Of all the established and recognized N.H.L. players in the past 25 years who are the

[talloola]

Overstated but true: we love the speed, skill and violence of the sport. Most hockey fans want the hits, want the contact, want the aggression. We've all seen some great games without fights (like in the Olympics but even in the NHL playoffs, etc.) but fights do get a crowd worked up. The figure skating analogy some former players/analysts use at times is also overstated but its also true in that the fans don't want the game watered down too much.

no, and it shouldn't be watered down too much, but the classless moves we use to see much more than
we see today are beginning to get fewer and farther between, the head shots allready are noticeably
fewer, and the staged fights need to be dealth with, but the rest of it, good bodychecking, rough
tough play, and the odd spontaneous fight are all part of the game.

No one wants to go and see two teams playing no contact hockey, that isn't what the NHL is all about,
that is for workers who have to get up the next day and go to work, and kids, and others who just
want to play for the fun of playing, without competition.

I watch more hockey than 'probably' any of you do, and many of the games have no fights at all, and I
don't even notice, but I do notice the speed and toughness of the game itself, that is what hockey is all about.
I think there are very very few people who go to games to see fighting, as if that was the case many
times they will pay and there won't see a fight, then why are they there.

The game is enough to get one's heart racing, just from the speed, the crashing around, the just about
goals, and the desire all of the players play with, much more effort in todays game than ever before.

Yeah, there was sure nothing lacking with McInnis' playing ability. I just didn't like his attitude toward people he considered inferior to him.



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you left me scratching my head on that one, he wasn't arrogant on the ice at all, just did his job, had
the fastest slap shot in the league, really kind of a quiet guy.

don't get why ribiero is on the list either, or iginla, I only did my list from what I saw on the ice,
didn't know any of them personally, or anything they did away from the game.

Matt cooke should be on the list too, for his violence against other players,
dirty hits, and cowardess for not backing up his style of play by dropping
the gloves when challenged instead of turtleing.

donald brashear and all of the 'fighters' need a list of their own, that was their
job back then, to fight and protect their own players, not much else.

 

[JLM]

no, and it shouldn't be watered down too much, but the classless moves we use to see much more than
we see today are beginning to get fewer and farther between, the head shots allready are noticeably
fewer, and the staged fights need to be dealth with, but the rest of it, good bodychecking, rough
tough play, and the odd spontaneous fight are all part of the game.

No one wants to go and see two teams playing no contact hockey, that isn't what the NHL is all about,
that is for workers who have to get up the next day and go to work, and kids, and others who just
want to play for the fun of playing, without competition.

I watch more hockey than 'probably' any of you do, and many of the games have no fights at all, and I
don't even notice, but I do notice the speed and toughness of the game itself, that is what hockey is all about.
I think there are very very few people who go to games to see fighting, as if that was the case many
times they will pay and there won't see a fight, then why are they there.

The game is enough to get one's heart racing, just from the speed, the crashing around, the just about
goals, and the desire all of the players play with, much more effort in todays game than ever before.



you left me scratching my head on that one, he wasn't arrogant on the ice at all, just did his job, had
the fastest slap shot in the league, really kind of a quiet guy.

don't get why ribiero is on the list either, or iginla, I only did my list from what I saw on the ice,
didn't know any of them personally, or anything they did away from the game.

Matt cooke should be on the list too, for his violence against other players,
dirty hits, and cowardess for not backing up his style of play by dropping
the gloves when challenged instead of turtleing.

donald brashear and all of the 'fighters' need a list of their own, that was their
job back then, to fight and protect their own players, not much else.

Yeah, there's probably not too much wrong with Al. One news story years ago covered him and his brother in an encounter with a hooker. He told the hooker he made more in two minutes than she made all year, so I kind of summed that up in that it showed conceit, bragging, putting down what he considered lesser people, and unkindness. But of course he could have been drunk, as it was outside a bar.

 

[talloola]

Yeah, there's probably not too much wrong with Al. One news story years ago covered him and his brother in an encounter with a hooker. He told the hooker he made more in two minutes than she made all year, so I kind of summed that up in that it showed conceit, bragging, putting down what he considered lesser people, and unkindness. But of course he could have been drunk, as it was outside a bar.

OK, I get it now, and of course the 'credibility' of a story in the media is always
front and center right?

 

[JLM]

you left me scratching my head on that one, he wasn't arrogant on the ice at all, just did his job, had
the fastest slap shot in the league, really kind of a quiet guy.

I think Al did have the fastest slapshot in the league awhile, but I think he may have been surpassed by Al Iafrate at one point.

 

[TenPenny]

A more recent player that made a lot waves for a while with his play was Steve Downie. I loved him on the Canadian Jr squad but in the NHL, he showed a dangerous lack of respect for other players, with the way he charged around and head-hunted.

I was trying to remember Downie; I would put him right behind Avery for players currently playing. He is a complete moron, and why any coach tolerates him, I don't know.

Overstated but true: we love the speed, skill and violence of the sport. Most hockey fans want the hits, want the contact, want the aggression.

But that doesn't require fights.

 

[Cannuck]

Nikita Filitov isn't established yet and in my opinion probably never will be but rumour has it that when told to back check, he told the coach "Filly don't back check". Pretty gutsy for a guy playing in the minors.

 

[JLM]

Nikita Filitov isn't established yet and in my opinion probably never will be but rumour has it that when told to back check, he told the coach "Filly don't back check". Pretty gutsy for a guy playing in the minors.

When you are being paid $million a year don't you do what the boss f*****g well tells you? :lol:

 

[talloola]

Contrary to a lot of opinions I was never too impressed with Pavel Bure, he was fast, he was nice to watch for 10 seconds of a game, and he could put the puck in the net. I thought he had an elitest attitude and the goals he scored may have been the result of a couple of diggers and muckers getting the puck out of the corner and away from the boards, but it seemed most of the credit for the goals went to Pavel. I know I'm going to get jumped on for my assessment but right or wrong I have that feeling.

jump, jump, jump -----lol
total disagreement

Nikita Filitov isn't established yet and in my opinion probably never will be but rumour has it that when told to back check, he told the coach "Filly don't back check". Pretty gutsy for a guy playing in the minors.

filitov will most likely end up back in russia, he won't, can't fit into the NHL, and it seems that
the g.m in ottawa will make a deal with the russian federation to send him back, and we won't see
him again.
sometimes it just doesn't work, they don't want, and mentally can't adjust, just want to play offense,
don't want to get hit.
they had the problem with grabner for a while when he was in manitoba, but the little light went on
for him, and he began to 'work out' in the gymn, get stronger, mentally and physically, now he is a
good NHL er as long as he wants to be.

I was trying to remember Downie; I would put him right behind Avery for players currently playing. He is a complete moron, and why any coach tolerates him, I don't know.



But that doesn't require fights.

sometimes the physicallity gets to a boiling point, and a fight breaks out, so be it,
get it over with it, and move on.
it is hard to play at that level of mental and physical energy, speed and body checking
without sometimes having a bit of a blow up.

but not the staged ones, by players who just want to, and make that agreement, I don't like that.