Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

Ron in Regina

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For the average consumer, grocery savings over the two-month period are estimated at just $5. While this amount is negligible for most households, it creates a significant burden for grocers.
Implementing system updates to reflect the tax holiday for more than 4,000 products on average will result in logistical headaches and additional costs. Retailers, already operating on slim margins, will likely feel the strain…& who covers that?

While the GST/HST holiday might seem like a timely relief, it risks creating long-term instability. Food pricing is a delicate balance, and every policy shift has ripple effects across the supply chain. For many Canadians, the costs of this measure could outweigh the benefits, leaving them worse off in the long run.
 

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For the average consumer, grocery savings over the two-month period are estimated at just $5. While this amount is negligible for most households, it creates a significant burden for grocers.
Implementing system updates to reflect the tax holiday for more than 4,000 products on average will result in logistical headaches and additional costs. Retailers, already operating on slim margins, will likely feel the strain…& who covers that?

While the GST/HST holiday might seem like a timely relief, it risks creating long-term instability. Food pricing is a delicate balance, and every policy shift has ripple effects across the supply chain. For many Canadians, the costs of this measure could outweigh the benefits, leaving them worse off in the long run.
But it shows how emphatic Trudeau is to the plight of everyday Canadians in his advisors eyes .
 
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…a LOT…The vote on Bill C-78, dubbed the Tax Break for All Canadians Act, passed late Thursday night. The Liberals were (of course) supported by the NDP. The Conservatives and Bloc Québécois, who dismissed the policy as a gimmick, voted against the measure.

The tax break will take place between Dec. 14 and Feb. 15 and is expected to cost $1.6-billion. Items eligible for the tax relief include Christmas trees, kids’ diapers, clothing and toys, junk food, beer, wine, and store-bought, catered and restaurant meals.

The minority government got the bill passed so quickly because the NDP also agreed to support a motion from Government House Leader Karina Gould that allowed the bill to be fast-tracked. It skipped the usual practice of a review by a standing committee – including witness scrutiny – and was instead only briefly debated on the floor of the House of Commons.

The Conservatives and Bloc Québécois, who dismissed the policy as a gimmick, voted against the measure. The Liberals said the Conservative no-vote shows the party is being disingenuous with voters, and said nothing negative against the Bloc ‘cuz Quebec.

On a side note, there’s was a sign of life from Green Party Leader Elizabeth May, who said the measure is “transparently a vote-buying scheme,” but said she was struggling with how to vote because so many Canadians need help.

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“This isn’t a tax cut,” he (Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre) told reporters on Thursday. “This is an inflationary, two-month temporary tax trick that will drive up the cost of living.” Government House leader Karina Gould called Poilievre’s position “really disappointing.”

Poilievre accused Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of being “desperate” and clinging onto power with a GST/HST break for a few items that will be taken away “right before raising the carbon tax on heat, housing, groceries and gas” on April 1, 2025.
They're giving some people a break before the full attack on pricing comes into fruition. There's going to be a real shock come April 1st.
 

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Even as the Liberals’ “tax holiday” bill moves closer to becoming law, the deputy prime minister on Friday lamented what appears to be a lack of support for the proposed $250 rebate cheques that were originally part of the federal government’s plan.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau defended his government’s decision to dole out $250 cheques to working Canadians, arguing that many of them have been left out of targeted programs meant to help seniors and young families in recent years.
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Speaking in Prince Edward Island on Friday, Trudeau said he had been hearing from Canadians across the country who do not qualify for any of the federal government’s initiatives, whether it is a boost in seniors’ pensions, child benefits or childcare spaces? So handouts for those that haven’t qualified for all the other handouts so far? That’s the Justin-ification? For another 4.6 BILLION in anti-frugality before the next gov’t has to start cleaning up after him? Seriously?
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“Seeing hard-working Canadians who get up, go to work every day and make our economy and our communities successful, and recognizing them specifically … and showing that we see them, that’s what this is all about,” he added? Just lower their freak’n taxes & cut redundant overhead & overlapping bureaucracy!!!
Trudeau announced last week that the government would be pausing the GST/HST on select items, including beer, takeout food, children’s toys and Christmas trees in time for the holidays, but also send out a new rebate for working Canadians in the spring next year….coinciding with the next jump in the Carbon Tax(‘s) & MP’s salary increases pegged to inflation & April Fools Day? Trudeau would not say when his government would be tabling legislation for the rebates, but expects they will be rolling out in April 2025.
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Trudeau then accused Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre of “pretending to care about workers and care about affordability.” Poilievre has criticized the Liberals’ latest ideas as “irresponsible and inflationist” and said the carbon tax increase on April 1 will raise the cost of living.
 

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Vancouver South . Six feet under . But my point was liberal voters continue to vote liberal in their old age . The same goes for hard core NDP and conservative . Many liberal /NDP switch right as they age and tire of taxes and fiscal issues . IMO
Well, most of my generation is heading into its senior years, and they are mostly conservative.

Idealism shrinks with the wallet.
 

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Well, most of my generation is heading into its senior years, and they are mostly conservative.

Idealism shrinks with the wallet.
I agree , I was referring to those that have already reached the senior years and beyond that no longer have their complete facilities. They call it getting out the vote .
 

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Singh’s behaviour over the past few months reminds me of a time when Canadian politicians would say one thing while campaigning in English and a totally different thing while speaking in French. Singh’s version is to constantly tear down and critique Trudeau and his government, but then vote to keep the party in power whenever necessary to do so.

So Singh terminated the agreement and made a big show of it. But, after a few days of Singh trashing Trudeau, the NDP leader returned to Parliament and voted to keep the Liberals in power.
It’s possible that Singh is playing 3-dimensional chess: attacking the Liberals while taking credit for Trudeau’s policy wins, and waiting until the NDP is better prepared for an election before triggering one.

But the polls suggest that Singh’s gambit is not paying off. Oh well….The last election produced a Liberal minority government, fair and square. Trudeau can’t survive without at least one opposition party backing him up…& that’s Singh & the NDP, regardless of what the Liberals do (or don’t do), no matter what.
 
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Singh’s behaviour over the past few months reminds me of a time when Canadian politicians would say one thing while campaigning in English and a totally different thing while speaking in French. Singh’s version is to constantly tear down and critique Trudeau and his government, but then vote to keep the party in power whenever necessary to do so.

So Singh terminated the agreement and made a big show of it. But, after a few days of Singh trashing Trudeau, the NDP leader returned to Parliament and voted to keep the Liberals in power.
It’s possible that Singh is playing 3-dimensional chess: attacking the Liberals while taking credit for Trudeau’s policy wins, and waiting until the NDP is better prepared for an election before triggering one.

But the polls suggest that Singh’s gambit is not paying off. Oh well….The last election produced a Liberal minority government, fair and square. Trudeau can’t survive without at least one opposition party backing him up…& that’s Singh & the NDP, regardless of what the Liberals do (or don’t do), no matter what.
Singh has now taken to travelling in a Maserati SUV because .
 

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Singh’s behaviour over the past few months reminds me of a time when Canadian politicians would say one thing while campaigning in English and a totally different thing while speaking in French. Singh’s version is to constantly tear down and critique Trudeau and his government, but then vote to keep the party in power whenever necessary to do so.

So Singh terminated the agreement and made a big show of it. But, after a few days of Singh trashing Trudeau, the NDP leader returned to Parliament and voted to keep the Liberals in power.
It’s possible that Singh is playing 3-dimensional chess: attacking the Liberals while taking credit for Trudeau’s policy wins, and waiting until the NDP is better prepared for an election before triggering one.

But the polls suggest that Singh’s gambit is not paying off. Oh well….The last election produced a Liberal minority government, fair and square. Trudeau can’t survive without at least one opposition party backing him up…& that’s Singh & the NDP, regardless of what the Liberals do (or don’t do), no matter what.
The dwama will continue until Singh has his solid gold pension locked down.
 

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I agree , I was referring to those that have already reached the senior years and beyond that no longer have their complete facilities. They call it getting out the vote .
In my mom's generation of our family, the children would have never voted conservative. In the Great War, the conservative government sent my great-grandmother a bill for the two blankets they wrapped her sons in before burial. Both were killed in the same week. My grandmother never forgot that. It was pretty disgusting.
 
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In my mom's generation of our family, the children would have never voted conservative. In the Great War, the conservative government sent my great-grandmother a bill for the two blankets they wrapped her sons in before burial. Both were killed in the same week. My grandmother never forgot that. It was pretty disgusting.
Yup no doubt . My mother was an officer in the local constuency association for the liberals . Die hard through and through . I once asked her why all these rich guys donated to the party and her response was , they get information and opportunities. So I asked why we didn’t take that advantage . I am involved to make Canada better as she turned a blind eye .
 
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Ron in Regina

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Justin Trudeau’s Liberals are fiddling while Canada burns. And Jagmeet Singh’s New Democrats are performing as their backup musicians.

The Liberals are obsessed with getting their gimmicky GST holiday passed. At the same time, on Nov. 29, Statistics Canada announced that for the sixth consecutive quarter (and the eighth quarter in the last nine), Canada’s per-capita Gross Domestic Product declined.

The GDP decline is the far bigger problem. It’s the national fire. A country that is in economic decline cannot afford all its fancy social programs such as health care and pensions.

So what are the Liberals doing about that? Nothing.

Are they cutting spending so the public sector doesn’t suck as much energy out of the economy? Don’t be silly.

Are they lowering taxes, such as the income tax or carbon tax, in a meaningful way so public spending doesn’t crowd out personal spending? Nope.

In the spring budget, the Liberals projected this year’s deficit would be in the neighbourhood of $40 billion. Now it’s almost certainly at $50 billion, with four more months to go in the budget year. On top of which they’re thinking of adding $6 billion to pay for their two-month GST hiatus and their $250 cheques to working Canadians (but likely not seniors, the self-employed or small businesspeople).
The Liberals’ backup fiddlers – the New Democrats – are demanding even more spending. So, by the end of March, expect this year’s deficit to be nearer $60 billion.

That kind of out-of-control spending puts huge upward pressure on inflation — more pressure than the GST forgiveness can relieve.

There’s an excellent chance the Liberals’ scheme to give Canadians temporary relief from the high cost of living will end up raising the cost.

Borrowing less money might help the Liberals put out the fire threatening our economy. Will they borrow less so the Bank of Canada can continue to bring down interest rates? Not a hope.

If you have to refinance your mortgage in the coming months and the interest rate goes up, blame it on the inflationary pressure caused by Trudeau’s GST gimmick.

I’m sure as you’ve laid awake nights, wondering how you were going to afford food for your family AND activities for the kids AND repairs to your car AND a new mortgage, the thought never once came to your head, “Gee, I sure wish the federal Liberals would remove the GST on beer until the middle of February. That would be a big help.”

(Over the past nine years, America’s per-capita GDP has risen five times faster than ours, largely for two reasons. Their federal governments during that period have not been as anti-business, anti-investment as the Trudeau Liberals. And they have allowed in nowhere near as many legal immigrants as we have – immigrants who need housing, jobs, health care and other benefits)
 
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