Pan-Canadian Bloc

[Jersay]

Now, on the national t.v. there has been reports of people putting up bloc signs in Ontario, New Brunswick and even in Alberta. Now, I have been thinking, the Bloc are for french rights in Canada, because Quebec is french.

Therefore, why don't they field candidates all across the country, they might be popular enough that they would form the government. There are french communities all across Canada, last time I checked in Ontario, 10% of the pop is French. And there are pockets in Manitoba, B.C., Alberta, and in the Maritimes.

So what do you guys think, if the Bloc fielded candidates all across Canada would you vote for them?

Because I kind of find it suspicious that they complain about French rights, and only run candidates in Quebec. There is a French population all across Canada.

 

[the caracal kid]

yes. i do think the bloc should field more candidates.
yes, i would vote bloc.

another option would be a bloc pacifica (BC).

 

[Calberty]

I'm sure a good chunk of Alberta would vote Bloc just to speed up Quebec independence.....'there's the door'.

 

[Jersay]

I am not talking about independence. I am talking about getting rid of the sepeatism 'crap' and starting a party, a national party for the French people of Canada. Because how can they say, they promote French rights, and once Quebec leaves the rest of the French in ROC, can go to hell.

 

[the caracal kid]

that is because quebec law does not extend to french-canadians outside quebec.

the other provinces would not take well to having quebec law extended over them for french-canadians.

also, many french canadians are not quebecois (and would not want quebec law extended over them).

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Pan-Canadian Bloc

that is because quebec law does not extend to french-canadians outside quebec.

the other provinces would not take well to having quebec law extended over them for french-canadians.

also, many french canadians are not quebecois (and would not want quebec law extended over them).

And besides, they have enough autonomy and special consessions as it is. The rights provided to you by living in the nation-province should not be extended outside, to other provinces.

 

[FiveParadox]

Vote for the Bloc Colombie-Brittanique?

If the Bloc Québecois were to nominate a candidate in the constituency of Newton—North Delta, my vote would not be entirely unlikely. In my opinion, of the various party leaders in the House of Commons, I would assert that Gilles Duceppe is the most honest and straightforward. Notwithstanding sovereignty, I am in favour of a majority of the Bloc Québecois' proposals regarding social programs and policies.

 

[Colpy]

Now, on the national t.v. there has been reports of people putting up bloc signs in Ontario, New Brunswick and even in Alberta. Now, I have been thinking, the Bloc are for french rights in Canada, because Quebec is french.

Therefore, why don't they field candidates all across the country, they might be popular enough that they would form the government. There are french communities all across Canada, last time I checked in Ontario, 10% of the pop is French. And there are pockets in Manitoba, B.C., Alberta, and in the Maritimes.

So what do you guys think, if the Bloc fielded candidates all across Canada would you vote for them?

Because I kind of find it suspicious that they complain about French rights, and only run candidates in Quebec. There is a French population all across Canada.

The problem is that the reason d'etre of the Bloc is the independence of QUEBEC.

Acadians, as a rule, don't much like Quebecois. They have a completely different culture and attitude.

Also, the Bloc is very much an mild socialist party, on par with the NDP, internationalist in character, and thus the antithesis of what I believe politically. Nope, I wouldn't vote for them

Unless the only other choice was the Liberals.

 

[FiveParadox]

So then, you honestly mean to say that if given the choice between casting the deciding vote for either:

(1) a Liberal Government which, despite its current problems and alleged scandals, has done some excellent things throughout the history of Canada; or

(2) a Bloc Québecois Government that planned to pass legislation for the purpose of granting Québec complete sovereignty;

You would honestly choose the latter?

 

[Colpy]

You have no idea how much I dislike the Liberal Party.

I simply can't comprehend the fact that Trudeau is the most respected PM in living memory.

It boggles the mind.

I'm afraid I just have to put it down to ignorance about the man and his actions.

As well, when I said I would vote for the Bloc, we were talking about a pan-Canadian Bloc, and I considered that to mean they had dropped their separatist aspirations.

 

[FiveParadox]

Oh, okay, Colpy. Sorry, I had misread one of the posts above.

As for the late Rt. Hon. Pierre Trudeau, it's probably 'cause his Government was responsible for the repatriation of the Constitution of Canada. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is quite a big deal for some people, myself included.

 

[Numure]

Because I kind of find it suspicious that they complain about French rights, and only run candidates in Quebec. There is a French population all across Canada.

The Bloc runs its campaign on Quebec. Its sole intrest is Quebec. They will fight for french rights because the majority of the people that vote for them are french.

The french population outside of Quebec is miniscule.

 

[FiveParadox]

The Bloc Québecois

That is exactly right, Numure. The Bloc Québecois has stated, through its Leader Gilles Duceppe, that "if it's good for Québec [in particular] then we will support it, and if it's not, then we will oppose it."

 

[cyberclark]

I would vote for the Block simply because I love Duceppe's politics! He's focused, clean and to the point. He knows what he wants and seems to know how to go about getting it.

I wished he was a federalist.

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Acadians, as a rule, don't much like Quebecois. They have a completely different culture and attitude.

Qui indique que l'Acadiens n'aiment pas les quebecois ?

We need all the help we can get down here in Acadien Louisiane, our levees are broke, our people displaced and no help from Washington, maybe Ottawa might be better, lets get behind something.

Awaiting Annexation.

 

[Doryman]

Now, on the national t.v. there has been reports of people putting up bloc signs in Ontario, New Brunswick and even in Alberta.


Yeeaahhh.. I'm pretty sure those signs are getting enthusiastically and incredulously laughed at. I wouldn't vote for Duceppe, and I dont know anyone else in my area who would. Maybe the Bloc could convince a couple towns in New Brunswick to vote for them, but I doubt that as well. As was mentioned before, the Bloc is only interesting in furthering Quebecs interests, if they got into power, everything would go towards one community, one province, one people. I don't know about anyone else, but that kind of bothers me...

The Bloc is a selfish, elitist organization, who draws lines based on nothing other than place of residence, language and heritage. They have no place in federal politics.

 

[cub1c]

As was mentioned before, the Bloc is only interesting in furthering Quebecs interests, if they got into power, everything would go towards one community, one province, one people. I don't know about anyone else, but that kind of bothers me...

The same way Conservatives is for the west and the Liberals for Ontario.

The Bloc is a selfish, elitist organization, who draws lines based on nothing other than place of residence, language and heritage. They have no place in federal politics.

You are right. Their place should be in the federal government of the country of Québec.

 

[Jay]

I would disagree some what. The Bloc may promote Quebec’s interests, but I would expect them to. Certainly it isn't there job to promote the interests of BC.

I respect the bloc for standing up to the Feds on issues of provincial jurisdiction. The people who wrote the BNA act wrote it the way it is for a reason. If Jack Layton and Paul Martin don't like it, they can get on one of those ships Martin likes so much and.....

 

[the caracal kid]

agreed cub1c and jay,

the bloc is doing what is should be doing: representing the people that elected them.

As far as elitist, etc: i would say the bloc represents integrity in federal politics.

 

[cub1c]

Re: RE: Pan-Canadian Bloc

agreed cub1c and jay,

the bloc is doing what is should be doing: representing the people that elected them.

As far as elitist, etc: i would say the bloc represents integrity in federal politics.

Let's get real on some points. Québécois knows that the BQ will never be in power. They also know that they can represent integrity for the simple fact that they never had the power. They also represent integrity for the reason that they only defend Québécois. They don't need to travestite themselves or hide anything from anybody in other province. They have an agenda, but it isn't hidden from nobody.

Again, BQ and PQ are coalitions party. Their goal is independance. So there is people from right to left in these coalitions. You have to be one hell of a party to be able to unite right and left people together for the cause. Though there is more left people in the BQ. But it reflects the minds of lots of Quebeckers and probably many Canadians which is: they tend to think right on economics related subject, but on the left on values. This is a real danger.
Though that's another subject and it has nothing to do with sovereignty.

That said, the main argument for attacking the BQ is that it "blocks" the country. Say what?!? A party that's not even the official opposition (with around 10% of supports) is blocking the whole country? I find this extreme and this argument is only appealing to influencial minds. It's, at the very least, childish. It's a personnal attack against people that vote BQ for their ideas and platform. I find very offensing the discours that the people that vote BQ are the reason why Canada doesn't work. Giving any credibility to that kind of argument leads to says that every opposition party should always be on the same side of the party that form the government, cause if they are not, they are uncanadian and just blocking Canada. Very nice democracy!