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I have to say i'm not sure if i buy this "depeted rusisian stockpiles' thing all that much. For bigger items like tanks and such it makes some sense but things like missiles? I mean, the us and the allies are depleating their stocks too, so they just go to their industries and say "ramp it up, make us more". The russians have the industrial might and they know how to make 'em - early on when putin thought he could win in a week i totally get that they'd have been slow to ramp up but what on earth would be stopping them right now from having their facgtories pumping out missiles and rockets and ammo etc. And it's not hard to make a warhead for a missile.

ANd i am TOTALLY not buying them sending their troops out with mosin's. Rifle practice during training MAYBE but c'mon. I'd need to see some hard core verifiable sources for that. They've been pumping out AK's by the billion since 1950. Coming up with 300 thousand for the new troops seems pretty doable.

I think that while the russians are short on a lot of things and critically short of some things, they're better off than some suggest. They appear to be doing a fair bit of offensive operations in the northern regions and they're not attacking with T-60's and mosins. And they are using a lot of artillery by all reports

THe Ukrainians will win the war in the end but the idea that the russians are only fighting with ww2 eqipment when they have any equipment at al sounds implausible to me.
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Link Ukraine Reveals How Many Missiles Putin Has Left: 'Defeat Is Inevitable' (newsweek.com)

Link How many tanks are left in Russia and which countries can transfer equipment to the occupiers: an expert's explanation - Daily News (txtreport.com)

Military expert Oleksandr Kovalenko believes that Russia had up to 3,300 combat-ready tanks at the beginning of the full-scale war against Ukraine.

In Ukraine, the occupiers have already lost 2,899 tanks.

He wrote about this on his Telegram channel.

Kovalenko emphasized that the Russian Federation lost a large part of its tanks during the war.

According to open sources, Russia has up to 15,000 tanks in storage, but probably only 20% of them can be restored to be sent to war.

And that is why the Russian Federation is taking tanks from Belarus.

"About 20% of all available tanks are suitable for restoration of combat capability from Russian storage centers.
 
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Twin_Moose said:


Link Ukraine Reveals How Many Missiles Putin Has Left: 'Defeat Is Inevitable' (newsweek.com)

Link How many tanks are left in Russia and which countries can transfer equipment to the occupiers: an expert's explanation - Daily News (txtreport.com)

Military expert Oleksandr Kovalenko believes that Russia had up to 3,300 combat-ready tanks at the beginning of the full-scale war against Ukraine.

In Ukraine, the occupiers have already lost 2,899 tanks.

He wrote about this on his Telegram channel.

Kovalenko emphasized that the Russian Federation lost a large part of its tanks during the war.

According to open sources, Russia has up to 15,000 tanks in storage, but probably only 20% of them can be restored to be sent to war.

And that is why the Russian Federation is taking tanks from Belarus.

"About 20% of all available tanks are suitable for restoration of combat capability from Russian storage centers.
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The Katsaps are fucked. Tomorrow there will be even less. Its takes 7-10 days to organize their barages. Its been a week. They ran out of Iranian "mopeds" (Shaheeds) last week.
 
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They are firing shit produced in 2022 or buying from China and North Korea.
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What's wrong with a shell made in 2022? The ukrainians are pretty much down to firing himars made in 2022 - but the factories are pumping them out so what's the problem? I would imagine it's the same for the russians, They should be quite capable of pumping out shells and missiles etc at a pretty significant pace.
 
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Well we'll see i guess. If you're right they should be out of ammo for their artillery pretty soon so we'll see if that's the case.
 
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The_Foxer said:
Well we'll see i guess. If you're right they should be out of ammo for their artillery pretty soon so we'll see if that's the case.
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Yup. Hence the need for DPRK and Chinaman armaments. Do you think they can fly in enough from those two to keep up the 10-12-K a day rate of firing from spent guns that cant hit a target?

The Katsaps are fucked.
 
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The_Foxer said:
I have to say i'm not sure if i buy this "depeted rusisian stockpiles' thing all that much. For bigger items like tanks and such it makes some sense but things like missiles? I mean, the us and the allies are depleating their stocks too, so they just go to their industries and say "ramp it up, make us more". The russians have the industrial might and they know how to make 'em - early on when putin thought he could win in a week i totally get that they'd have been slow to ramp up but what on earth would be stopping them right now from having their facgtories pumping out missiles and rockets and ammo etc. And it's not hard to make a warhead for a missile.
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Like I said, corruption. Those guys make the corruption in the US military-industrial complex look downright amateurish.
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ANd i am TOTALLY not buying them sending their troops out with mosin's. Rifle practice during training MAYBE but c'mon. I'd need to see some hard core verifiable sources for that. They've been pumping out AK's by the billion since 1950. Coming up with 300 thousand for the new troops seems pretty doable.
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And they've been selling those AK's by the billion as well. And it's not like ALL of them are equipped with mosins, but the condition of the AK's some of them had was not good either. I mean an AK is a pretty damn durable, reliable weapon but you still have to take SOME care of it when it's in storage for long periods.
The_Foxer said:
I think that while the russians are short on a lot of things and critically short of some things, they're better off than some suggest. They appear to be doing a fair bit of offensive operations in the northern regions and they're not attacking with T-60's and mosins. And they are using a lot of artillery by all reports
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Yes, but what kind of artillery? Dumb munitions from field guns, or missiles?
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THe Ukrainians will win the war in the end but the idea that the russians are only fighting with ww2 eqipment when they have any equipment at al sounds implausible to me.
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Nobody said they were only fighting with WW2 equipment except you, just then. But even if it's being used to fill in the gaps that's still not a good scenario.
 
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