Order of Canada Revoked for Stephen Fonyo

[JLM]

Fonyo has been given chance after chance after chance to prove himself a man. He was still a boy when he did a noble thing but either he was getting a walk (no pun intended) or he is immature. He can be a man after 44 years and face the consequences. Anybody else would have been sent to the hoosegow long ago where they can be babysat and hopefully grow up not just grow old.

Giving a person "chance after chance after chance" doesn't mean a thing, if the problem causing the behaviour isn't solved. For some insight people should read the story of Bill W. co-founder of AA. He was hopeless until he finally found the key after many years. He was never a bad person, just a man with a problem, that took a long time to get a handle on. I get absolutely no satisfaction from dwelling on Fonyo's crimes (misdemeanors), the details of which I know nothing about and probably most others know even less. I just hope he finds the solution.

 

[JLM]

If the people who award the honour had just talked to Fonyo first they might not have named him as a member. Just a rough guess but I think Fonyo has an I.Q. of maybe 80. I always felt a bit sorry for Fonyo because no matter what he did, he was never going to get the celebrity and love that Terry Fox got. The night that Terry Fox had to quit his run because of his health, was there a Canadian anywhere who didn't shed a tear for him. It was a huge act to follow.

The only comparisons I see between Terry Fox and Steve Fonyo, is they both lost a leg to cancer and they both undertook an arduous task to raise money for a cure for cancer. Otherwise I don't think there was the adversity in Terry's life there was in Steves (being an immigrant, losing his father to cancer & possibly not having a winning dispositon) I think Fonyo's I .Q. is higher than 80, or I doubt if he'd even reach the stage of being able to train to be a helicopter pilot. Anyway I don't think I.Q. should have any bearing on being awarded the Order of Canada. Is the Order of Canada something a really noble person would want to be part of?

 

[#juan]

The only comparisons I see between Terry Fox and Steve Fonyo, is they both lost a leg to cancer and they both undertook an arduous task to raise money for a cure for cancer. Otherwise I don't think there was the adversity in Terry's life there was in Steves (being an immigrant, losing his father to cancer & possibly not having a winning dispositon) I think Fonyo's I .Q. is higher than 80, or I doubt if he'd even reach the stage of being able to train to be a helicopter pilot. Anyway I don't think I.Q. should have any bearing on being awarded the Order of Canada. Is the Order of Canada something a really noble person would want to be part of?

JLM I'm not quite sure where you are coming from.

Fonyo was charged with assault, assault with a weapon, agrivated assault, fraud (bad checks totaling $10,000.00, five times with impaired driving, seven times with driving without a license. Anybody else would be serving years in jail, which is where he should be.
The order of Canada is an honour awarded to distinguished people of this country. It looks like Fonyo did everything possible to disqualify himself from that honour, and it worked. If I were one of those so awarded. I would not feel really great knowing that Fonyo, an habitual criminal, was part of the group.

 

[JLM]

"JLM I'm not quite sure where you are coming from."

It's not rocket science where I'm "coming from"- If you are going to be punished for the bad stuff you do, then it's not out of line to be awarded for the good stuff. Drugs are an evil thing that makes some people act totally out of character, while they may not be a good excuse they are definitely a reason. I think his Order of Canada should stand.

 

[Liberalman]

Do you ever have a clue what you are taling about?

All the time

 

[Liberalman]

From time to time we all make inane comments. Did it ever occur to you to look it up before you came up with this bright idea? How did you ever come up with one governement being behind it. It has everything to do with Steve Fonyo and not whoever is leading the country at the moment. It's not a "dumb" act of gov't. There was a valid reason for him to lose the Order of Canada and he probably should have lost it a long time ago.

I only say this because it's only the Conservative government that wants to take away a person's Canadian citizenship just because they feel like it.

If the Conservatives can porogue for no valid reason in a minority government then they are capable of anything to take away the rights of Canadians

 

[#juan]

"JLM I'm not quite sure where you are coming from."

It's not rocket science where I'm "coming from"- If you are going to be punished for the bad stuff you do, then it's not out of line to be awarded for the good stuff. Drugs are an evil thing that makes some people act totally out of character, while they may not be a good excuse they are definitely a reason. I think his Order of Canada should stand.

Fonyo is not a young kid with a drug problem. He is a 44 year old man who has been abusing himself and his body with alcohol and drugs for twenty odd years. He has been guilty of every kind of assault including spousal abuse. He is not acting out of character. He is completely in character. This as-hol- not who I want in the Order of Canada.

 

[JLM]

Fonyo is not a young kid with a drug problem. He is a 44 year old man who has been abusing himself and his body with alcohol and drugs for twenty odd years. He has been guilty of every kind of assault including spousal abuse. He is not acting out of character. He is completely in character. This as-hol- not who I want in the Order of Canada.

Fair enough, I guess on this issue we have to agree to disagree.

 

[TenPenny]

I only say this because it's only the Conservative government that wants to take away a person's Canadian citizenship just because they feel like it.

If the Conservatives can porogue for no valid reason in a minority government then they are capable of anything to take away the rights of Canadians

I'm sure in your bizarre brain there's a connection, but you might want to adjust your meds.

The Order of Canada is not something guaranteed by the Charter of Rights to a convicted felon.

 

[YukonJack]

After the slobbering, slavish and mindless adoration Terry Fox received for NOT completing the coast-to-coast run, one can - to at least a small degree - understand the frustration that Fonyo's must have felt when he was totally ignored after COMPLETING what he'd set out to do. TWICE.

Had he preceeded Terry Fox, and received the recognition he never did, perhaps he would not have resorted to drugs and booze.

At any rate, he EARNED the Order of Canada. Revoking it was a cheap, political act.

 

[TenPenny]

After the slobbering, slavish and mindless adoration Terry Fox received for NOT completing the coast-to-coast run, one can - to at least a small degree - understand the frustration that Fonyo's must have felt when he was totally ignored after COMPLETING what he'd set out to do. TWICE.
.

It takes a special kind of azzwhole to resent Terry Fox for trying to do something.

Do you take lessons on being a focktard?

 

[JLM]

After the slobbering, slavish and mindless adoration Terry Fox received for NOT completing the coast-to-coast run, one can - to at least a small degree - understand the frustration that Fonyo's must have felt when he was totally ignored after COMPLETING what he'd set out to do. TWICE.

Had he preceeded Terry Fox, and received the recognition he never did, perhaps he would not have resorted to drugs and booze.

At any rate, he EARNED the Order of Canada. Revoking it was a cheap, political act.

Y.J. You are more amazing every day. Apart from your off colour insane remarks about Terry Fox, you are right on the money. Too bad you had to ruin what would be an excellent post with your incoherent blathering in the first sentence.

 

[YukonJack]

"It takes a special kind of azzwhole to resent Terry Fox for trying to do something."

And a total complete idiot for not giving credit for Fonyo for actually DOING something.

"Do you take lessons on being a focktard?"

Reading your posts is quite enough to qualify YOU as one.

 

[YukonJack]

"Y.J. You are more amazing every day. Apart from your off colour insane remarks about Terry Fox, you are right on the money. Too bad you had to ruin what would be an excellent post with your incoherent blathering in the first sentence."

JLM, if I had omitted 'slobbering', 'slavish' and 'mindless', you still would not have omitted 'off colour', 'incoherent blathering' and 'insane'.

To you and your soul-mate, one-penny-worth TenPenny, with your hatred, it would not make a bit of a difference if I invented cure for cancer.

The two of you are the perfect illustration of intellectually challenged retards who must resort to name-calling and insults, when you have nothing worthwhile to say.

 

[karrie]

Fonyo's crimes (misdemeanors)....

Traveling to Canada

DUI is a felony in Canada. Not a misdemeanor.

 

[karrie]

After the slobbering, slavish and mindless adoration Terry Fox received for NOT completing the coast-to-coast run, one can - to at least a small degree - understand the frustration that Fonyo's must have felt when he was totally ignored after COMPLETING what he'd set out to do. TWICE.

Had he preceeded Terry Fox, and received the recognition he never did, perhaps he would not have resorted to drugs and booze.

At any rate, he EARNED the Order of Canada. Revoking it was a cheap, political act.

What about a two time act (though incredible, and personally, one that shouldn't be compared incessantly to Terry Fox) earned him an honour that's about a lifetime of contribution?

 

[TenPenny]

And a total complete idiot for not giving credit for Fonyo for actually DOING something.

Oh, I think his criminal record speaks for itself. That's quite an accomplisment. i can see why you're envious of it.

 

[#juan]

Fair enough, I guess on this issue we have to agree to disagree.

We can always have different views. I just want to be right...;-):smile:

 

[JLM]

"It takes a special kind of azzwhole to resent Terry Fox for trying to do something."

And a total complete idiot for not giving credit for Fonyo for actually DOING something.

"Do you take lessons on being a focktard?"

Reading your posts is quite enough to qualify YOU as one.

Just wondering there, Y.J. if Fonyo had not been born in Hungary/of Hangarian parentage if you might be singing a slightly different tune.

 

[JLM]

We can always have different views. I just want to be right...;-):smile:

Absolutely- and in your mind you are.