Uhuh. And where do you stay while you are looking for this place to stay that you can't really afford "at first"? And what if you are out of credit and have no money while you after you managed to find this job and had to move to get to it?
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Mollycoddling is that what I am hearing? They are there where the jobs are everything falls into place.
Alberta and Saskatchewan is going through boom times I lived it in Alberta when I was there where you could quit one job and have another one in an hour. It's not like the east where most people who are not working for a year because there is not enough jobs to go around.
Once you get that job then everyone want to rent to you for lots of money and later you can pick and choose a place for a lower rent later.
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Elliot Lake is the perfect example. How many folk bought houses in a boomtown economy not only to lose their jobs, but their investment when it all went bust? The only thing you don't lose is the mortgage.
There are places in the west you can get temporary industrial jobs until one finds full time employment
I understand the sentiment, and don't disagree with your entirely. Certainly when some parts of the country are experiencing labour shortages, it makes sense to send the unemployed to work there no doubt. But, sometimes many of those jobs require special skills, in which case just sending a person there could leave him hanging with still no job but now living in a high-priced boom town. So first you want to make sure he has the necessary skills or send him to school to get those skills.
Second, you don't want him to get a job but then have to sleep outside starving and so having to quit his job since he's feeling faint from cold and starvation, so you want to make sure that he first have the qualifications before going there, and then have an employer guarantee him a job with initial moving and lodging costs before forcing him to move there. Under those conditions, then I'm all for forcing him to move there with certain exceptions such as dependents with special medical needs and such.
It's not worth a part-time job for the moving costs involved. In your local town, part-time might be fine. But you won't blow all your money and relocate for a part-time job. Get real.
That's the other thing. We'd want to move people to a sustainable economy, and not a bubble economy just to have to move them all again.
Sounds like you are describing a person who doesn’t want to work or wants it all handed on a silver platter.
It all boils down to how much one wants it and what one is willing to do to get a better life.
Think of the people that come here from other countries they left their homes to work here and they will do what ever the Canadians don’t want to do for the almighty dollar because they know it is all about climbing the ladder of success.
Mollycoddling works to a certain point but it will never get you all the way there and if you don’t mind begging for your existence and fighting for scraps like a junk yard dog then I guess that works too.
Canada is still the land of opportunity and all it takes is for one to lean out on the merry-go-round of life and get that brass ring and then reap the rewards.
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Those coming from other countries either have the skills already along with some security before even coming, or they're refugees who do get much support to integrate. No comparison.
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Fukking EI and Welfare..
I'm telling you all walfare bums get drug tested before getting a check, single males.. no check.. get a job unless your retarded or some special needs case.
EI.. limit to 3 months.. if you can't find a job, go to welfare.
This pisses me off.. I can go into the worst areas in the USA or Canada and find employment within 3 days max, in the USA $45,000 a year plus, Canada $60,000 a year plus. (minimum)
DON'T FUKKING TELL ME PEOPLE CAN'T FIND A JOB!!!
I'd like to see both EI & Welfare cancelled. Rely on family or churches as they did early 1900's. The system is to expensive and open to fraud,
I agree and I wouldn't have any trouble finding work pretty much anywhere in Canuckville either. But then, I've had decades of experinece in firefighting in the bush and municipalities as well as heavy machinery mechanics and operating.
Many people simply can't find much for jobs in the areas they are trained in, though, I would think. But if I were one of them, I'd think nothing of shoveling snow, mowing lawns, etc. I'd have to be dragged into doing paperwork jobs, though.
I have no problem giving a person a hand up,I constantly post on facebook that I need excavator operators and will hook them up with a good job,I also have offered free room and board to some that come here from anywhere and needs a place to stay and maybe a job.
So far the last 3 peeps got cozy after awhile and had a hard time getting off the couch and party poker or facebook games.
In todays world every day you dont work is another bit farther you fall behind,just ask anyone struggling to pay rent,powerbills and all that.
But if someone doesnt have to pay the bills,then they start to get too comfortable and sometimes need a good kick in the ass to get motivated.
I went for a drive today and saw a guy picking bottles in the ditch,at least hes trying,at 10 cents a pop he is at least getting some grocery money and I have been there before so have walked a mile in his shoes at least.
You do what you can,I have been in survival mode many times in my life and today it seems it just gets harder for some.
I make good money and just the power and gas bills are brutal for me so I can just imagine a single mom trying to keep 2 kids and rent and all that.
I've seen people take all the ketchup packets from a restaraunt only to make tomato soup later,thats survival mode.
So far the last 3 peeps got cozy after awhile and had a hard time getting off the couch and party poker or facebook games.
In todays world every day you dont work is another bit farther you fall behind,just ask anyone struggling to pay rent,powerbills and all that.
But if someone doesnt have to pay the bills,then they start to get too comfortable and sometimes need a good kick in the ass to get motivated.
I went for a drive today and saw a guy picking bottles in the ditch,at least hes trying,at 10 cents a pop he is at least getting some grocery money and I have been there before so have walked a mile in his shoes at least.
You do what you can,I have been in survival mode many times in my life and today it seems it just gets harder for some.
I make good money and just the power and gas bills are brutal for me so I can just imagine a single mom trying to keep 2 kids and rent and all that.
I've seen people take all the ketchup packets from a restaraunt only to make tomato soup later,thats survival mode.
OK. But I'm not convinced. I'd found good jobs online in the past. So you're telling me that without knowing how to surf the web or use email you could still find a job easily. Or even if you did know, but had no computer, had no proper clothes for an interview, etc. you still could find such a job? You might be right, but I have my doubts.
Takes minimum 3 months right now to get EI Something I have paid into since 1978 and the libs wasted paying down our debt.
They cut off overtime for EI workers to keep claims going,so they are on a work to rule thing and its minimum 3 months to get anything from EI right now,it takes 2 weeks to even get ahold of an agent and after they give you the song and dance about how they are so overworked they tell you to go get a loan at welfare but make sure you tell them why you are there,no wonder I dont like unions.
Being of an age,and from a depressed area of the country {NS},I remember when,if you couldn't get a job locally,doing anything that paid,you scraped together forty dollars,bought an old car hnd headed off to greener pastures.In the sixties,the land of milk and honey was in Ontario.Personally,I've lived and worked in,besides NS,Ontario,Alberta and BC,and taken jobs at whatever paid,and that list is quite long,driving truck,various jobs in saw mills,a sulpher plant in Alta,hop fields in BC,nursing orderly in Ont,and on and on.
I "m out of the work force now,except for some part time stuff for beer money,but friends that are still working tell me stories about how hard it is now to get good help,very few young people are worth a damn. They like getting paid but arent interested in doing a good job,just put in the time.
Then there's this shyte about getting a job in your chosen field,and refusing anything but.One thing about immigrants,give them a job and before long the own the company.
Nuff for now.
I "m out of the work force now,except for some part time stuff for beer money,but friends that are still working tell me stories about how hard it is now to get good help,very few young people are worth a damn. They like getting paid but arent interested in doing a good job,just put in the time.
Then there's this shyte about getting a job in your chosen field,and refusing anything but.One thing about immigrants,give them a job and before long the own the company.
Nuff for now.