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LMFAO.

At the end of this Ukraine will make their own weapons in staggering volumes including nukes.
Assuming they have control of their own nuclear facilities. Karoline Leavitt expressed a U.S. interest in owning and operating Ukrainian nuclear power plants, saying that the two leaders had discussed the issue during their Wednesday call, ‘cuz freedom ain’t cheap, & the price seems to go up with every White House announcement.
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Anyway, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed Wednesday to a partial ceasefire with Russia focused on “energy and other civilian infrastructure.” Zelensky, who spoke after an hour-long phone call with President Donald Trump, said it is a first step in what the Ukrainian leader said he hoped would be “lasting peace” more than three years after his country was invaded by Moscow.🤞

The 30-day ceasefire would be the most concrete result yet of Trump’s effort to end the war in Ukraine. It comes a day after Trump had a lengthy conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin in an attempt to broker a deal and also to restore broader relations with the Kremlin, which have been mostly frozen since the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

The conversation between Trump and Zelensky and the timing was just the most recent evidence of how Ukraine has been relegated to the back seat in talks about its future. It came amid questions about whether Putin would live up to the commitments he made to Trump to stop strikes on Ukraine’s infrastructure — pledges that fell short of the full ceasefire that Trump was originally seeking.

“Just completed a very good telephone call with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “Much of the discussion was based on the call made yesterday with President Putin in order to align both Russia and Ukraine in terms of their requests and needs. We are very much on track.”
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Now… they just have to agree to the definition of the words cease-fire & partial.

Zelensky has been struggling to navigate a White House that has at times been openly hostile to him and friendlier to Putin. Trump last month called the democratically elected Zelensky a “dictator” and told him that “you don’t have the cards right now.” BWhite House officials continued their deferential approach to Putin on Wednesday, praising him for his willingness to discuss peace in Ukraine.

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff dismissed Ukrainian reports that Russian strikes on Ukrainian energy infrastructure continued overnight despite Putin’s claimed order to halt fire on those targets.

“President Putin issued an order within 10 minutes of his call with the president directing Russian forces not to be attacking any Ukrainian energy infrastructure,” Witkoff told Bloomberg TV on Wednesday. “Any attacks that happened last night would have happened before that order was given. In fact, the Russians tell me this morning that seven of their drones were on their way when President Putin issued his order, and they were shot down by Russian forces. So I tend to believe that President Putin is operating in good faith.”

Zelensky said Wednesday that there were extensive Russian attacks overnight, including on energy infrastructure.

Authorities said that one strike hit the eastern Ukrainian city of Slovyansk, damaging the city’s electricity grid. The regional prosecutor’s office said that the strike took place at 8:50 p.m. local time, more than two hours after the call ended. Regional police said that power lines and a gas pipeline were hit in the strike. But it wasn’t immediately clear whether they were deliberately targeted.

Russia’s broader attack on Ukraine continued after the call between Trump and Putin. Ukrainian authorities said 145 Russian drones attacked in the hours after the phone call. The attacks hit two hospitals in Ukraine’s Sumy region and destroyed nine homes in Bucha, on the outskirts of Kyiv.

Ukraine, meanwhile, hit an oil depot in Russia’s Krasnodar region, igniting a fire that more than 170 firefighters were dispatched to get under control in what the Russian Defense Ministry called a disruption of “peace initiatives.” Ukrainian leaders weren’t formally briefed on the Trump-Putin call until Wednesday.

Top officials in Kyiv expressed skepticism about whether Putin would live up to his side of the bargain.

“After the announcement of an ‘air truce,’ we didn’t give our air defense crews a break — we simply watched the clock. Less than an hour after #Putin supposedly agreed not to strike Ukraine’s energy infrastructure and had allegedly ‘issued the relevant orders,’ he attacked the energy infrastructure in eastern Ukraine,” Zelensky adviser Mikhailo Podolyak wrote on X. “The response to President #Trump’s peace initiatives was the arrival of 150 Shahed drones, built by Russians using Iranian blueprints, targeting civilian infrastructure.”
 

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Ottawa shooting victim fled war in Ukraine, left scarred by 'nightmare' on bus
Reilly Blanchard-Rivington, 21, was already under a court-ordered weapons prohibition when he shot Oksana Stepanenko on the bus.

Author of the article:Aedan Helmer
Published Mar 18, 2025 • Last updated 10 hours ago • 4 minute read

Oksana Stepanenko fled the war in Ukraine without a scratch, she told a judge earlier this month, but she was left with physical and emotional scars after she was shot by a pellet gun onboard an OC Transpo bus in an unprovoked attack in July 2024.


“I’m a newcomer from Ukraine who chose this country to start a new life. I wasn’t killed in Ukraine, where there is a war, but I was shot on a bus (in Ottawa),” she told the court in a victim impact statement.

“I ran away from war without any scars, but being shot on the bus has been a nightmare for me,” Stepanenko said.

Reilly Blanchard-Rivington, 21, was already under a court-ordered weapons prohibition when he shot Stepanenko on the bus as it travelled through downtown Ottawa on July 25, 2024.

Blanchard-Rivington pleaded guilty in November to three of the 14 charges he initially faced, including assault causing bodily harm, recklessly discharging his Glock 19 air pistol and breaching the prior court-ordered ban on possessing weapons.


He had been under a weapons prohibition since December 2023 related to prior criminal charges and was released in May 2024 under the same weapons prohibition. He was also under a probation order at the time and was instructed to keep the peace and be of good behaviour, according to Assistant Crown attorney Vanessa Purdie.

Purdie said his guilty plea was a mitigating factor as the Crown called for a sentence of four-and-a-half years in prison during a sentencing hearing on March 6.

Purdie said Stepanenko’s “devastating” victim impact statement was an aggravating factor. The Crown also listed Blanchard-Rivington’s “recent and escalating” criminal record as an aggravating factor and pointed to his previous instances of disobeying court orders.


Blanchard-Rivington chose to arm himself with the Glock air pistol that day as he and a group of friends were “seeking revenge” on another associate.

He shot Stepanenko in an unrelated and “unprovoked” attack onboard the OC Transpo bus.

“There was no hesitation. This was a split-second decision made out of anger and annoyance,” Purdie told the judge.

During her victim impact statement, Stepanenko said she was heading out to do some shopping that evening and was sitting at the back of the bus when Blanchard-Rivington and a group of friends boarded and began playing loud music on a portable speaker.

Blanchard-Rivington was dressed in all-black with a black face mask and backpack, according to the agreed statement of facts filed to support his guilty plea.


Stepanenko asked Blanchard-Rivington and his friends to turn down the volume on their music on multiple occasions, but they refused, she told the court.

She made her way to the front of the bus to report the behaviour to the driver, who told Stepanenko a special constable would be boarding the bus at an upcoming stop to resolve the dispute.

Blanchard-Rivington’s friends exited the bus, but he remained onboard as Stepanenko made her way back to her seat.

She was carrying her phone in front of her body and Blanchard-Rivington accused her of filming him, which she denied.

Without warning, he promptly produced the air gun from his backpack and fired one pellet into her right knee.

“I’m from Ukraine and, of course, for me, I was scared to see a person in a mask,” Stepanenko said. “My phone was in front of my body and he thought I was filming him. He started to yell at me and swear and insult me … he wanted to grab my phone.


“He took a gun out and he shot me.”

Blanchard-Rivington fled the bus and led police on a brief foot pursuit before he was arrested on Elgin Street.

The air gun looks and sounds identical to a real firearm, the Crown said, and Stepanenko didn’t know at the time that she had been shot by an imitation air gun.

“The gun tests as a firearm, it looks like a firearm, and (Blanchard-Rivington) was possessing it to exact revenge,” Purdie said.

The gun was tested and had an average velocity of 394 feet-per-second, Purdie told the court.

“It is a barrelled weapon capable of inflicting serious bodily injury or death,” Purdie said, and is a known firearm as classified by the RCMP firearms table.

Stepanenko eventually had surgery to remove the pellet from her knee and continues to experience pain around the five-centimetre scar.


“I’m in physical pain and discomfort all the time,” she said, describing a sensation “like pins and needles” around the scar.

She still suffers from anxiety and panic attacks, she told the judge.

“I stopped social activities, I still have trauma,” she said. “I always choose a safe spot on the bus and don’t make eye contact (with anyone).”

The shooting left her feeling “totally vulnerable,” Stepanenko said, and she fears for her safety once Blanchard-Rivington is released from incarceration.

Blanchard-Rivington stood up in the courtroom and apologized to the woman “for the trauma I’ve caused. I wish I could take it all back,” he said on March 6.

Blanchard-Rivington’s defence lawyer, Jonathan Nadler, countered with a proposed two-year sentence with two additional years of probation.

Ontario Court Justice Jacqueline Loignon was scheduled to render a sentence on March 14, but that hearing was delayed until March 26.

ahelmer@postmedia.com
 
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French politician calls for return of Statue of Liberty, White House says 'absolutely not'
Raphael Glucksmann says the U.S. is no longer worthy of the monument, which was a gift from France nearly 140 years ago

Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
John Leicester
Published Mar 18, 2025 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

PARIS — Hey, America: Give the Statue of Liberty back to France.


So says a French politician who is making headlines in his country for suggesting that the U.S. is no longer worthy of the monument, which was a gift from France nearly 140 years ago.

Raphael Glucksmann, as a member of the European Parliament and co-president of a small left-wing party in France, can’t claim to speak for all of his compatriots.

But his assertion in a speech this weekend that some Americans “have chosen to switch to the side of the tyrants” reflects the broad shockwaves that U.S. President Donald Trump’s seismic shifts in foreign and domestic policy are triggering in France and elsewhere in Europe.

“Give us back the Statue of Liberty,” Glucksmann told supporters of his Public Place party, who applauded and whistled, on Sunday.


“It was our gift to you. But apparently you despise her. So she will be happy here with us,” Glucksmann said.


The White House brushed back on the comments Monday, saying France instead should still be “grateful” for U.S. support during World War I and World War II. Glucksmann, in turn, then shot back that French gratitude for Americans’ wartime sacrifices is “eternal,” but added: “If the free world no longer interests your government, then we will take up the torch, here in Europe.”

“No one, of course, will come and steal the Statue of Liberty,” he wrote in X posts. “The statue is yours. But what it embodies belongs to everyone.”

Can France claim it back?
Dream on.

UNESCO, the United Nations’ cultural arm that has the statue on its list of World Heritage treasures, notes that the iconic monument is U.S. government property.


It was initially envisaged as a monumental gesture of French-American friendship to mark the 100th anniversary of the July 4, 1776, Declaration of Independence.

But a war that erupted in 1870 between France and German states led by Prussia diverted the energies of the monument’s designer, French sculptor Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi.

The gift also took time to be funded, with a decision made that the French would pay for the statue and Americans would cover the costs of its pedestal.

Transported in 350 pieces from France, the statue was officially unveiled on Oct. 28, 1886.

Is France’s government offering asylum to Lady Liberty?
No. French-U.S. relations would have to drop off a cliff before Glucksmann found support from French President Emmanuel Macron’s government.


For the moment, the French president is treading a fine line _ trying to work with Trump and temper some of his policy shifts on the one hand, but also pushing back hard against some White House decisions, notably Trump’s tariff hikes.

Macron has let his prime minister, Francois Bayrou, play the role of being a more critical voice. Bayrou tore into the “brutality” that was shown to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during his White House visit and suggested that Trump’s administration risked handing victory to Russia when it paused military aid to Ukraine.

Glucksmann’s party has been even more critical, posting accusations on its website that Trump is wielding power in an “authoritarian” manner and is “preparing to deliver Ukraine on a silver platter” to Russia.


In his speech, Glucksmann referenced New York poet Emma Lazarus’ words about the statue, the “mighty woman with a torch” who promised a home for the “huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

“Today, this land is ceasing to be what it was,” Glucksmann said.

What is the White House saying?
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt was asked Monday about Glucksmann’s comments, and responded that the U.S. would “absolutely not” be parting with the landmark in New York Harbor.

“My advice to that unnamed low-level French politician would be to remind them that it’s only because of the United States of America that the French are not speaking German right now,” Leavitt said, apparently referencing the U.S. fight with Allied powers to free France from Nazi occupation during World War II and alongside France during World War I. “They should be very grateful.”

But the debt of gratitude runs both ways. Leavitt skipped past France’s key role in supporting the future United States during its war for independence from the United Kingdom.

In his subsequent follow-up, Glucksmann said that his call for Lady Liberty to travel back across the Atlantic to France had been intended as “a wake-up call.”

“We all in Europe love this nation to which we know we owe so much,” he posted. “It will rise again. You will rise again. We are counting on you.”
 
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French politician calls for return of Statue of Liberty, White House says 'absolutely not'
Raphael Glucksmann says the U.S. is no longer worthy of the monument, which was a gift from France nearly 140 years ago

Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
John Leicester
Published Mar 18, 2025 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

PARIS — Hey, America: Give the Statue of Liberty back to France.


So says a French politician who is making headlines in his country for suggesting that the U.S. is no longer worthy of the monument, which was a gift from France nearly 140 years ago.

Raphael Glucksmann, as a member of the European Parliament and co-president of a small left-wing party in France, can’t claim to speak for all of his compatriots.

But his assertion in a speech this weekend that some Americans “have chosen to switch to the side of the tyrants” reflects the broad shockwaves that U.S. President Donald Trump’s seismic shifts in foreign and domestic policy are triggering in France and elsewhere in Europe.

“Give us back the Statue of Liberty,” Glucksmann told supporters of his Public Place party, who applauded and whistled, on Sunday.


“It was our gift to you. But apparently you despise her. So she will be happy here with us,” Glucksmann said.


The White House brushed back on the comments Monday, saying France instead should still be “grateful” for U.S. support during World War I and World War II. Glucksmann, in turn, then shot back that French gratitude for Americans’ wartime sacrifices is “eternal,” but added: “If the free world no longer interests your government, then we will take up the torch, here in Europe.”

“No one, of course, will come and steal the Statue of Liberty,” he wrote in X posts. “The statue is yours. But what it embodies belongs to everyone.”

Can France claim it back?
Dream on.

UNESCO, the United Nations’ cultural arm that has the statue on its list of World Heritage treasures, notes that the iconic monument is U.S. government property.


It was initially envisaged as a monumental gesture of French-American friendship to mark the 100th anniversary of the July 4, 1776, Declaration of Independence.

But a war that erupted in 1870 between France and German states led by Prussia diverted the energies of the monument’s designer, French sculptor Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi.

The gift also took time to be funded, with a decision made that the French would pay for the statue and Americans would cover the costs of its pedestal.

Transported in 350 pieces from France, the statue was officially unveiled on Oct. 28, 1886.

Is France’s government offering asylum to Lady Liberty?
No. French-U.S. relations would have to drop off a cliff before Glucksmann found support from French President Emmanuel Macron’s government.


For the moment, the French president is treading a fine line _ trying to work with Trump and temper some of his policy shifts on the one hand, but also pushing back hard against some White House decisions, notably Trump’s tariff hikes.

Macron has let his prime minister, Francois Bayrou, play the role of being a more critical voice. Bayrou tore into the “brutality” that was shown to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during his White House visit and suggested that Trump’s administration risked handing victory to Russia when it paused military aid to Ukraine.

Glucksmann’s party has been even more critical, posting accusations on its website that Trump is wielding power in an “authoritarian” manner and is “preparing to deliver Ukraine on a silver platter” to Russia.


In his speech, Glucksmann referenced New York poet Emma Lazarus’ words about the statue, the “mighty woman with a torch” who promised a home for the “huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

“Today, this land is ceasing to be what it was,” Glucksmann said.

What is the White House saying?
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt was asked Monday about Glucksmann’s comments, and responded that the U.S. would “absolutely not” be parting with the landmark in New York Harbor.

“My advice to that unnamed low-level French politician would be to remind them that it’s only because of the United States of America that the French are not speaking German right now,” Leavitt said, apparently referencing the U.S. fight with Allied powers to free France from Nazi occupation during World War II and alongside France during World War I. “They should be very grateful.”

But the debt of gratitude runs both ways. Leavitt skipped past France’s key role in supporting the future United States during its war for independence from the United Kingdom.

In his subsequent follow-up, Glucksmann said that his call for Lady Liberty to travel back across the Atlantic to France had been intended as “a wake-up call.”

“We all in Europe love this nation to which we know we owe so much,” he posted. “It will rise again. You will rise again. We are counting on you.”
That old slut? Lady Liberty...close your legs, you smell like low tide.
 

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White House has ‘moved beyond’ minerals deal; Zelenskyy expects ceasefire deal to cover civilian as well as energy infrastructure. What we know on day 1,121 of Russia’s 3 day war on Ukraine:

Donald Trump told Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday that the US could own and run Ukrainian nuclear power plants as part of a ceasefire.
(Notice the “s” at the end of the word plants above, as in plural)
 

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White House has ‘moved beyond’ minerals deal; Zelenskyy expects ceasefire deal to cover civilian as well as energy infrastructure. What we know on day 1,121 of Russia’s 3 day war on Ukraine:

Donald Trump told Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday that the US could own and run Ukrainian nuclear power plants as part of a ceasefire.
(Notice the “s” at the end of the word plants above, as in plural)
What does Ukraine get?
 
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White House has ‘moved beyond’ minerals deal; Zelenskyy expects ceasefire deal to cover civilian as well as energy infrastructure. What we know on day 1,121 of Russia’s 3 day war on Ukraine:

Donald Trump told Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday that the US could own and run Ukrainian nuclear power plants as part of a ceasefire.
(Notice the “s” at the end of the word plants above, as in plural)
Interesting a reactor that can power 1/2 of Europe must be a pretty sweet deal especially since it's presently under Russian control
 

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Interesting a reactor that can power 1/2 of Europe must be a pretty sweet deal especially since it's presently under Russian control
That one is.
What does Ukraine get?
Peace between the tug of war over its resources between Russia & America? Maybe it becomes the 52nd state? Ukraine gets to become 25% smaller and gets a large mortgage thrown on the other 75% into perpetuity? Ukraine gets to guarantee to Russia that it will not rearm? Something along those lines?
 
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Ottawa shooting victim fled war in Ukraine, left scarred by 'nightmare' on bus
Reilly Blanchard-Rivington, 21, was already under a court-ordered weapons prohibition when he shot Oksana Stepanenko on the bus.

Author of the article:Aedan Helmer
Published Mar 18, 2025 • Last updated 10 hours ago • 4 minute read

Oksana Stepanenko fled the war in Ukraine without a scratch, she told a judge earlier this month, but she was left with physical and emotional scars after she was shot by a pellet gun onboard an OC Transpo bus in an unprovoked attack in July 2024.


“I’m a newcomer from Ukraine who chose this country to start a new life. I wasn’t killed in Ukraine, where there is a war, but I was shot on a bus (in Ottawa),” she told the court in a victim impact statement.

“I ran away from war without any scars, but being shot on the bus has been a nightmare for me,” Stepanenko said.

Reilly Blanchard-Rivington, 21, was already under a court-ordered weapons prohibition when he shot Stepanenko on the bus as it travelled through downtown Ottawa on July 25, 2024.

Blanchard-Rivington pleaded guilty in November to three of the 14 charges he initially faced, including assault causing bodily harm, recklessly discharging his Glock 19 air pistol and breaching the prior court-ordered ban on possessing weapons.


He had been under a weapons prohibition since December 2023 related to prior criminal charges and was released in May 2024 under the same weapons prohibition. He was also under a probation order at the time and was instructed to keep the peace and be of good behaviour, according to Assistant Crown attorney Vanessa Purdie.

Purdie said his guilty plea was a mitigating factor as the Crown called for a sentence of four-and-a-half years in prison during a sentencing hearing on March 6.

Purdie said Stepanenko’s “devastating” victim impact statement was an aggravating factor. The Crown also listed Blanchard-Rivington’s “recent and escalating” criminal record as an aggravating factor and pointed to his previous instances of disobeying court orders.


Blanchard-Rivington chose to arm himself with the Glock air pistol that day as he and a group of friends were “seeking revenge” on another associate.

He shot Stepanenko in an unrelated and “unprovoked” attack onboard the OC Transpo bus.

“There was no hesitation. This was a split-second decision made out of anger and annoyance,” Purdie told the judge.

During her victim impact statement, Stepanenko said she was heading out to do some shopping that evening and was sitting at the back of the bus when Blanchard-Rivington and a group of friends boarded and began playing loud music on a portable speaker.

Blanchard-Rivington was dressed in all-black with a black face mask and backpack, according to the agreed statement of facts filed to support his guilty plea.


Stepanenko asked Blanchard-Rivington and his friends to turn down the volume on their music on multiple occasions, but they refused, she told the court.

She made her way to the front of the bus to report the behaviour to the driver, who told Stepanenko a special constable would be boarding the bus at an upcoming stop to resolve the dispute.

Blanchard-Rivington’s friends exited the bus, but he remained onboard as Stepanenko made her way back to her seat.

She was carrying her phone in front of her body and Blanchard-Rivington accused her of filming him, which she denied.

Without warning, he promptly produced the air gun from his backpack and fired one pellet into her right knee.

“I’m from Ukraine and, of course, for me, I was scared to see a person in a mask,” Stepanenko said. “My phone was in front of my body and he thought I was filming him. He started to yell at me and swear and insult me … he wanted to grab my phone.


“He took a gun out and he shot me.”

Blanchard-Rivington fled the bus and led police on a brief foot pursuit before he was arrested on Elgin Street.

The air gun looks and sounds identical to a real firearm, the Crown said, and Stepanenko didn’t know at the time that she had been shot by an imitation air gun.

“The gun tests as a firearm, it looks like a firearm, and (Blanchard-Rivington) was possessing it to exact revenge,” Purdie said.

The gun was tested and had an average velocity of 394 feet-per-second, Purdie told the court.

“It is a barrelled weapon capable of inflicting serious bodily injury or death,” Purdie said, and is a known firearm as classified by the RCMP firearms table.

Stepanenko eventually had surgery to remove the pellet from her knee and continues to experience pain around the five-centimetre scar.


“I’m in physical pain and discomfort all the time,” she said, describing a sensation “like pins and needles” around the scar.

She still suffers from anxiety and panic attacks, she told the judge.

“I stopped social activities, I still have trauma,” she said. “I always choose a safe spot on the bus and don’t make eye contact (with anyone).”

The shooting left her feeling “totally vulnerable,” Stepanenko said, and she fears for her safety once Blanchard-Rivington is released from incarceration.

Blanchard-Rivington stood up in the courtroom and apologized to the woman “for the trauma I’ve caused. I wish I could take it all back,” he said on March 6.

Blanchard-Rivington’s defence lawyer, Jonathan Nadler, countered with a proposed two-year sentence with two additional years of probation.

Ontario Court Justice Jacqueline Loignon was scheduled to render a sentence on March 14, but that hearing was delayed until March 26.

ahelmer@postmedia.com
Not near enough jail time.
 
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Peace between the tug of war over its resources between Russia & America? Maybe it becomes the 52nd state? Ukraine gets to become 25% smaller and gets a large mortgage thrown on the other 75% into perpetuity? Ukraine gets to guarantee to Russia that it will not rearm? Something along those lines?
(YouTube & Trump hasn’t ‘remotely thought through’ what a war with Canada would look like | The Trump Report)

The first several minutes above is about Russia and Ukraine and Trump…& China.

(It also mentions later on that Canada has never lost a war, & Every time Canada goes to war, they have to update the Geneva convention, but I’m putting this here because of the Ukraine end of things)
 
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·20h
Key Outcomes of the Agreements in Saudi Arabia:
1. All parties agreed to ensure safe navigation (shipping), cease the use of force, and prevent the use of commercial vessels for military purposes in the Black Sea.
2. All parties agreed to implement commitments for a complete ban on strikes against the energy infrastructure of both Ukraine and Russia.
3. All parties welcomed the involvement of third countries to support the implementation of energy and maritime agreements.
4. All parties will continue working toward achieving a stable and lasting peace.
5. The U.S. reaffirmed its support in facilitating the exchange of prisoners of war, the release of detained civilians, and the return of forcibly deported Ukrainian children. If Russia violates these commitments, Ukraine will have the full right to exercise its right to self-defense, emphasized Ukraine's Minister of Defense, Umerov.
 

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Key Outcomes of the Agreements in Saudi Arabia:
1. All parties agreed to ensure safe navigation (shipping), cease the use of force, and prevent the use of commercial vessels for military purposes in the Black Sea.
2. All parties agreed to implement commitments for a complete ban on strikes against the energy infrastructure of both Ukraine and Russia.
3. All parties welcomed the involvement of third countries to support the implementation of energy and maritime agreements.
4. All parties will continue working toward achieving a stable and lasting peace.
5. The U.S. reaffirmed its support in facilitating the exchange of prisoners of war, the release of detained civilians, and the return of forcibly deported Ukrainian children. If Russia violates these commitments, Ukraine will have the full right to exercise its right to self-defense, emphasized Ukraine's Minister of Defense, Umerov.

After what was just released about Whiskeygate, no one in the world should EVER work with the US again.
 

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After what was just released about Whiskeygate, no one in the world should EVER work with the US again.
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·Mar 25
Let me summarize for those new to the performance.
(1) The CIA special ops group, organized the Signal App operation. That's how Goldberg got in.
(2) Jeffrey Goldberg held the story until the day before the scheduled SSCI hearing.
(3) The SSCI uses the hearing to attack the Trump officials at the top of the critical silos.
Why? The CIA black ops group doesn't like the Trump Ukraine and Trump Russia policy. Watch. You'll see.
 
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·Mar 25
Let me summarize for those new to the performance.
(1) The CIA special ops group, organized the Signal App operation. That's how Goldberg got in.
(2) Jeffrey Goldberg held the story until the day before the scheduled SSCI hearing.
(3) The SSCI uses the hearing to attack the Trump officials at the top of the critical silos.
Why? The CIA black ops group doesn't like the Trump Ukraine and Trump Russia policy. Watch. You'll see.
Rewind to June l944. Think of the subterfuge it took to amass an allied invasion of France without the Axis knowing.

If they had even the slightest inkling, Hitler wouldn't have slept through it.
 
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·Mar 25
Let me summarize for those new to the performance.
(1) The CIA special ops group, organized the Signal App operation. That's how Goldberg got in.
(2) Jeffrey Goldberg held the story until the day before the scheduled SSCI hearing.
(3) The SSCI uses the hearing to attack the Trump officials at the top of the critical silos.
Why? The CIA black ops group doesn't like the Trump Ukraine and Trump Russia policy. Watch. You'll see.

Ah, the excuses!

Does not change the actual fact that 1. there was someone NOT PRIVY TO THIS LEVEL OF INFO involved.
2. It was NOT ON A SECURE 'CHAT'.
3. One of the participants WAS IN RUSSIA.

That there are people making excuses for this MASSIVE kind of fuck up - that would be career ending if not ending with people in jail - is just disgusting but also not terribly shocking.
 

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Ah, the excuses!

Does not change the actual fact that 1. there was someone NOT PRIVY TO THIS LEVEL OF INFO involved.
2. It was NOT ON A SECURE 'CHAT'.
3. One of the participants WAS IN RUSSIA.

That there are people making excuses for this MASSIVE kind of fuck up - that would be career ending if not ending with people in jail - is just disgusting but also not terribly shocking.
I think Pete covered it. . . first 2 1/2 minutes.

 
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