Office of Religious Freedom Closes March 31
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How is it not? Were you born that way? Ideology is a choice, and that is what religion is, an ideology. Just like political ideologies. Nobody is born a Liberal or Conservative. Just like nobody is born a Christian or Muslim or Hindu or whatever. You have to accept and believe the tenets of whatever religion you join and that requires choice. You CHOOSE to believe. Just as I choose NOT to believe.
People have no control over things like skin colour, ethnicity/"race", gender and gender preference, physical and mental abilities or disabilities. People have no choice about how tall or short they'll be. And some even have no choice about being obese, although it's fair to say that most do.
And since there are a variety of different religions, then it's obviously a choice which one you choose to believe.
I'll defend your right to believe in your nonsense, I might mock you for it in the process but I won't deny you the right to believe in it. But I'll fight even harder to prevent anyone from inflicted theirs on me.
I haven't the faintest idea how this is relevant, but I'll answer as soon as you define "murder" and "morally."
Aside from tail-chasing fallacies and tautology, I also can't be bothered to waste my time playing silly games with undefined or ill-defined terms.
Already done it. Now I'm finished.
Lady Gaga was. Can you prove Machjo isn't Lady Gaga?
That's the kind of "reasoning" you can expect around here.
That's what I've always said. Believe what you want, just keep it off my land, outta my face, and outta the civil laws.
The point was as follows. Some people believe that murder is wrong because they believe human life has value, but they take it as faith that human life has value since it is not provable,value being very subjective.
Everyone believes something on faith without being able to prove it. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights itself is based on faith. If someone should challenge the moral premise of that document, no one could defend it scientifically.
It's scientifically proven life has a bias for itself. Progressives call it racism :lol:
I doubt very much that he can prove that I am not Lady Gaga. He accepts it on faith. Not blind faith. It could be rstiinal faith, but faith it is nevertheless.
Link?
Everybody but me.
And no, I did not miss the fact that you refused to define your terms. I just chose to let it go.
Given that the existence of God is scientifically neither provable nor disprovable as far as I can tell, believing either would need to be on faith.
So I take it you're strictly irreligious and simply have no belief concernig whether or not God exists and have no care to know?
I guess that's possible too.
This fallacy is called "Russell's teapot," after the great philosopher and logician Bertrand Russell. It consists of making a statement, and then claiming that a statement is validated by the fact that it cannot be conclusively disproven.
Why don't you believe in fairies and space aliens, Machjo? You can't disprove them either.
I feel about god or gods exactly the way I feel about fairies. Both of them are found in old books, both of them have a large number of adherents, and neither of them is supported by a scintilla of evidence.
I believe on faith that there is life on other planets.
Do you believe there is life on other planets, Tec?
However, I used to believe in god and DID wake up one day and realized it's all bullroar. To make that leap of faith, or non-faith, is a choice.
Based on what proof?
So you admit that you needed to 'realize' it first. Had you not 'realized' it, would still believe in God today?
What? Could you clarify please?
No, wait. I think I get it. You decided that "I don't believe there is life on other planets" is the same thing as "I believe there is no life on other planets.
Sorry, I reject your false dichotomy. But keep the fallacies coming! It's a good review.
Okay I'd misunderstood you. So if I understand you correctly, you neither believe nor disbelieve that there is life on other planets.