of those punks are in and out of jail many
times.

Patrick Kane isn't that kind of person, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt,
and realize that he has been punished , and deserved it, now I wish him well, and hope he moves on and has a good career.

Again, it seems it's all about the 'money', people get real riled up when someone
who makes lots of money, does something that many others do, but they get
much more scrutiny, why? because they have more money than us, why is that.
 

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Patrick Kane didn't made a Million Dollars a year, but only & $700,000.00
per year for the last two years? That's all? Oh....well that justifies beating up
a cabby who's out trying to earn a living over twenty cents, and then robbing
the cabby of the entire fare....after all, after a long night of underage drinking,
two young men (one being a professional athlete) are going to be hungry &
that cab fare should buy them a couple of burgers....

There are a lot of subhuman gutter-rat thieves in the world, but not all of them
are celebrities that can be easily identified, or are earning more in the last two
years than their victims will earn in their entire lives. This assault & robbery was
not perpetrated by the poor and hungry, and that would explain the outrage
being displayed in this Thread and throughout society.

That money changed hands....I have no doubt...but the cabby is laughing it up with
his buddies about being beaten and robbed by two overprivelleged arseholes?
That I doubt very much even though money may very well have changed hands.

What did people expect from this situation? My guess would be justice. I don't
follow the NHL, and I don't begrudge anyone that can fairly get ahead in life using
their own wits & talent in a legal manner. Honestly, I'd never even heard of this
"Patrick Kane" before the Cabby was beaten & robbed, and I haven't heard
anything about him since outside of this Cabby being beaten & robbed.

If all of the other 20yr old subhuman gutter-rat thieves in the world could be easily
identified when they commit crimes, the public would be equally outraged with
them too. Thankfully most 20yr olds aren't like the 20yr olds that Talloola & I are
describing.
 
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The biggest punishment he has had is, everyone knows, he is embarrassed, has
lost a lot of respectability, and will be teased by his fellow hockey players, all
over the NHL.
He has had to apologize publicly, and to the cabby privately. And, I'm sure there
was a nice fat brown envelope given the cabby too. The cabby wasn't seriously
injured, and i'm sure he is getting on with his life nicely too, quite a few dollars
richer, and probably having a good laugh with his friends and family about it.
Kane now has to move forward, learn a lesson, grow up, and like many many
young cocky guys like him, improve his behavior in public, which I'm sure he will.
I don't really know what people wanted from this situation, jail time? I don't
think so.

Because he is a well known figure, with a little more money than the average
20 year old. (he has not earned 1 mill per year yet, so those stories are not true)
he has had two seasons at about $700 thousand each.
The media spotlight is on him with his every move, we all satisfy the media by
reacting so excitedly, while all the punk 20 year olds, who do nothing but take
drugs, and hang out all night on some street, then mug someone, and steal their
money, and leave them in the gutter, 'do not get any attention at all, and
continue that behavior, and many of those punks are in and out of jail many
times.

Patrick Kane isn't that kind of person, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt,
and realize that he has been punished , and deserved it, now I wish him well, and hope he moves on and has a good career.

Again, it seems it's all about the 'money', people get real riled up when someone
who makes lots of money, does something that many others do, but they get
much more scrutiny, why? because they have more money than us, why is that.

Would you say the same thing if he beat his wife or child the same way?

This was over 20 cents...TWENTY CENTS!!!!

The kid has serious problems but because he is a super star, he gets a slap on the wrist. Hopefully (although probably not) the NHL has been paying attention to the NFL and Patty will have repercussions within the league.
 

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He didn't beat his child, so that is not relevant, and he also didn't rob the cabbie,
that charge was dropped, although those who want to see him in the worst light
they can, will not notice that fact.
Asking me if I would say same if he beat his child, just shows that you want to
be as emotional as possible and make him look like a violent and vicious person.
He did a stupid and hurtful thing that night, both he and his cousin, the cabbie
was cut and bruised, not beaten into submission, there is a difference, he needed
attending at emergency, both for his cuts and bruises and to obtain evidence for
the situation, which is normal.
There was 'no' robbery, even the lawyer for the cabbie said that the story was
overblown, very early after the incident, and also the cabbie said that the
story was exaggerated,( but of course I'm sure you don't recall that, right?)
If you think he is such a big celebrity, why is it you had never heard of him.

It is too bad that 'ordinary' people like ourselves 'always' have to connect the money
to the person, either because they have 'none', or because they have 'much', but
it has nothing to do with the money, he behaved like a 20 year old, dumb guy,
who drank too much, and he and his cousin, on their journey home became
arrogant and ridiculous. I have seen drunk guys mis behave many times, as a child, and it is sickening. But it seems people do get a second chance to better
themselves and carry on.
He didn't beat a child, he didn't beat his wife, (has none anyway), or his mother,
didn't shoot anyone, didn't kill anyone, has had no previous arrests, but maybe
I am wrong, maybe they should lock him up and throw away the key, or tie
him to a post in the square, and everyone can hurl rocks at him.
Again it's always about the money, it seems regular people who work every day,
resent people who have worked all their young lives to attain enough talent to
become a professsional hockey player, or 'whatever', and because they make
the big bucks, there is a huge jealousy.
I have seen the work, and number of years it takes a child, then a teenager, then
a young adult to attain that staus of talent to be able to be noticed as a sports
figure, but many think they fell out of bed one day, and someone signed a big
cheque for them, and did them a big favour, not so.
I have a grandson who is trying his guts out to become a professional golfer, he
has worked so so hard since he was 8 yrs. old, when others were playing and
sitting watching tv, he was out practicing, and in tournaments, and practicing
and trying and trying to get better, maybe he will make it, maybe he won't,
most don't, but the work ethic is there, the clean living, no drugs, no smoking,
good grades, a scholarship to the u.s. university.
Save all of your trashing for the punks who do nothing, want everything for nothing, steal, kill, take drugs, worry their parents into their graves, and
take advantage of others over and over.
I hope Patrick Kane learns his lesson, and picks himself up, and becomes a better
person, and I'm sure he will, and continues on with his life, just as the cabbie
will, and in behind the scenes, I'll bet Kane is in touch with that cabbie from time
to time in the future, for positives reasons.
 

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He beat on a guy for twenty cents. He's got problems. He needs help, not sympathy.

...and no, he didn't behave "like a twenty year old" I don't personally know any twenty year olds that would beat on anybody over two dimes. It's no wonder that many celebrities act the way they do when they have so many people like you defending their boorish behavior.
 

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He beat on a guy for twenty cents. He's got problems. He needs help, not sympathy.

...and no, he didn't behave "like a twenty year old" I don't personally know any twenty year olds that would beat on anybody over two dimes. It's no wonder that many celebrities act the way they do when they have so many people like you defending their boorish behavior.

There are lots of 20 yr olds, and older, who, when drunk, behave horribly, I
have witnessed it, and one can read it in the paper each and every day. We are not talking about majority here, but many, and
also those who are drugged up. It happens many times, not a rare occasion.
I never defended their boorish behavior, it's amazing how you read something
and then make up your own description of the meaning. go back and read what
I said about their behavior, 'no sympathy there at all'.
You are stuck in your thinking, can only focus on one thing, and that is money.
And, speaking of money, we have not been told how much money he is giving
the cabbie, as I'm sure there is a big fine, if we want to focus on money we
might as well throw that one in there too.
As I tried to explain before, his behavior has nothing to do with money, only
to do with 'drinking' and 'arrogance', nothing differentthat any other young,
and sometimes 'not so young' guy who is out on the town, the cops have a very
busy night answering all the calls of 'boorish' behavior by many people and
groups.
It's nothing to do with being a celebrity, why is it that the regular a drunk who
behaves like that, can do the same thing. They don't think about their status
at the time.
"Oh yeah, I'm just a regular guy so I will be good".
" Oh yeah, I'm a celebrity so I will be arrogant." It is the failings of 'human'
behavior on occasion, with drinking attached, too bad, but that's the way it
is.
My question is this: Why is it that 'WE' put someone like him in a different
catagorie, just because he has more money that we do.
ENVY, and then we jump all over them when they do something wrong, because
of the money, we don't have it, they do.

It is just 'human' behavior. Simple. We are jealous of the celebrity because of
the bank account, and who gives them their bank account? WE DO, because
we enjoy 'whatever' it is they do, by going to see them perform, then we
trash them for making too much money, it is an ongoing saga, gets very boring,
because it's always the everyday worker who does the whining.
"Don't you ever behave like I do at times, or I will trash you over and over,
because you make more money than I do, so you must be perfect.

We all make our way somewhere in our lives, and everything that is done is
needed by someone else.
The cabbie needs the rider, the hockey player needs the fans, the bus driver
needs the riders, the garbage man needs our garbage, it's just life.

You make this story much worse than it is, you give the cabbie much more
injury than he had, which makes your story more interesting, because then
the hockey player will be hated more. We never did know the exact truth
about the details of the money exchanged, 'ONLY WHAT THE MEDIA SAID',
we were never given the conversation that took place between cabbie and
kane and cousin, we only dwelled on the .20 cents, because the media dwelled
on that, because that makes the story, so that was the headline, the media
know exactly how to push 'our' buttons.
 

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When you beat someone for $0.20, maybe you're are a moron. Even if the person you beat up doesn't have a drivers license, (not a crime BTW), you are still a moron who criminally assaulted another person. So not to ugly except for the felony assault.

Actually, driving without a valid driver's license is a crime.
 

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My question is this: Why is it that 'WE' put someone like him in a different
catagorie, just because he has more money that we do.

ENVY, and then we jump all over them when they do something wrong, because
of the money, we don't have it, they do.

It's not envy, it's the fact that as an NHL player he is a role model. That is why he is put in a different catagory.
 

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There are lots of 20 yr olds, and older, who, when drunk, behave horribly, I
have witnessed it, and one can read it in the paper each and every day. We are not talking about majority here, but many, and
also those who are drugged up. It happens many times, not a rare occasion.
I never defended their boorish behavior, it's amazing how you read something
and then make up your own description of the meaning.

Yes, you aren't defending their boorish behavior but you are defending Kane's. If Kane wasn't a celebrity (and a rich one at that) he wouldn't be able to buy his way out of this one.

You are stuck in your thinking, can only focus on one thing, and that is money.

Wrong. Money has nothing to do with it. Kane would still be an idiot if he was flat broke.

It's nothing to do with being a celebrity, why is it that the regular a drunk who behaves like that, can do the same thing. They don't think about their status at the time.

Of course it's about celebrity. Kane kept asking the cabbie "do you know who I am"

My question is this: Why is it that 'WE' put someone like him in a different catagorie, just because he has more money that we do.

"WE" don't do that. You do that. I think Kane should be treated like the common criminal that he is. You are the one making excuses for him.

It is just 'human' behavior.

No it's not. I, and I'm sure many other people have never had the urge to poke somebody. Even drunk, I have never wanted to fight people. If you turn into as asshole when you eat peanut butter, don't eat peanut butter. If you are a jerk when you drink, don't drink....unless you are around people that will make excuses for you.
Simple. We are jealous of the celebrity because of
the bank account, and who gives them their bank account? WE DO, because
we enjoy 'whatever' it is they do, by going to see them perform, then we
trash them ....

Who is this "we" you keep referring to?
We all make our way somewhere in our lives, and everything that is done is needed by someone else.The cabbie needs the rider, the hockey player needs the fans, the bus driver needs the riders, the garbage man needs our garbage, it's just life.

Has Unforgiven been sending you presents?

You make this story much worse than it is, you give the cabbie much more injury than he had, which makes your story more interesting, because then the hockey player will be hated more. We never did know the exact truth about the details of the money exchanged, 'ONLY WHAT THE MEDIA SAID',
we were never given the conversation that took place between cabbie and
kane and cousin, we only dwelled on the .20 cents, because the media dwelled
on that, because that makes the story, so that was the headline, the media
know exactly how to push 'our' buttons.

He pleaded guilty so obviously he believed the stories. The injuries to the cabbie are irrelevant. Assault charges are not graded based on how many stitches or broken bones the victim has. If you shoot somebody, the time you spend in jail does not depend on what part of a persons body you hit. It is based on the actions of the perpetrator. He assaulted an individual over twenty cents. You can make apologies and excuse all you want. It doesn't change what he did nor his need for help.
 

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Yes, you aren't defending their boorish behavior but you are defending Kane's. If Kane wasn't a celebrity (and a rich one at that) he wouldn't be able to buy his way out of this one.

Aha, 'rich', that thing about the money again, that is the core of this problem
with many in the general public, the envy of hockey players and 'such', who
make much more money than 'us', the average person on the street.


Wrong. Money has nothing to do with it. Kane would still be an idiot if he was flat broke.

That's right, but no one would have know what he did, or cared, it's because of
his financial status, that others rise up in horror, envy envy envy.
He was an idiot at the time, for his behavior, of course, I have said that in
the past, and yes, money has everything to do with it. He didn't buy his way
out of anything, I'm sure the cabbie and his lawyer were eager to settle the
charge with a hefty settlement,' if there was anything criminal,' they could
not have done that, it is in the hands of the courts then.



Of course it's about celebrity. Kane kept asking the cabbie "do you know who I am"

He asked the cabbie 'that', once, again you exaggerate to make the situation
look much worse than it was.


"WE" don't do that. You do that. I think Kane should be treated like the common criminal that he is. You are the one making excuses for him.

He was treated like a common criminal, he was charged, some charges were
dropped after investigation, there was no 'theft', so they were left with the
hefty fine. Even if it was a regular joe off the street, would have been the
same, unless there is 'no' money, then time would have been served, very
common proceedings.


No it's not. I, and I'm sure many other people have never had the urge to poke somebody. Even drunk, I have never wanted to fight people. If you turn into as asshole when you eat peanut butter, don't eat peanut butter. If you are a jerk when you drink, don't drink....unless you are around people that will make excuses for you.

Absolutely right, and hopefully he has learned that lesson now, his behavior
while out in the night, will be handled more maturely from now on, that is
the lesson he will learn. If he had of done such things more than once, then
he would have had much more problems with the courts, first offence.

Who is this "we" you keep referring to?

I'm just a regular person, probably same as you, that is the 'we', with exception
to those who disagree with me. I have some forgiveness in my heart, and I
also don't care how much money anyone makes, they are all 'just' human beings,
same as 'US'.

The hockey players are very good role models, but they're not perfect, they are
just humans, no different than you or I, and sometimes they show imperfections,
just like you and I. Everyone's son and daughter is probably a role model to
someone else, if not in the public, it within their own families, and when
any of us slip and fall in our behavior, we lose some respect from our families,
or whomever was looking to us as a 'good' person, we have to earn that respect
back, and so does he.

He never ever plead guilty to theft, and that charge was dropped, there was
no theft. The medical condition of the cabbie was very relevent, and had the
cabbie been seriously injured, the outcome would have been much different,
as criminal charges would have held up, and a trial would have happened.

He pleaded guilty so obviously he believed the stories. The injuries to the cabbie are irrelevant. Assault charges are not graded based on how many stitches or broken bones the victim has. If you shoot somebody, the time you spend in jail does not depend on what part of a persons body you hit. It is based on the actions of the perpetrator. He assaulted an individual over twenty cents. You can make apologies and excuse all you want. It doesn't change what he did nor his need for help

It doesn't make any difference to 'you'. We don't know how much difference
it made to the cabbie, and from the comments from the cabbie and his
lawyer, they were trying to smooth the whole situation over from the beginning.

I criticized Kane from the beginning, what he did was stupid and hurtful, and
I'm sure he would like to undo any wrong he has done, but it is out in the open
and news for everyone, he has embarrassed himself and everyone in his family
and chicago organization, and others close to him.
Now that it is settled, I can back off, and show some forgiveness, and hope
he moves on now, becomes a better person, and gets on with it.
The courts have done that, the cabbie has done that, his hockey team will
do that, I am glad the cabbie wasn't seriously injured, and I wish the best
for him.
 

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He asked the cabbie 'that', once, again you exaggerate to make the situation look much worse than it was.

I'm not exaggerating.
Blackhawks star accused of robbing cabbie

He was treated like a common criminal, he was charged, some charges were
dropped after investigation, there was no 'theft', so they were left with the
hefty fine.
A hefty fine?He got a $125 fine. I've gotten speeding tickets that were more.
I'm just a regular person, probably same as you,

That's where you are mistaken. I am extraordinary.

It doesn't make any difference to 'you'. We don't know how much difference it made to the cabbie, and from the comments from the cabbie and his lawyer, they were trying to smooth the whole situation over from the beginning.

They were after money. They were not overly cooperative with the police. That is why the charges were reduced, not because an assault didn't occur.

Now that it is settled, I can back off, and show some forgiveness, and hope he moves on now, becomes a better person, and gets on with it.

He'll become a better person once he realizes that he is an asshole and needs to get help. As they say, admitting you have a problem is the first step. Crying on TV because you got caught isn't the same thing.
 

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I may have missed it but has anyone comnsidered that besides the cabbie may have not had a valid license and had a history of drinking that he is also an " old man " being beaten by fit 20+ year olds. Classy guys !