Obama gay marriage stance puts new pressure on Romney

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And the same penalties as humans. I'd be interested in seeing a corporation executed.
Corporations merge or are acquired. If the homosexuals want to call their unions mergers or acquisitions I'm sure they would get full support.
 

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Wouldn't civil unions have provided this equality?

No, the federal government doesn't recognize civil unions as the same thing as marriage, nor do other states have to recognize them, nor do they grant the same rights. And even if they were the same thing, yeah, equality in the same fashion as having two water fountains of no discernible difference, only one is for whites only, and the other for non-whites.
 

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Corporations are allowed to merge and these are called corporate marriages. Shouldn't people have the same rights as corporations?

I agree, then we would never have to pay taxes, just wright everything off.. LOL

Why not just call it marriage?

Because they are marriage in a civil court by a judge.. hence a Civil Union?
 

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Usually the word marriage didn't have an adjective before it, but then gays didn't want to get married decades ago. Me, I don't care if they get married or not, they don't seem to affect my life. So far.

Two men are married, are they both husbands? I've never heard. There doesn't seem to be much terminology around this.

Here they discuss how the terms bride and groom might be removed from marriage certificates. Which doesn't make sense to me as gay/same sex marriages should have to invent their own words and adjectives for their new kind of marriage, not detract from the language we already have. But that would fit in with whites being inherently racist and sexist and changing the language would fix that. Through govt mandated actions of course, which corporations would support because it enhances profit as less trouble is better.
Don't use the words husband and wife! Coalition's same-sex wedding reforms would axe terms from official documents | Mail Online
 

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You still get a certificate from the State. Other than equality in a divorce what rights are included? The promise to stay through the rough times, financial and medical seems to be part of the 'contract', that isn't written in stone as can be shown by the busy divorce division of the Courts.

I assume the same contract is applied to a marriage done at the Courthouse or by the head of any Church. The term I am interested in seeing defined is mother and father rather than husband or wife.
 

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Other than equality in a divorce what rights are included?

The right to call yourself married carries a fairly substantial social punch. Many people go for the civil unions over marriage for that reason, and homosexuals want the right to get married for that very reason. Even if all else were equal, the fact that some person could come up to you and basically say, "Oh, your relationship with your partner isn't as serious as mine, you aren't even married" just by saying, "You aren't married, it is just a civil union," is a bit of slap to the face.
 

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Yes we should, we do, why don't we enforce our rights?

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It seems to be some bit of surprise to some people that a politician would actually support something which may get him more votes. That's odd.
Most of the issue with same-gender marriage seems to be with the derps who thinks a religion has the copyright, patent, etc. on marriage and this is grounds for excluding a particular group of people from having the same rights as others. That's as archaic and regressive as the aggressive religions (Christianity and Islam) themselves.
 

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Romney now says marriage is (and has always been) between one man & one woman. Yet, they say his grandfather had 6 wives.

Hmmmm ~ this gets more interesting every day.
 

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Romney now says marriage is (and has always been) between one man & one woman. Yet, they say his grandfather had 6 wives.

Hmmmm ~ this gets more interesting every day.

Wait till after Labor Day wekend when some real good stuff will suddenly appear ref Romney. That is when the election wil get really dirty.
 

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Goober; said:
Wait till after Labor Day wekend when some real good stuff will suddenly appear ref Romney. That is when the election wil get really dirty.


... and much of that will be dirt thrown at him by his fellow Republicans during the debates!
 

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It seems to be some bit of surprise to some people that a politician would actually support something which may get him more votes. That's odd.
Most of the issue with same-gender marriage seems to be with the derps who thinks a religion has the copyright, patent, etc. on marriage and this is grounds for excluding a particular group of people from having the same rights as others. That's as archaic and regressive as the aggressive religions (Christianity and Islam) themselves.

Some Christian religions accept Same Sex Marriage - can the same be said about the other major world Religions - I will start with Islam as it was part of your reply.

I would just concern myself with the top 5-10 if you are looking for their positions on Same Sex Marriage

... and much of that will be dirt thrown at him by his fellow Republicans during the debates!

His is the Crown Prince - No shxt flying - they will all pull together - well somewhat - An incident free crowning at the convention
 
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African-American Church Leaders Condemn Obama For Gay Marriage Support



BALTIMORE (WJZ)– Just days after President Barack Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage, pastors and priests around Maryland took to their own pulpits with their reaction– and in some cases– condemnation of the president.

Derek Valcourt explains the president’s comments have folks on both sides of the issue fired up.
Both sides hope the president’s position helps sway votes in their favor when the issue hits Maryland’s ballot this November.


“I think same-sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama said.

When Obama announced that his position on same-sex marriage had evolved, it outraged some African-American pastors like Pastor and Del. Emmett Burns.

“He has said to his base, African-Americans, ‘I am going against your beliefs and your thoughts,’” Burns said.

He’s so opposed to same-sex marriage, he told church members he will no longer support the president and now predicts Obama will lose the election because of it.




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African-American Church Leaders Condemn Obama For Gay Marriage Support « CBS Baltimore
 

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it outraged some African-American pastors like Pastor and Del. Emmett Burns.

“He has said to his base, African-Americans, ‘I am going against your beliefs and your thoughts,’”

I'm sure those same church people also oppose Muslims because they accept polygyny. So what's the big deal?