Palin in 2012

SirJosephPorter

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Isn't Joan of Arc considered a hero?

Quite so, Avro. Palin acolytes regard her with the same awe, same adulation, same worshipfulness, as the followers of Joan of Arc regarded her. Hence the nickname. The nickname doesn’t really make fun of Palin; it makes fun of her followers for their slavish adulation, adoration of her.

To her acolytes, Palin is a hero and much more.
 

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Palin Book Sells 300,000 Copies On First Day

Sarah Palin sold 300,000 copies of Going Rogue on its first day of sale. More details on the media rollout that’s doubled as a $25.6 million economic stimulus package.


by Brendan Lemon | 11/20/09

Boy, is she ever popular.

Yes Walter, I am sure Palin will be very popular.. Of course I guess it depends on your political point of view as many of the McCain people are being very defensive from what I have read..

NEW YORK - Former McCain campaign senior adviser Nicolle Wallace says Sarah Palin's book "Going Rogue" is "based on fabrications," and that the basis for Palin’s depictions of her and former McCain campaign director Steve Schmidt as villains "took place entirely in her imagination."

In a statement to The Rachel Maddow Show, the former McCain spokesperson repeatedly used the word "fiction" to describe Palin's narrative and echoed criticisms by other former McCain staffers.

"She probably has a legitimate complaint that things could have been better conceived and executed," Wallace said. "A book about that would have been painful but not entirely unfair," Wallace told an msnbc producer in an off-camera, on-the-record interview.

McCain adviser: Palin’s book is fiction - More politics- msnbc.com
 

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That is the nature of politics and why most parties try to get as squeaky clean a politician as possible..

Usually that is the case. A notable exception of course, was Clinton. His womanizing ways were known even when he was a candidate.

Republicans thought that they could exploit his womanizing ways, but they were singularly unsuccessful. Even after they carried out a purely partisan, politically motivated impeachment (not a single Democrat voted for it, and several Republicans voted against it in the senate); they still failed to destroy Clinton. Clinton rolled the Republican Congress and left office with popularity rating in the high 60s (compared to Bush who left office with approval in the 20s).
 

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LOL! You haven't been reading the newspapers as it is the right wingers who are the ones attacking her lies in her phony new book:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/going-rogue-the-18-bigges_n_359837.html

Here I have to agree Gopher.

All I could find was an article from Nicolle Wallace at this time as they self destruct on this topic.

I think this blood bath will go on for a while as Palin keeps the knives sharp and out against those who feel it was her fault for loosing the Election. To be honest it really was not her fault that she was not the right candidate for McCain..

Palin really has a point that some really have to look into the mirror for part of the blame..
 

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Right on, AnnaG. :lol:
 

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''Here I have to agree Gopher.
All I could find was an article from Nicolle Wallace at this time as they self destruct on this topic. ''


Also Conroy wrote a book on the subject.

Amazingly, the far right continue to insist that it is the libs who are attacking Palin by pointing out her incessant lies and self pity. But the reality is that it is the conservative Republicans who are doing so.

Pointing out those lies does not constitutes ''attacks'' as those dimwits say. But it shows how desperate they are to defend themselves no matter what.
 

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Claiming the Huffington Post is Right wing? :roll:


There are many Republicans who are attacking Palin, ironsides; she is a very polarizing figure. I think the best contribution she can make to Republican Party is to go and campaign for selected candidates, those who want her to campaign for them (in recent election, both New Jersey and Virginia Republican candidates did not invite her to campaign on their behalf).

But if she runs for Republican nomination in 2012, chances are very good that she will win the nomination, and then you are very likely looking at a Republican massacre in 2012, a repeat of Johnson Goldwater election.
 

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And why should I address Sarah Palin by her name? Just because you want me to? I can all her anything I want. And I already have my answer. You could not point any issue where you disagree with your idol, Joan of Arc. Even after repeated probing by me, you couldn’t come up with even one issue where you disagree with her. I don’t think I need any more answer.

Just because we may disagree with someone, we do have to be child like and call them names. Yes, those who first called her that were acting childish. She has a name, and has not done anything to be called anything but her given name.
 

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Just because we may disagree with someone, we do have to be child like and call them names. Yes, those who first called her that were acting childish. She has a name, and has not done anything to be called anything but her given name.

Calling somebody Joan of Arc is calling her a name? I thought Joan of Arc was a compliment. How is that a ‘name’? Since when Joan of Arc is a term of abuse?

Indeed, that is the difference between at least some conservatives and someone like me. Conservatives call Obama all kinds of nasty, filthy names. The politicians I don’t like I refer to them with flattering, complimentary terms, such as ‘Messiah’ for Harper, or Joan of Arc for Palin.
 

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The way you use it is not complimentary, never a nice thing to say about her. Joan of Arc was a savior of a country, Sarah Palin is not nor never claimed to be. See look what you just said, "Messiah’ for Harper, or Joan of Arc for Palin" you are using symbols of things you dislike or do not believe in (this case religion). By using those particular symbols you are belittling another group.​
 

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Just because we may disagree with someone, we do have to be child like and call them names. Yes, those who first called her that were acting childish. She has a name, and has not done anything to be called anything but her given name.

I agree with you ironesides..

But keep in mind the same applies to both sides.. Hence Democrats should be entitled to the same respect..
 

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But if she runs for Republican nomination in 2012, chances are very good that she will win the nomination, and then you are very likely looking at a Republican massacre in 2012, a repeat of Johnson Goldwater election.

Again SJP, you "assume" the nomination is won on what basis ?

Palin has gone after what every base of support she had left in the Republican party. The little support remaining will leave as soon as another candidate jumps in with a mightier bank account and better crowd pleasing talking skill ( which will not require much ).
 
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ironsides

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I agree with you ironesides..

But keep in mind the same applies to both sides.. Hence Democrats should be entitled to the same respect..

Of course they do and are when they earn that right. For example: Senator John Kerry, Mr. Max Cleland, Mr. Bill Gillespie, Mr. Charlie Rangel, and others.
 

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The way you use it is not complimentary, never a nice thing to say about her. Joan of Arc was a savior of a country, Sarah Palin is not nor never claimed to be. See look what you just said, "Messiah’ for Harper, or Joan of Arc for Palin" you are using symbols of things you dislike or do not believe in (this case religion). By using those particular symbols you are belittling another group.​

Nevertheless, those are complimentary words, ironsides, not epithets. Now, I may use them sarcastically, but still I don’t call Palin nasty, filthy names like many conservatives do to Obama.

If I can damn somebody with faint praise, kill somebody with compliments, I don’t see anything wrong with that. That is an art form in itself, you should try that sometimes.
 
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