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Tecumsehsbones

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Wait until Xi backdoors Bedpan in eastern Russia. That's the amusing part in all of this. Russia's biggest, and quite frankly only real threat is China. The West don't want Russia. Not even for a dollar.
That's true, but what makes you think China would want 3000 miles of empty steppe?
 

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That's true, but what makes you think China would want 3000 miles of empty steppe?
Well first off, Vladivostok is Chinese territory. But secondly and most importantly, taking a piece of eastern Russia would give China access to the Arctic as an Arctic nation instead of a wannabe that's merely Arctic nation adjacent. China has openly stated that they have a claim to the Arctic but it's all bluster since they aren't an Arctic nation.
 
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Let’s borrow another 76 million our unborn grandchildren can afford it .
Quit fucking whining about shit you cant grasp.

Borrow? Why borrow? Our income just shot up by several billion a year from a single pipeline that will free up tens of thousands of rail cars to sell even more at higher rates than ever thanks to Ukraine bombing Russian oil infrastructure. We can afford $76M. It's a pittance of what we're gaining.
 
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Well first off, Vladivostok is Chinese territory. But secondly and most importantly, taking a piece of eastern Russia would give China access to the Arctic as an Arctic nation instead of a wannabe that's merely Arctic nation adjacent. China has openly stated that they have a claim to the Arctic but it's all bluster since they aren't an Arctic nation.
Gotta get past the Mongols first, historically a real problem. . .
 
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Quit fucking whining about shit you cant grasp.

Borrow? Why borrow? Our income just shot up by several billion a year from a single pipeline that will free up tens of thousands of rail cars to sell even more at higher rates than ever thanks to Ukraine bombing Russian oil infrastructure. We can afford $76M. It's a pittance of what we're gaining.
So we are no longer running a deficit ?
 

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Gotta get past the Mongols first, historically a real problem. . .
They don't need to. They could do it by sea. That could be kind'a fun to watch. The world's largest, but untested, navy by numbers (not gross tonnage) against what is arguably the most pathetic navy in the history of naval warfare.
 

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They don't need to. They could do it by sea. That could be kind'a fun to watch. The world's largest, but untested, navy by numbers (not gross tonnage) against what is arguably the most pathetic navy in the history of naval warfare.
Kamchatka is 1000X more valuable the Taiwan.

We're doing Xi a HUGE fucking favour depleting Russia of Ruzz(rizz) in Siberia.

Kak spravy motherfuckers!
 

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Kamchatka is 1000X more valuable the Taiwan.

We're doing Xi a HUGE fucking favour depleting Russia of Ruzz(rizz) in Siberia.

Kak spravy motherfuckers!
Taiwan isn't about value or resources. It's about Xi pretending that Taiwan ever belonged to China. It's about eliminating US naval dominance in the region. It's about controlling all the commercial shipping lanes that run through the Strait of Taiwan and the South China Sea.
 
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