News Flash: God is Dead

dumpthemonarchy

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Religion had its purposes when there was little knowledge and most people did live in the country, it created social cohesion because there was little else to explain the world around them except hoodoo voodoo.

Religion is just becoming an embarassment in the world today due to its high prodcution of srife. All the resouces it consumes needs to be reduced.
 

look3467

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But this is opposite to the way everything else works. Is that a strange way of doing things?>>> Unforgiven
Everything Godly is opposite to the earthly things.
It was done so in order for mankind to learn to distinguish between two opposites.
(Night/day… light/darkness… up/down… left/right etc.)
Only under these conditions can we make distinctions.

A paradox? Yes, born to die, but in the mean time, learn to manage time, behavior and adoration for the creator.

God is not no thing of insignificance in human affairs, for it has been shown throughout the ages past that mankind looked for a spiritual significance in their lives.
So, God is here to stay despite mankind’s agreements against Him.

If we seek God in anyway, by nature, by the written word or simply by mouthing a request in spirit, He says He is faithful to answer us and grant us a response.
But there must first be some inclination towards Him.

What do you mean by "the word of God"?>>> Unforgiven
The word of God is the inspired word as given to mankind to write concerning the things of God.
The bible is the word of God and in there one will find answers to all our question concerning the creation, mankind, and who God is.
It is a book which if studied for the intended purpose of knowing God, then He will open up our eyes to see things which the world at large can not see.

This makes little sense to me. Babies born into a period of horrible pain only to die, doesn't much sound like a way to find God. I don't think having a difficult time doing something you choose is really suffering at all. Something that you can't control being thrust upon you without hope for relief is what I would call suffering.>>> Unforgiven
Mankind was trust into this world of the flesh without it’s permission. Proof, where you asked to be here?
The anger of mankind towards God for all the suffering is evident in the attitude towards Him.
This comes because there is no understanding of the reasons why.

To understand why, we must seek the answers out with whatever knowledge of God is available to us.
If the knowledge available is limited, then there can be no accounting for misbehavior.
For what would bad behavior be compared too, if there were no rules or standards?

All those who have no inner eye to open yet suffer the worst maladies are what to God? Sacrifice? It makes no sense to me at all.>>> Unforgiven
To contrast what you said above, I will present to you Jesus. Jesus knew exactly who God was. He was above temptation, meaning that all the desires of the flesh held no power over Him.
That made Jesus perfect, and without any sin, or blame, yet, for our sakes, to give us a way to be like Him, He for us took the power of Satan (World desires) away from us, if…….if, we abide in Him.

That is power granted us by the sufferings of an innocent man who took the sins of the world upon Himself and in which we find forgiveness.

People suffer, both Godly and Ungodly ones.
There is a verse in the word of God which states, “Time and chance happen to all”.

Meaning that no one is exempt from suffering; Suffering is a way of life!

But what does make sense to me is that someone could write a book and call it the word of God and push people to live by that code of conduct and disowning the one they choose for themselves. Then changing that code to fit a vision of the future where they hold great power unto themselves.>>> Unforgiven
You analyzed it to a T. The word of God is for instruction, but mankind for motive reasons twists it to fit their desires, showing their humanity and inhumanity in the name of God as the primary guide.

The word of God is to be understood through trial and error as only then can we learn through suffering what is good.
Nothing bad can come out of Good, but good can come out of something bad.

Darkness can only see the light as good, but light can not see darkness as good.

We were born in darkness, meaning no knowledge, then as the light is given us, we learn to choose light over darkness, and try to remain in the light of all things.
For there is no profit in remaining in darkness, but knowledge is power over darkness.

Knowledge used properly, is for good, improperly, is evil.

These are conditions we were placed in, so that we may rise above it in power of the Almighty God to our benefit.

Peace>>>AJ



 

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God is dead?

Good, the prick causes wars and gives children cancer. Maybe now we can live in Darwinian peace.:lol:
 

look3467

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Religion had its purposes when there was little knowledge and most people did live in the country, it created social cohesion because there was little else to explain the world around them except hoodoo voodoo.

Religion is just becoming an embarrassment in the world today due to its high production of strife. All the resources it consumes needs to be reduced.

You are right about a purpose and creation of social cohesion, but the innate ingredient that all of humanity has is a spark of the spirit of God that draws each one of us to Him.

That is why each one of us has a religion, whatever that religion might be.

Peace>>>AJ
 

Minority Observer84

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God is a human creation .
If we cannot prove something exists or doesn't does not imply that it does exist the spectrum of things that could exist is so inconceivably huge that if you believed in everything you could not prove you'd probably go insane with the sheer number of possibilities .
God is dead who cares millions of other possible deities will be rushing to his place to fill the illogical need for people to feel like they have a special place in the universe .
 

look3467

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God is dead?

Good, the prick causes wars and gives children cancer. Maybe now we can live in Darwinian peace.:lol:

With that attitude, God is dead. To you!

If you only knew and understood, that the very God you don't believe in has given you the gift of life, both in the flesh and eternal.
The flesh you have already, the eternal, you have the right to access it any time you choose.
But you must look for it!

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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God is a human creation .
If we cannot prove something exists or doesn't does not imply that it does exist the spectrum of things that could exist is so inconceivably huge that if you believed in everything you could not prove you'd probably go insane with the sheer number of possibilities .
God is dead who cares millions of other possible deities will be rushing to his place to fill the illogical need for people to feel like they have a special place in the universe .

Of course God is a human creation! How else could mankind identify with something they don't know about, so as to create their own idea of a god.
That is nothing new, for history is riddled with the many gods that were created for worship.
But, the real God has made Himself known through the Jewish people as a benefit for all humanity. The problem lies, in having faith in this God of the Jews which made Himself available to all humanity, not only the Jews.

We are all equally enabled to receive the self same gift of life as an option.

Peace>>>AJ
 

Avro

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With that attitude, God is dead. To you!

If you only knew and understood, that the very God you don't believe in has given you the gift of life, both in the flesh and eternal.
The flesh you have already, the eternal, you have the right to access it any time you choose.
But you must look for it!

Peace>>>AJ

Sure, I understand that amino acids combined to create life as we know it unlike the blind believers of fairytales and Santa Clause.:lol:

I understand your fear of death moves you to believe in such nonsense, just don't push it on the brave and realists.
 

look3467

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Sure, I understand that amino acids combined to create life as we know it unlike the blind believers of fairytales and Santa Clause.:lol:

I understand your fear of death moves you to believe in such nonsense, just don't push it on the brave and realists.

Fear of death is a natural thing to the human being, that we can not escape. but to know what is after, makes for death but a door.

Peace>>>AJ
 

Pangloss

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I don't fear death, and I'm pretty sure there's no afterlife. Just as I'm pretty sure all gods are human creations with no more reality to them than the Decpticons or Tony Montana or Han Solo.

Maybe it's all the little children in grown up bodies who live in fear on standing up on their own, taking responsibility for their lives, and facing the end of their existence who really need a god, a dad who never goes away.

Those people are retarded, as in held back, as in arrested development. You faithful have my pity.

Pangloss
 

Avro

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Fear of death is a natural thing to the human being, that we can not escape. but to know what is after, makes for death but a door.

Peace>>>AJ

Interesting how I'm not afraid but I'm not foolish enough to believe in fairy tales.

No crutch here.
 

Minority Observer84

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Fear of death is a natural thing to the human being, that we can not escape. but to know what is after, makes for death but a door.

Peace>>>AJ
You don't know anything that's the point . Everyone Dies in the words of a brave cancer survivor I know , when asked how he feels about his recovery and the removal of the death sentence that has been hanging over his head he replied " Life is a terminal condition , it's still hanging over my head "
Also in the words of Mark Twain " I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born " Dying is a natural part of being alive , and just because we don't know what happens after death does not mean that something does happen after death . Fear is a tool theists use to scare their questions away .
 

look3467

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And you know this how exactly ?
The real God is by Jewish introduction.
The bible is written by man inspired to write.
The harmony of all of their writings is astoundingly intertwined to arrive at the same spiritual truth.

The story of Job, is the similitude of the sufferings and trial of Jesus.
The story of Abraham’s attempt to sacrifice his own son is a similitude of the sacrifice of Jesus.

The bible as a whole is beautifully and wonderfully inspired to reveal truths contained in many stories.

Everything fits perfectly and in harmony with the works of God.

The God, God almighty and better known to all humanity if accepted, is Jesus.

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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You don't know anything that's the point . Everyone Dies in the words of a brave cancer survivor I know , when asked how he feels about his recovery and the removal of the death sentence that has been hanging over his head he replied " Life is a terminal condition , it's still hanging over my head "
Also in the words of Mark Twain " I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born " Dying is a natural part of being alive , and just because we don't know what happens after death does not mean that something does happen after death . Fear is a tool theists use to scare their questions away .

There are scriptures to indicate the existence of life here after. The whole purpose of the coming of Jesus was to gift life here after to all humanity.
The only thing that is left for us to do, is to believe in Him.

Which is an option, and if exercised early in life, blessing are in abundance.
Peace>>>AJ
 

Minority Observer84

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The real God is by Jewish introduction.
The bible is written by man inspired to write.
The harmony of all of their writings is astoundingly intertwined to arrive at the same spiritual truth.

The story of Job, is the similitude of the sufferings and trial of Jesus.
The story of Abraham’s attempt to sacrifice his own son is a similitude of the sacrifice of Jesus.

The bible as a whole is beautifully and wonderfully inspired to reveal truths contained in many stories.

Everything fits perfectly and in harmony with the works of God.

The God, God almighty and better known to all humanity if accepted, is Jesus.

Peace>>>AJ

True God revealed himself .
How do u know that ?
Duh the bible of course . This is the funniest reply ever.
 

Minority Observer84

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There are scriptures to indicate the existence of life here after. The whole purpose of the coming of Jesus was to gift life here after to all humanity.
The only thing that is left for us to do, is to believe in Him.

Which is an option, and if exercised early in life, blessing are in abundance.
Peace>>>AJ
AJ you are a master of cyclical reasoning . I believe in the afterlife . Why ? Because the bible says there is one .
 
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YoungJoonKim

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AJ you are a master of cyclical reasoning . I believe in the afterlife . Why ? Because the bible says there is one .
To think that our consciousness will end after death is silly...
To declare that our consciousness will disappear after biological failure, must be discussed.
Consciousness sometimes become limited when brain, physical attributes, limits physical behaviours to a point that is not normal. However, individuals have emotions yet and still that is apart from physical attributes and elements. Those who are paralyzed can sometimes show signs of emotions during a critical time (when the decision of death is made) though their body limits her signs of emotions, she is fully able to feel, inside, emotions to object against death sentence.
Even a mentally unstable people share common traits. They feel guilt or happiness.
Sometimes, I believe, emotions that are from consciousness are not produced by brain itself. Brain itself is a product of consciousness to output the emotion of consciousness itself.
Mind exists because conscious allows it to be so, not because the brain allows it to be so. To have a pure and powerful consciousness to to control body's natural temptation such as sexual attraction, rage, and sadness. Though these are sometimes product of consciousness, the mind of the brain itself contributes some to the consciousness of the that person.
Fortunately, consciousness can combat such threat under some circumstances.
Our consciousness still exist in our sleeping also. Our consiouness acts as observer of events in the mind and sometimes, if possible, contributing to our dreams.
And to see all these beauty of my consciousness and its output and product is to have no purpose and no reason but reason of no reason is unacceptable.
I can find no reason to be atheist, I'd rather have purpose that is originally mine, I'd rather worship the creator of this consciousness than to disclose his existence due to lack of physical evidence.

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