Omnibus Russia Ukraine crisis

[Ron in Regina]

Yup. It rallied more support for Zelenskyy and Ukraine did it not? Was it not the ballsiest thing from Zelenskyy to date? It's kinda hard not to respect him even if you don't like him.

What about America? I don’t mean Trump’s America, but the respect that America has gathered for the last 150 years or so? That seems to be going out the window in the last several weeks. Does that mean anything?

 

[petros]

What about America? I don’t mean Trump’s America, but the respect that America has gathered for the last 150 years or so? That seems to be going out the window in the last several weeks. Does that mean anything?

When was America truly respected. Feared and ass kissed plenty but truly respected, not a lot. Even before Trump America was ridiculed for having a semi lucid leader. It's always something.

This incident though? It was a message. TV feed would have been cut if this wasn't deliberate a display.

 

[pgs]

Vladonald Putrump strikes again.

To a point I see what Trump is doing. The more isolated Russia becomes, the closer and more dependent Bedpan will be on China and to a lesser extent North Korea. The LAST thing the world needs is a China-dependent Russia or a true Russia-China alliance that's more than just a transparent attempt to put up a united front against the US and the West without any real friendship between them.

Having said that, kissing up to a murderous dictator who started the war while publicly acting like a complete dick to the victim(s) isn't going to win you any friends, even outside of Ukraine. Well, except for Bedpan of course.

The Trumpty Dumpster is burning the US down. His global tariffs are only going to hurt the US, especially when he tariffs shit the US doesn't produce or produce enough of to meet domestic demand. When I said 'only' I didn't mean only the US would hurt, I meant that if all the other countries he's tariffing engage in reciprocal tariffs, things is gonna get kind'a pricey for the American consumer.

Questions Donnie-boy needs to ask himself and then ask someone who actually knows the answers.
1) Does the US produce enough steel and aluminum in-house? And can they?
2) Can the US build a car from start to finish solely in the US right now? And can they build enough to meet domestic demand?
3) Can the US grow all the food it needs to feed itself? Land-wise I'd say yes. Actual usage and farm labour? Probably not.
4) Can the US mine all the minerals it needs without turning the place into Mordor? When it comes to REEs it's kind'a obvious they can't, or simply don't want to pay the exorbitant environmental cost to their own country.
5) Does the US currently have the capability to manufacture computers and phones? Last time I heard, it didn't.
6) Etc etc.

On the other hand, I have noticed that most, if not all the countries being tariffed have allowed Chinese companies to operate within them. In fact a couple of Chinese automakers have purchased auto plants in EU countries that European automakers shut down. Building cars in the EU would let China get their cars into the US thus circumventing the tariff/ban on Chinese EVs since they were made in the EU.
There's a couple of Chinese (non-automotive) facilities in Mexico that don't even fucking hire Mexicans. They import migrant Chinese labour using the same BS they tried in Canada with their stupid coal mine. "Can't find qualified/experienced workers in country so we need to import our own." Guess which market those cheap shit goods are intended for?

China also keeps trying to buy up US farmland that's near US military bases and facilities. I mean I get Trump's anti-China stance, I'm right there with him, but to publicly treat Zelensky and, by extension, Ukraine like shit because he's trying to woo Bedpan away from Xinnie the Pooh is fucking horrible optics, man.

Yes I love it when people come into my house and start a fight .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yes I love it when people come into my house and start a fight .

Gets kinda expensive in terms of glassware, but the entertainment's first-rate!

 

[Ron in Regina]

When was America truly respected. Feared and ass kissed plenty but truly respected, not a lot. Even before Trump America was ridiculed for having a semi lucid leader. It's always something.

This incident though? It was a message. TV feed would have been cut if this wasn't deliberate a display.

I respected it, & still do. Not its leadership, but itself as an entity, neighbour, trade partner, ally, national friend, travel destination, & in the industry I’m in I have many American friends. Trump is burning bridges so damn fast. It’s not even funny.

 

[pgs]

The moment he pulled his 51st state crap, I was done. I mean if he wanted to take shots at Trudeau that's fine, but don't threaten a Canadian with turning them into an American, even if you're "just joking". We don't see the humour in it. If I wanted to be an American I would have moved to the US. I had a couple of opportunities to but nah. Don't mind visiting, don't wanna live there.

Good for you . A proud Canadian . Now tell me what there is to be proud of ? In the two world wars our service members fought above our weight , now we have like2500 soldiers , two ships and some thirty year old jets .
How about our great Canadian healthcare with some 25,000 people dying on wait lists every year . But it is free if you don’t count the fifty plus % of your monetpaid to taxes .
And good luck trying to find a doctor .
Our government calls an emergency to quash peaceful protesters.
Our government poroques parliment to hide from questions .
Inter provincial trade barriers .
Equalization payments .
Quebec .
Shall I go on ?.

 

[Twin_Moose]

H'mm still mad bro?

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BREAKING: Zelensky says he is grateful to the United States for all the support and thankful to President Trump.

 

[pgs]

I respected it, & still do. Not its leadership, but itself as an entity, neighbour, trade partner, ally, national friend, travel destination, & in the industry I’m in I have many American friends. Trump is burning bridges so damn fast. It’s not even funny.

So Trump is coming between you and your American friends ? Has your business collapsed yet ?

 

[petros]

I respected it, & still do. Not its leadership, but itself as an entity, neighbour, trade partner, ally, national friend, travel destination, & in the industry I’m in I have many American friends. Trump is burning bridges so damn fast. It’s not even funny.

I like the people, the scenery and the innovative achievements.

 

[Ron in Regina]

So Trump is coming between you and your American friends ? Has your business collapsed yet ?

Wow…I’m not sure where to start here.

I’ve been in this business for quite some time, & when the 2008/2009 housing crisis hit (in the US, but it ripple globally), this company went from 50+ trucks to 4. America is very protectionist. I went first plumbing for a year (there’s a reason why there’s not too many 6 foot plus plumbers), and then gravel crushing for several years until the economy got their feet back under them.

I’ve been back in the trucking industry for the better part of a decade, but I’ve seen it stumble before over economic issues that affected both countries.

Real friendships don’t fall out over politics, but business relationships stumble over economic reasons.

Not every business that went into Covid came out the other side. The same will happen if these tariffs happen. Those who have a business model based on international trade or the shipping of those commodities will be the Canaries in the coal mine.

Most of the people that I consider friends in America are in Indiana, which happens to lean greatly towards Republicans, not that that makes any difference.

I like the people, the scenery and the innovative achievements.

You weren’t talking about semi retiring to India recently.

 

[petros]

You weren’t talking about semi retiring to India recently.

One end of the Prairie to the other. There is very little difference other than warmer.

 

[pgs]

Wow…I’m not sure where to start here.

I’ve been in this business for quite some time, & when the 2008/2009 housing crisis hit (in the US, but it ripple globally), this company went from 50+ trucks to 4. America is very protectionist. I went first plumbing for a year (there’s a reason why there’s not too many 6 foot plus plumbers), and then gravel crushing for several years until the economy got their feet back under them.

I’ve been back in the trucking industry for the better part of a decade, but I’ve seen it stumble before over economic issues that affected both countries.

Real friendships don’t fall out over politics, but business relationships stumble over economic reasons.

Not every business that went into Covid came out the other side. The same will happen if these tariffs happen. Those who have a business model based on international trade or the shipping of those commodities will be the Canaries in the coal mine.

Most of the people that I consider friends in America are in Indiana, which happens to lean greatly towards Republicans, not that that makes any difference.
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You weren’t talking about semi retiring to India recently.

So life pretty much rolls along , some ups some downs . Best just to throw hands in the air and laugh .

 

[Jinentonix]

Good for you . A proud Canadian . Now tell me what there is to be proud of ? In the two world wars our service members fought above our weight , now we have like2500 soldiers , two ships and some thirty year old jets .
How about our great Canadian healthcare with some 25,000 people dying on wait lists every year . But it is free if you don’t count the fifty plus % of your monetpaid to taxes .
And good luck trying to find a doctor .
Our government calls an emergency to quash peaceful protesters.
Our government poroques parliment to hide from questions .
Inter provincial trade barriers .
Equalization payments .
Quebec .
Shall I go on ?.

So when ya moving to the US, bud? As for health care sure, the US has the best health care in the world, if you can afford to access it. Good even luck affording a family doctor. Private insurers happily taking premiums but then won't cover you because some procedure is too expensive and they don't wanna pony up.
The US govt protected the violent rioters of 2020 from prosecution.
The US is so busy going fucking bonkers with DOGE they're firing essential personnel.
Tariff happy morons.
Betrays its allies
Thinks trade deficits are subsidies
California.
Need I go on? I think I will. Some fucking moron who renegotiated the trade agreement LAST time he was president whining about how Canada is taking advantage the US in trade and wants to either punish us or annex us because of his own pathetic incompetence.

 

[pgs]

So when ya moving to the US, bud? As for health care sure, the US has the best health care in the world, if you can afford to access it. Good even luck affording a family doctor. Private insurers happily taking premiums but then won't cover you because some procedure is too expensive and they don't wanna pony up.
The US govt protected the violent rioters of 2020 from prosecution.
The US is so busy going fucking bonkers with DOGE they're firing essential personnel.
Tariff happy morons.
Betrays its allies
Thinks trade deficits are subsidies
California.
Need I go on? I think I will. Some fucking moron who renegotiated the trade agreement LAST time he was president whining about how Canada is taking advantage the US in trade and wants to either punish us or annex us because of his own pathetic incompetence.

I would rather get timely health care and be broke , not die on a waiting list . But if all Canada has is health care we are a piss poor excuse for a country . It will be past my time but Canada will not last the century without fracturing . Probably not even to the half way mark .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So when ya moving to the US, bud? As for health care sure, the US has the best health care in the world, if you can afford to access it.

Yep. The top end is the best in the world, and we do great boob jobs.

And we're 69th on the list of healthy countries.

 

[Taxslave2]

Vladonald Putrump strikes again.

To a point I see what Trump is doing. The more isolated Russia becomes, the closer and more dependent Bedpan will be on China and to a lesser extent North Korea. The LAST thing the world needs is a China-dependent Russia or a true Russia-China alliance that's more than just a transparent attempt to put up a united front against the US and the West without any real friendship between them.

Having said that, kissing up to a murderous dictator who started the war while publicly acting like a complete dick to the victim(s) isn't going to win you any friends, even outside of Ukraine. Well, except for Bedpan of course.

The Trumpty Dumpster is burning the US down. His global tariffs are only going to hurt the US, especially when he tariffs shit the US doesn't produce or produce enough of to meet domestic demand. When I said 'only' I didn't mean only the US would hurt, I meant that if all the other countries he's tariffing engage in reciprocal tariffs, things is gonna get kind'a pricey for the American consumer.

Questions Donnie-boy needs to ask himself and then ask someone who actually knows the answers.
1) Does the US produce enough steel and aluminum in-house? And can they?
2) Can the US build a car from start to finish solely in the US right now? And can they build enough to meet domestic demand?
3) Can the US grow all the food it needs to feed itself? Land-wise I'd say yes. Actual usage and farm labour? Probably not.
4) Can the US mine all the minerals it needs without turning the place into Mordor? When it comes to REEs it's kind'a obvious they can't, or simply don't want to pay the exorbitant environmental cost to their own country.
5) Does the US currently have the capability to manufacture computers and phones? Last time I heard, it didn't.
6) Etc etc.

On the other hand, I have noticed that most, if not all the countries being tariffed have allowed Chinese companies to operate within them. In fact a couple of Chinese automakers have purchased auto plants in EU countries that European automakers shut down. Building cars in the EU would let China get their cars into the US thus circumventing the tariff/ban on Chinese EVs since they were made in the EU.
There's a couple of Chinese (non-automotive) facilities in Mexico that don't even fucking hire Mexicans. They import migrant Chinese labour using the same BS they tried in Canada with their stupid coal mine. "Can't find qualified/experienced workers in country so we need to import our own." Guess which market those cheap shit goods are intended for?

China also keeps trying to buy up US farmland that's near US military bases and facilities. I mean I get Trump's anti-China stance, I'm right there with him, but to publicly treat Zelensky and, by extension, Ukraine like shit because he's trying to woo Bedpan away from Xinnie the Pooh is fucking horrible optics, man.

I am wondering how much of this has to do with Hunter Biden?

 

[Taxslave2]

Why so glum, chum? This is what Canadian conservatives, on this board anyhow, have been hoping and praying for.

Y'know, "He tells it like it is!"

Most of us were hoping Trump would fix the damage leftish governments have inflicted on the US. Especially the massive debt, which is an economic threat to the whole world. TBF, Republicans over the last couple of decades have not done enough to cut spending either. Federal, State, Municipal. I'm no longer even sure the politicians are even in control. It looks like bureaucraps and special interest groups are ruining the show.

 

[Taxslave2]

One end of the Prairie to the other. There is very little difference other than warmer.

Delta and Richmond.

 

[pgs]

Delta and Richmond.

Sumas and Agassiz .

 

[Serryah]

Most of us were hoping Trump would fix the damage leftish governments have inflicted on the US. Especially the massive debt, which is an economic threat to the whole world. TBF, Republicans over the last couple of decades have not done enough to cut spending either. Federal, State, Municipal. I'm no longer even sure the politicians are even in control. It looks like bureaucraps and special interest groups are ruining the show.

But, but, that's what Trump is doing with Musk! They're cutting ALL the spending! And it's all going back to the taxpayers!

They said so, so it has to be true!