That would be debating. I've told you numerous times, I'm not here to debate you. I'm here to be entertained by you. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
Of course Quebec can separate...
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That would be debating. I've told you numerous times, I'm not here to debate you. I'm here to be entertained by you. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
Because you're the first person I've ever come across on line, that was entertained by someone making them look like an uneducated hack. In multiple threads.
You are in error. I'm entertained by someone who thinks they are making people look like uneducated hacks. If only you were as good as you think you are.
Then why the hissy fit pumpkin? Geeze, i thought tears were going to shoot out of your posts the other day.
Then you stormed off for a couple days.
Gawd it was riotous.
The great Cannuck, bested by a lowly gov't teat leeching injin.
I'm not surprised. You seem to think a lot of things that aren't grounded in reality.
Stormed off? Oh dear. Is that what you call it when people are doing other things. I have an early day tomorrow so i must sign off and "storm off" to bed.
Neither are we. We've seen you perform the same linguistic acrobatics time and time again.
As per the norm, when you embarrass yourself.
Total sovereignty could potentially harm Canada's access to Quebec's market and vice versa. Both sides could potentially suffer. Now of course I would not fight a war over Quebec ceseding completely unless Quebec was in serious breach of human rights, national and international laws obviously, but I would still fight it diplomatically.
I honestly don't doubt even Queebc sovereignists themselves concede to that already, as long as it's a fair division.
And in a province-wide election, they'd have a chance to do so again.
And again, in a province-wide election, they'd have a chance to do so again.
As for sharing a common currency, and especially citizenship, it's not about sticking it to the sovereignists but looking out for the people. Remember that those Quebecers with family in Ontario are likely among the most federalist of the bunch. Why hurt families just out of rage. Certainly reason must come before sentimentality and emotionalism.
As for a common currency, separate currencies are essentially a tax of sorts. Let's not kid ourselves that even with NAFTA for example, currency traders and brokers still take a cut in all currency transactions. Do you honestly think that when you use Canadian dollars across the border or vice versa that the company isn't raising the conversion rate to compensate for the inconvenience to them?
the same would apply with Quebec and Canada having separate currencies. Just another hidden tarrif or tax with the broker middle man skimming off the top.
What resources would they have left, after they lost Ruperts Land and the Seaway.
Besides cheap labour and some softwood products.
Hey, if the Quebecouis want out, they're going to have to leave with what they came with.
Sure.
And youthink they'll change their collective minds? I highly doubt that. Especially since the Quebecouis make bigots like Cannuck, look like angels.
Where did you see emotions? I'm not trying to stick it to anyone. They want their own country. I'm saying if that's what they want, they can have the whole package, currency, passports, citizenship.
What dfoes that have to do with Quebec using their own currency.
That's what goes along with having your own country.
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I agree that those who'd voted into federation would likely do so again for the most part. I was just pointing it out as a matter of principle.
As for currencies, sure if Quebec wants to shoot itself and us in the feet and have its own citizenship and currency, by all means go for it. All I'm saying I'd hope Canada would be smart enough to not do them the honours. We should offer them the option of common currency and citizenship if they want it.
And as for countries sharing common currencies and citizenship, that's not unheard of. Take the Eurozone as an example of a shared international currency, and Puerto Rico and the US as an example of two countries sharing a common citizenship. All we need is some imagination. If Quebec decides to shoot us and them in the feet, well by all means. But for us to shoot ourselves and Quebec in the collective feet would be plain stupid.
As for currencies, sure if Quebec wants to shoot itself and us in the feet and have its own citizenship and currency, by all means go for it. All I'm saying I'd hope Canada would be smart enough to not do them the honours. We should offer them the option of common currency and citizenship if they want it.
And as for countries sharing common currencies and citizenship, that's not unheard of. Take the Eurozone as an example of a shared international currency, and Puerto Rico and the US as an example of two countries sharing a common citizenship. All we need is some imagination. If Quebec decides to shoot us and them in the feet, well by all means. But for us to shoot ourselves and Quebec in the collective feet would be plain stupid.
And as a matter of principle, Natives in Quebec, don't trust a sovereign Quebec.
I disagree.
And look at the UK, the ones that opted out of the Euro, hows their economy, compared to those that dove in?
Wouldn't separating from Canada, alone, be tantamount to shooting us in the face?
Seriously, I feel it would come to that. A coup the day they declared independance would be fitting.
If they are anything like the guys out here they too would have buried sea cans full of "goodies".
A very real possibility.
I know that after Oka, the MWS made some very interesting purchases, and formulated tactics to protect their land.
Sure, but that's up to them to decide.
The UK's economy has been struggling too. But also bear in mind that other factors are involved here. Just to take one simple example, according to Francois Grin, a Swiss economist, the EU subsidizes the UK economy to the tune of about 17 yo 18 thousand million euros annually through the language teaching industry alone, and also faces the burden of spending much more than the UK on language learning so as to access foreign markets. This gives the Uk a big advantage regardless of currencies. A fairer comparison would be how Eurozone countries have fared prior to and since monetary union, taking various other influencing factors since.
Common sense dictates that money brokers specializing in eurozone currencies lost their jobs, and others likely saw their profits at least drop somewhat (i.e. it cut out the middle man somewhat by eliminating some make work jobs that really produce nothing in the economy but merely feed of currency transactions).
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I bet the airline industry saved some money too in eliminating the middleman at least in inter-eurozone transactions.
Like I said, it was almost unanimous.
You haven't made a case for the benefits of that union, IMHO.
And that has what to do with my comment?