Palin in 2012

YukonJack

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I wonder what would happen if that socialist Obama had done this.....?

YouTube - Sarah Palin signs American flag at Tea Party event in Reno

If the socialist Obama did not have the same kind of reaction to the American flag (Known to Americans as OLD GLORY) as Count Dracula has to garlic, he would sign his name on the flag. Hell, being an egomaniac that he is, he would sign his name on toilet paper.

And the slobbering left-wing media would applaud. Along with.....
 

Avro

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Palin does it and the sheep deflect and ignore.

You're always good for some laughs YJ....thanks for that.
 

YukonJack

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Wouldn't that be considered defacing the flag?

According to the Supreme Court of the United States burning the United states flag is nothing more or less than expression of free speech. Now, you tell me, which is less respectful: burning it or 'defacing' it by a political personality (GOD, there are so few of them), for someone who respects and admires her?

Also, how about those who fashion the flag into shirts and underwear?
 

ironsides

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I wonder what would happen if that socialist Obama had done this.....?

So many people are ignorant of the protocols, if Obama had done it so what he has done far worse. Liberals are afraid of her. She doesn't have to run for President, in fact it would be better if she didn't. She has already damaged the Democratic party.
 

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No matter which party you vote for it's a vote for GovernmentSachs and the Fed Reserve.

They run our bank.
 

ironsides

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Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.

1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republicans "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.


2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out". They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.
3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.
4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.


5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment.
No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.


6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025.
Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't be holding my breath.


By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.
 

Icarus27k

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So, you're trying to get me to believe that Palin had some good accomplishments as Governor, when you think Obama (and his astonishing accomplishments) is (are) worse than Bush?

Cause in that other thread, you did say that Bush was better than Obama. It's kind of an unrealistic minimalization of Obama on your part. A minimalization that seems like it could more realistically be done to Palin's tenure as Governor.

3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.


Fiscally responsible Sarah Palin, eh? An eliminator of pork? As a candidate for Alaska Governor in 2006, she supported arguably the most egregious popular example of pork in US history: the Bridge to Nowhere. It was an Alaska infrastructure project connecting Gravina Island to the city of Ketchikan.

Source on this: Gravina Island Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palin's September 2006 speech to the Ketchikan Chamber of Commerce:

"The money that's been appropriated for the project, it should remain available for a link, an access process as we continue to evaluate the scope and just how best to just get this done. This link is a commitment to help Ketchikan expand its access, to help this community prosper. I think we're going to make a good team as we progress that bridge project."


In response to the question "Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?" given in an October 2006 questionaire for the Ancorage Daily News, Palin wrote:


"Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now — while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."






Palin eventually flip flopped on the matter, making a public reputation of the project after she became Governor. But Congress had long since raised populist anger over it and made sure it would never get funding.
 
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ironsides

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You forget, Obama was a senator and a community organizer. He did nothing in those positions (no executive experience). Yes, Sarah Palin did more in her position as Governor than Obama did before becoming President. Sarah Palin clipped the claws of the Democrats in this past election, rendering them more impotent than they were with a majority. No, I still do not believe that she will make a serious run for the Presidency in 2012, she will just continue to do what she is doing now. By the way do not consider the money for the bridge to nowhere pork, it was pittance compared to what other senators do for their states. You want to see pork barrel spending, look up what Senator Robert Byrd got for West Virginia. (In his over forty-eight years (!) in the United States Senate, Senator Byrd has achieved a pork record that is second to none.)



So, you're trying to get me to believe that Palin had some good accomplishments as Governor, when you think Obama (and his astonishing accomplishments) is (are) worse than Bush?

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I'm not comparing Obama to Bush, there is no contest there. You may not have like Bush, but he made it thru two terms.
 

Icarus27k

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So, pork is not pork, when the politician you like supports it? Cause that sounds like what you just said.
 

ironsides

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They wanted a bridge to a island, what is wrong with that. How many States have bridges to off shore islands. Alaska asked for funding for the bridge and it was denied. Where is the pork belly spending. Money never appropriated, never spent. No pork belly spending. Look it up. (The term that is)
 

Icarus27k

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"Pork" is notoriously relative. Every supposed example of pork has a story of a somewhat noble politician just wanting some money for a needed project for his or her district/state. Even your previous example of Sen. Byrd is like that. I'm sure those West Virginians really appreciate all the funding he brought home to the state.

The Bridge to Nowhere is arguably the single most egregious example of pork in US history. It was used as a talking point by politicians and watchdog organizations for years. And yet, Palin once supported it. Your description of Palin as some great fiscal conservative and pork eliminator needs to be more rounded with this information.
 

ironsides

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If Sarah Palin wasn't running for Vice President, the Democrats/Liberals would have left her alone. What is to gain by making a issue of a state with only 698,473 residents. ($395 million not much money to boost economy)


Thinking about it now, the bridge to nowhere might have improved the economy to the area. Removing the need for a ferry, and increasing the capacity the Ketchikan airport, tourism alone would have created many more jobs and brought income into the state.
 
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You're saying that Palin did away with her state security detail when she was Governor?

And also that 25% of Alaska's energy use is from renewable sources?