Panic attacks

Cliffy

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Yup! Had a few. What do you want to do with this thread. Get people to discuss them or how they feel during? What?
 

Cliffy

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Yeah sure. What did it feel like for you?
A heart attack. I have had a few of those too. Only the miracle of medical science could tell the difference. I couldn't. Although I knew the last heart attack was coming hours before my heart actually stopped. I managed to get someone to call an ambulance and got to the hospital before I went into full cardiac arrest. That was 14 years ago. They gave me 1 month to live if I didn't have triple bypass. I'm still here and there is no scar on my chest.

Panic attacks were accompanied by fainting, cold sweats, having my vision slowly close down to a pin hole before going black, pounding heart, inability to move. All I could do was lie on the floor in a fetal position and kiss my ass good bye. Really not pleasant to wake up with your nose caressing your sphincter. :lol:
 

VanIsle

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This:

Panic attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ever had one? They're fun, right? It's for the people that want to have the feeling of dying when you're not actually dying.
I've spent years living with panic attacks. The mere idea of reading about them is almost enough to set one off. I won't even click on your link. I've had full blown agoraphobia twice - so bad that I had to quit good jobs on both occassions. I actually had agoraphobia really bad three times but the very first time, I didn't know what it was and I was a stay at home Mom at the time. I was about 26 or 27 years old at the time and here I am around 35 years later still afraid to read about them. I was almost over them. I have not had a full blown panic attack in years but the stress I've been living with over the past year seems to be making them think about rearing their ugly head again and it truly worries me. I've been fighting hard for the past few days not to let them happen and it's so odd that I come here and it's a thread. I hate panic attacks. You have to face the fear or it overtakes you. A panic attack won't kill you. It just feels like it's going to.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Yeah, I've had them, though not for about 25 years. They're terrifying if you don't know what they are, it really does feel like you're about to drop dead. Heart palpitations, shortness of breath, nausea, sweating... Now I recognize the initial symptoms and have learned how to tell that part of my mind to STFU, I can reliably cut them off before they get serious.
 

VanIsle

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Yeah, I've had them, though not for about 25 years. They're terrifying if you don't know what they are, it really does feel like you're about to drop dead. Heart palpitations, shortness of breath, nausea, sweating... Now I recognize the initial symptoms and have learned how to tell that part of my mind to STFU, I can reliably cut them off before they get serious.
Did you know that men can do that easier then women can for some odd reason. Women get panic attacks that are much more severe than men do (for the most part - not always). I honestly believe that had someone been able to tell me that all I was experiencing was an attack of anxiety, I would have relaxed then and there and been done with it. In those days, they didn't know what it was and simply used the words "It's your nerves". I was in my 20's and I didn't know what in hell they meant. I found out what I had by a fluke. Walking down the street one day I saw a pamphlet laying on the ground. It said something like "Are you terrified you are dying" so I picked it up and found out what was going on. I can't believe I actually reached down and picked up a dirty pamphlet off the ground to find that out.
 

Curiosity

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I'll never forget the first.....

....nor the hundreds of attacks over the ensuing years - even now I plan my life around the possibility of setting off another.

But....the attacks themselves led me to my choice of lifework and gave me a new
purpose for living with or without the attacks.

For the untreated or undiagnosed, they are hell.
 

VanIsle

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I'll never forget the first.....

....nor the hundreds of attacks over the ensuing years - even now I plan my life around the possibility of setting off another.

But....the attacks themselves led me to my choice of lifework and gave me a new
purpose for living with or without the attacks.

For the untreated or undiagnosed, they are hell.
Oh how well we plan our lives around the possibility of another attack! I have a range of travel by car I can do comfortably. Other than that, I leave the driving up to someone else. I think my range has stepped up to about 10 km. from my home. I can go that far as long as I know there is a "safe haven" (familiar place) for me when I get there if I am traveling alone. I used to avoid malls but now I can enter and even go well into the mall rather than just visiting the stores close to the door. My last few days have been very rocky but I am confident that I cannot let them get the best of me and I will continue moving about. It's the only way it will pass. I know there is treatment out there but - it means I have to go to the mainland to a shrink and pay a considerable fee while they teach me to "get over it". The trips alone are costly, let alone the cost of the docs. Can't go alone so I would need my husband to take time off work. I'll have to stay in my little 10 km world but I'm okay with that. I can go anywhere as long as a friend or relative is with me or at least near by and I can drive miles with another family member near by on the highway with me. Somewhere I can see them in my rear view mirror. I have a bit of a lead foot. ;-) Now I have to shower and drive 8 kms to my son's old house. I think it's called facing down the lions.:lol:
 

Curiosity

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VanIsle

My heart is with you and my memories flood back reading your response. I recall getting into my car and getting out ten minutes' later defeated having never turned the ignition on - which adds to the pressure of the next adventure or struggle with the beast within.

No professional was able to help me either - I had to find my own way out of the forest - what worked and after a successful trip or overcoming the waves of fear - I began to mount a defense of what was my own method of fighting the impulse to go into the attack when it started lurking.

I found Alprazolam (Xanax) - don't know what the brand is in Canada - helped and because it is inclined to addict, I started with a very tiny does 0.25mg and cut that tablet in half.... probably didn't affect my reaction at all, but "my head" believed it did which is half the battle with any phobic reaction. Sometimes just a mint to melt in my mouth - I always have some kind of candy in my purse...it replicates the act of taking medication so I can "fake it" a bit...

Another trick is the "prize" at the end of the line - whether it is meeting someone precious in your life - or treating yourself to a lunch with friends - more of these "treat exercises" help because often our journeys which involved panic are ones which we dislike - such as long lonely car drives away from the safe place of our domicile. Try promising yourself a treat for each trip taken and focus on it - I usually end up with ice cream but that treat is my "gold cup" as a winner and winning is the key to beating this nasty phobia down. For years now I still arrive
home and grin - "another trip made without incident"! It can be done.

I am thinking of you now and when you return home with a sigh of relief my sincere congratulations are delivered to you - another mountain conquered. Curio

PS: I believe your family doctor can prescribe Alprazolam if he/she will - many doctors are against it but mine happens to be a "cowboy" type willing to try whatever works to get the phobic "out and about".... it might be less expensive than doing the "shrink" trip - but that again is a "personal designer" highway to
your restored confidence and health....and you are the only one who will know what helps. BTW it isn't necessary to know "why this happens" which is the road
the shrink will want to spend hours travelling..... there is no "one cause" ..... and eventually you will find out years later when free of the attacks but it really doesn't matter once you find your own personal "cure".
 
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Curiosity

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Males vs. females and phobic reaction

I think a contributing factor for females if hormonal changes monthly and maturation processing as well - women are inclined to be busy bees changing
their moods through physical issues as well as mental.

It might be one way males are more likely able to handle if not end anxiety attacks more easily. Just my opinion - not verifiable by reams of scientific data .... Curio
 

VanIsle

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Males vs. females and phobic reaction

I think a contributing factor for females if hormonal changes monthly and maturation processing as well - women are inclined to be busy bees changing
their moods through physical issues as well as mental.

It might be one way males are more likely able to handle if not end anxiety attacks more easily. Just my opinion - not verifiable by reams of scientific data .... Curio
Thanks Curio. Kind words in both your posts. I have tried all the prescriptions you've mentioned and more. There is only one that works. It's cheap, it's been around forever but for me and many others who suffer from panic attacks it works. It's diazepam. Doctors don't like to give it out but no one argues with me about it anymore. All they have to do is look at the list of what I have tried and what makes it worse. It always comes back to just the one thing to calm me down. I think it's totally because it's a muscle relaxant. I'm sure you are well aware of the feeling of walking around feeling like you are a bunch of tight elastic bands that are about to break at any given moment.. I've been down the road with a number of shrinks. It doesn't help. This is a thing I was born with and my brothers and sister have it and I've passed it on to my sons and I am now seeing bits of it in my grandchildren as well. Sometimes, years and years ago when my sons were away at college and my husband was working evenings, I would call my sons. One of them would answer and I would chat away, not telling them that I was in a major state of anxiety. After a few minutes of talking, which ever one answered would say "are you alright now Mom". I never even had to say that I was troubled. They just knew. I would say yes and move on to another subject. I didn't want to talk about it because it would bring it back. Today is better than yesterday was and tomorrow will be better again. I just know because I will make it so.
 

Curiosity

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Hi again VanIsle

Just a short one (not certain if it will take) - I added something earlier to this but I guess I was caught in the glitch of "Post not long enough" or whatever..... just wanted to wish you happier days of freedom to enjoy your life and conquering
the attacks....I believe it does run in families along with other hyper-sensitive
personality problems, but as I wrote before I find that most susceptible people to these attacks seem to be related to very empathetic / sympathetic people....which in itself is a good thing regardless of the problems it causes....curio
 

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Hey! I got an idea for this thread. It can be a help thread for anyone experiencing a panic attack. If you start to have a panic attack, try to make here and someone with try to talk you down.

That is, if one's not rolled into a ball on the floor yelling "My skin's on fire!" or something like that. (Sorry, I gotta have a sense of humore about it.)
 

VanIsle

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Hey! I got an idea for this thread. It can be a help thread for anyone experiencing a panic attack. If you start to have a panic attack, try to make here and someone with try to talk you down.

That is, if one's not rolled into a ball on the floor yelling "My skin's on fire!" or something like that. (Sorry, I gotta have a sense of humore about it.)
A sense of humour is a great thing to have for panic attacks (well - for many things). Tell me though, in the midst of an attack, are you going to have the presence of mind to sit down at your computer and start searching for this thread? It is going to disappear off the page soon enough. Read what Dexter has to say about dealing with them. I loved his words for getting through one.
 

VanIsle

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Hi again VanIsle

Just a short one (not certain if it will take) - I added something earlier to this but I guess I was caught in the glitch of "Post not long enough" or whatever..... just wanted to wish you happier days of freedom to enjoy your life and conquering
the attacks....I believe it does run in families along with other hyper-sensitive
personality problems, but as I wrote before I find that most susceptible people to these attacks seem to be related to very empathetic / sympathetic people....which in itself is a good thing regardless of the problems it causes....curio
Thanks. I've had lots of freedom days and have not had an actual panic attack in years. I do make sure I don't put myself in the position though. It's always there in a little corner of my mind but I try not to let it occupy to big a corner. I had a few iffy days there but it passed over. One thing that I left group therapy with years ago was this little saying about panic attacks: It came to pass. It didn't come to stay.
 

Curiosity

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VanIsle

It's finally taken hold as a verifiable dysfunction by the mental health community and even some general practitioners are aware of the help available and various methods of relief to be tried by the sufferer.

Everyone is different and the biggest step over the years is to be "believed" instead of told "it's all in your head" or "just think of something else" while you are sweating and your heart is pounding and you are hanging onto a door so you won't open it and run out into the "world" which is even more scary.

The people who get to your stage - are the winners - who never mock others for having a similar problem - because it is as real as being clobbered over the head and just as uncomfortable.

I always think of people who are post-panic attack victims as heros - battlefield heros.