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European officials presented their own Ukraine peace proposals to the United States on Saturday as President Donald Trump prepared for talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin on ending the war.
I wonder if Zelinsky or the Ukrainians got to be involved in these peace proposals by the Europeans (?) or they’re still sitting at the children’s table wherever that is…not invited to the party yet?
Details of the potential deal have yet to be announced, but Trump said it would involve "some swapping of territories to the betterment of both". It could require Ukraine to surrender significant parts of its territory, an outcome Zelenskiy and his European allies say would only encourage Russian aggression, etc…
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I wonder if Zelinsky or the Ukrainians got to be involved in these peace proposals by the Europeans (?) or they’re still sitting at the children’s table wherever that is…not invited to the party yet?
Details of the potential deal have yet to be announced, but Trump said it would involve "some swapping of territories to the betterment of both". It could require Ukraine to surrender significant parts of its territory, an outcome Zelenskiy and his European allies say would only encourage Russian aggression, etc…
Europe and Ukraine press US ahead of Trump-Putin talks — Reuters
European officials presented their own Ukraine peace proposals to the United States on Saturday as President Donald Trump prepared for talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin on ending the war.
Zelenskyy is too hot headed for negotiations.European officials presented their own Ukraine peace proposals to the United States on Saturday as President Donald Trump prepared for talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin on ending the war.
I wonder if Zelinsky or the Ukrainians got to be involved in these peace proposals by the Europeans (?) or they’re still sitting at the children’s table wherever that is…not invited to the party yet?
Details of the potential deal have yet to be announced, but Trump said it would involve "some swapping of territories to the betterment of both". It could require Ukraine to surrender significant parts of its territory, an outcome Zelenskiy and his European allies say would only encourage Russian aggression, etc…
Europe and Ukraine press US ahead of Trump-Putin talks — Reuters
European officials presented their own Ukraine peace proposals to the United States on Saturday as President Donald Trump prepared for talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin on ending the war.
Seemed to do well in the two on one with Trump/Vance in the gilded bordello room at the White House, & he seemed to be one of the few adults in the room from what I watched.
I would have went all out and called him a zalupa.
Putin’s suggestion that he was willing to halt Russian attacks on Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions was understood by the Americans as an offer to withdraw, according to a person briefed on the talks.
Russia has proposed that Kyiv relinquish the Donbas area of eastern Ukraine, which includes the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, in exchange for a ceasefire but without offering anything else in return, according to the person briefed on the negotiations. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomacy.
The Kremlin is not willing to give back territory in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Russian military gains have secured Moscow’s prized land bridge to occupied Crimea, the person said.
In their statement, European leaders said a ceasefire should be a precondition for negotiations, not a Russian bargaining chip.
Trump told reporters Friday that the Kremlin proposal involved “some swapping of territories to the betterment of both” countries.
Russian analysts said Putin would not agree to withdraw forces from Kherson or Zaporizhzhia, regions Russia illegally annexed in 2022 but still does not fully control.
“Russian troops are not going to make any step backward,” said Sergei Markov, a pro-Kremlin analyst. The only compromise Russia would make, he said, would be to halt its military campaign to seize the Odesa and Kharkiv regions and the cities of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, which remain under Ukrainian control.
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Zelensky reiterated Saturday that he would not accept any deal that involved giving territory to Russia, which he said was forbidden by Ukraine’s constitution.
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Russia has proposed that Kyiv relinquish the Donbas area of eastern Ukraine, which includes the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, in exchange for a ceasefire but without offering anything else in return, according to the person briefed on the negotiations. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomacy.
The Kremlin is not willing to give back territory in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Russian military gains have secured Moscow’s prized land bridge to occupied Crimea, the person said.
In their statement, European leaders said a ceasefire should be a precondition for negotiations, not a Russian bargaining chip.
Trump told reporters Friday that the Kremlin proposal involved “some swapping of territories to the betterment of both” countries.
Russian analysts said Putin would not agree to withdraw forces from Kherson or Zaporizhzhia, regions Russia illegally annexed in 2022 but still does not fully control.
“Russian troops are not going to make any step backward,” said Sergei Markov, a pro-Kremlin analyst. The only compromise Russia would make, he said, would be to halt its military campaign to seize the Odesa and Kharkiv regions and the cities of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, which remain under Ukrainian control.
Ukraine says it struck oil refinery in Russia's Saratov region — Reuters
Ukraine's military said on Sunday that it had struck an oil refinery in Russia's Saratov region in an overnight drone attack.
Russians cheer Putin’s Alaska invitation, envision no concessions on Ukraine — The Washington Post
Ukrainian and European officials met with Vice President JD Vance to coordinate a response to Russia’s proposal.
