Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

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I'm starting to veer to Ron Paul, but that entails giving up almost everything I believe in for the sake of stopping the military industrial complex. It seems it might be worth it though - if we're to look at what is truly important. It's definitely one of the highest considerations we should make on maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Obama seriously needs to make a u-turn on his foreign policy.
 
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mentalfloss said:
I'm starting to veer to Ron Paul, but that entails giving up almost everything I believe in for the sake of stopping the military industrial complex. It seems it might be worth it though - if we're to look at what is truly important. It's definitely one of the highest considerations we should make on maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Obama seriously needs to make a u-turn on his foreign policy.
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Ron Paul - I think you have not had your coffee yet.
 
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YukonJack said:
And with their majority The Democrats failed to produce a budget
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Except, of course, the federal budget for the entire 2010 fiscal year.

ironsides said:
The democrats only proved they cannot function even with a majority.
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Except for having that list of accomplishments that have impressed objective political scientists.

EagleSmack said:
How? The Dems had full control of the Congress and White House for two years. They still have control of the House and the White House..
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Except, of course, for the fact it's the Republicans that currently control the House.

Fact checking people. Facts. They're not too much to ask for.
 
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Icarus27k said:
Except, of course, the federal budget for the entire 2010 fiscal year.



Except for having that list of accomplishments that have impressed objective political scientists.




Except, of course, for the fact it's the Republicans that currently control the House.

Fact checking people. Facts. They're not too much to ask for.
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Fact - The change of power in the House happened in 2011 - Fact Obama could have passed it in 2010 - Fact is he is using that as an election platform - Fact, just the facts, people just that facts.

As to Political Scientists. Wow. Fact - They are not worrying about their jobs or a mortgage payment.

Fact Obama took the vote for massive change - it was not - Another fact.
 
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You don't know what you're talking about in terms of the federal budget. I'm fact checking this statement from YukonJack. "And with their majority The Democrats failed to produce a budget." That's false. The Democratic majority in both the House and the Senate passed, and President Obama signed into law, the FY2010 budget back in calendar year 2009. Yukon is trying to criticize the Dem Congress and Obama for not passing an annual FY2011 budget, but he phrased it in the sense of "Democrats never, ever passed a budget", which is false.

And yes, politicial scientists, the experts who know about the quality of government. Their praise is impossible to dismiss. For more on this, read the following thread. (Of course, it also should be pointed out that despite your implication that the impressive accomplishments of the Democratic Congress and Obama are not positive for ordinary Americans, just a skim of the list proves that false.)

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/u...0-accomplishments-current-111th-congress.html
 
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EagleSmack said:
How? The Dems had full control of the Congress and White House for two years. They still have control of the House and the White House.
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You cant be said to be in full control, when the word "filibuster" appears in the current political lexicon.
 
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''Bush-Obama convergence''

As I have written on this forum before, you cannot solve Republican created problems with Republicans solutions [sic]. We have had this nonsense since Reagan and it hasn't worked even once. The only time we have had prosperity was under Clinton when he used FDR solutions.
 
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gopher said:
''Bush-Obama convergence''

As I have written on this forum before, you cannot solve Republican created problems with Republicans solutions [sic]. We have had this nonsense since Reagan and it hasn't worked even once. The only time we have had prosperity was under Clinton when he used FDR solutions.
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He also had the Bush Snr changes that helped him along. Seemed to have overlooked that tidbit.
 
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gopher said:
''Bush-Obama convergence''

As I have written on this forum before, you cannot solve Republican created problems with Republicans solutions [sic]. We have had this nonsense since Reagan and it hasn't worked even once. The only time we have had prosperity was under Clinton when he used FDR solutions.
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Let me see now - Obama care is OK - It is Obama as Pres - The Foreign Policy is not as it is Repub but Bush is not Pres, Obama is. So Obama has a policy that is the same as Repubs, so it is Repub Policy, Not the Dems Policy. Really

Does this apply to all of Obama policies that are the same as or quite similar to the Repubs.

Would the reverse apply with a Repub as Pres.

So what Policies are really Obama and thus the dems policy, as it is confusing.


I would not want to criticize a particular Policy under Obama as he is innocent, it would have to be directed at the Repubs. So who is this secret & clearly well hidden repub that is making Obama follow Repub Policy.

Svengali like???? Where is the National Enquirer when you really need them.
 
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Under the circumstances he has been good.

He's a pretty cool dude too. Lots of confidence and very good at clearly communicating some complicated issues.
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Totally agree, give the man a break. I'm so sick of people trashing the President!! people can be so judgmental. Just look at what he inherited from Bush. Rome wasn't built in a day people!
 
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YukonJack said:
under-water mortgages
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For those unaware, an "underwater" mortgage is a mortgage that costs more than what a home is worth. People could listen to YukonJack's spin on it, or you can listen to my spin as well. 23% of all U.S. mortgages were underwater at the end of last year. As bad as that sounds, it's an improvement from the first quarter of 2009 when 26% of U.S. mortgages were underwater and when people were predicting the percentage could go up to 48%.

Source: About half of U.S. mortgages seen underwater by 2011 | Reuters
 
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Icarus27k said:
For those unaware, an "underwater" mortgage is a mortgage that costs more than what a home is worth. People could listen to YukonJack's spin on it, or you can listen to my spin as well. 23% of all U.S. mortgages were underwater at the end of last year. As bad as that sounds, it's an improvement from the first quarter of 2009 when 26% of U.S. mortgages were underwater and when people were predicting the percentage could go up to 48%.

Source: About half of U.S. mortgages seen underwater by 2011 | Reuters
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That's a direct result of people believing that real estate prices could never go down, and the ability to get a mortgage for more than you paid for a piece of property.

Most people looking at the situation knew this would happen, but in a world where so many people lease cars, it seems that financial knowledge is fairly low.
 
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Icarus27k said:
For those unaware, an "underwater" mortgage is a mortgage that costs more than what a home is worth. People could listen to YukonJack's spin on it, or you can listen to my spin as well. 23% percentage of all U.S. mortgages were underwater at the end of last year. As bad as that sounds, it's an improvement from the first quarter of 2009 when 26% of U.S. mortgages were underwater and when people were predicted the percentage could go up to 48%.

Source: About half of U.S. mortgages seen underwater by 2011 | Reuters
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Most of those who indulged in home-buying misadventure of getting a sub-prime loan were encouraged to do so by the likes of Barney Frank and Chris Todd - Democrats - and were minorities. Would they vote for Obama seeing their house repossessed? Of course, they would! For exactly the same reason they voted for him in the first place.
 
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