NWO Utopianism

Motar

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Has there ever been a period in human history without a utopian dreamer? What propels the dream?
No. The image of God within us, the promises of God to us, and the presence of God with us sustain the dream.
 
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You're right, Serryah. Not everyone ascribes ultimate worth to the same person, place or thing. Why do humans tend to hold a supreme being, destination or object in highest esteem?
Most of us don't.
 

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When your time comes to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home.

--Tecumseh
Dylan Thomas wrote: “Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.” https://poets.org/poem/do-not-go-gentle-good-night
Is there another option?
 

Motar

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Your conversing with 2 extreme left wing nuts with more issues than People magazine.

Bon chance mon ami.
Thanks for the perspective, Friend. I appreciate the sharpening this forum affords (Proverbs 27:17).
 
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Dylan Thomas wrote: “Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.” https://poets.org/poem/do-not-go-gentle-good-night
Is there another option?
Yep.

When your time comes to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song, and die like a hero going home.

--Tecumseh
 

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No. The image of God within us, the promises of God to us, and the presence of God with us sustain the dream.
The image of God within keeps utopian hope alive however unregenerate human nature will never achieve it. NWO utopiansim is real hope frustrated by human frailty.
 

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Where does the utopian vision inspiring New World Order enthusiasts originate?
Perhaps the universal desire we all have to get to our best possible end.

Consider that you are there right---- now, ---- and see if you can see reality like a Gnostic Christian does.

Evolving perfection, always moving to a more perfect perfect.

The Gnostic Christian reality.

Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.

[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.

"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.