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Serryah

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Anything but wind or solar. Those are both dead ends for mainstream commercial-scale power generation. Or EVs. The world is starting to revolt against them already.

Maybe dead end for commercial, but around here with our winds, it's great for residential. Sadly NB doesn't do wind that much yet right across the border in Amherst NS, they've got a good sized wind farm on the marsh that helps the local town grid. And they did solar a couple years ago too.
 

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Maybe dead end for commercial, but around here with our winds, it's great for residential. Sadly NB doesn't do wind that much yet right across the border in Amherst NS, they've got a good sized wind farm on the marsh that helps the local town grid. And they did solar a couple years ago too.
Patience. He's gradually moving from OIL! OIL! OIL! to the notion that there are other ways to generate electricity. There is always the chance that, before he dies, he'll actually come around to "There are a lot of different ways to generate electricity. Use the one(s) that best apply to your area."

Some people are capable of seeing sense, if you write it in Braille and shove it up their asses.
 
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Maybe dead end for commercial, but around here with our winds, it's great for residential. Sadly NB doesn't do wind that much yet right across the border in Amherst NS, they've got a good sized wind farm on the marsh that helps the local town grid. And they did solar a couple years ago too.
They are not as great as the pushers would like you to believe. Location might be a lot of the problem. The ones on Northern Vancouver Island, which were put there largely to appease the local native bands do not like salt air. They do the aluminum equivalent of rust. At 5 years all the blades had to be replaced. The only place to dispose of them is a landfill.
Maybe if engineering instead of politics decided location things would be different. Depends on how you feel about bird kill.
 
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Serryah

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They are not as great as the pushers would like you to believe. Location might be a lot of the problem. The ones on Northern Vancouver Island, which were put there largely to appease the local native bands do not like salt air. They do the aluminum equivalent of rust. At 5 years all the blades had to be replaced. The only place to dispose of them is a landfill.
Maybe if engineering instead of politics decided location things would be different. Depends on how you feel about bird kill.

Likely location. The one in Amherst is on the marsh (or bought/rented farmland) though and gets wind almost daily so it's able to product. It's been going since 2012 and it's been doing well enough that they're looking at adding more.
 
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Maybe dead end for commercial, but around here with our winds, it's great for residential.
Oh good lord. I wasn't talking about zoning, I was talking about commercial-SCALE generation. There's a shit ton of windmills in Ontario and there are days when they are generating next to nothing. I know that because there's a tracker for Ontario power output and its sources. As for solar power, there's one place in Canada where it has a shot at being viable and that's in southern Alberta and bit of south-west SK. That's the ONLY region in all of Canada that sees enough sunshine hours per year to make it worth having a go. Beyond that, Canadian weather isn't really optimized for commercial-scale solar power.
 

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Patience. He's gradually moving from OIL! OIL! OIL! to the notion that there are other ways to generate electricity.
Piss off smart ass. I live in a province that generate the vast bulk of its electricity from nuclear and hydro. Bruce Nuclear is the oldest and largest capacity operating nuclear power plant in the world. I live pretty much equidistant between Darlington NPP and Pickering NPP. And as I've said in this forum before, oil is way to important of a strategic resource to be wasting it generating commercial-scale power.
 
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Piss off smart ass. I live in a province that generate the vast bulk of its electricity from nuclear and hydro. Bruce Nuclear is the oldest and largest capacity operating nuclear power plant in the world. I live pretty much equidistant between Darlington NPP and Pickering NPP. And as I've said in this forum before, oil is way to important of a strategic resource to be wasting it generating commercial-scale power.
So are uranium and plutonium.

We need that shit for bombs.
 

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Mini portable reactors. Big enough for big towns but small enough to not be an issue if an accident occured. Damn cheap power and heat.
If they stay inside the towns they are poisoning. No parking them in rural areas that don't need the extra power because there is less colateral damage when they blow.
 

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Oh good lord. I wasn't talking about zoning, I was talking about commercial-SCALE generation. There's a shit ton of windmills in Ontario and there are days when they are generating next to nothing. I know that because there's a tracker for Ontario power output and its sources. As for solar power, there's one place in Canada where it has a shot at being viable and that's in southern Alberta and bit of south-west SK. That's the ONLY region in all of Canada that sees enough sunshine hours per year to make it worth having a go. Beyond that, Canadian weather isn't really optimized for commercial-scale solar power.
Maybe if they got them new glow in the dark solar panels that can generate their own light source at night and under 5 feet of snow.
 

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Likely location. The one in Amherst is on the marsh (or bought/rented farmland) though and gets wind almost daily so it's able to product. It's been going since 2012 and it's been doing well enough that they're looking at adding more.
I can see that working in a freshwater marsh. It seems to be salt air the type of aluminum used in the blades doesn't like. They are not keen on too much wind either. BC Hydro (under direct cabinet demands) is giving some native bands the go ahead to clear cut a sizeable chunk of prime forest to set up windmills. Not the windiest spot in the area either, but on treaty lands. The only advantage the spot has that I can see is it is only about 6 miles through more prime timber for a power line to the next hydro station.
 
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Serryah

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I can see that working in a freshwater marsh.

Not fresh water, but far enough from the actual edge of the salt water that the damage would be minimal really.

It is far enough inland to be on farmland but that said, it's sea level so one good hurricane or storm surge and it'd all go under.

It seems to be salt air the type of aluminum used in the blades doesn't like.

Wonder if they're the same kind used in Amherst.

They are not keen on too much wind either.

Well considering the winds around here lately, if they weren't keen on it they'd be useless.

BC Hydro (under direct cabinet demands) is giving some native bands the go ahead to clear cut a sizeable chunk of prime forest to set up windmills. Not the windiest spot in the area either, but on treaty lands. The only advantage the spot has that I can see is it is only about 6 miles through more prime timber for a power line to the next hydro station.

Ugh, well that sounds entirely stupid.