News Flash: God is Dead
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Now , now don't be a sour puss...we're all dying to know about your dragon slaying and genital integrity...I think I've addressed everything put to me...but you've just been so coquetishly shy about dragons and genitalia!
Go on, take a pill and tell us the whole icky story.
Go on, take a pill and tell us the whole icky story.
Well, I'm sure Karrie has just a uber shrechlich tale for us when the drugs kick in but I have early appointments in the morning and must take my leave...happy dreams to all, sans dragons and 'naughty bits' as the Brits would say...
What a condescending comment.
The irony is that I partly agree with you, but not for the reasons you might think.
I believe the God impulse can better be understood as an archetype of unity that inhabits our minds and souls. This archetype is felt as an impulse to feel united and complete within one's own self and within the 'outer world'.
We all come from the same place: our mother's womb... In this pre-natal state, the growing human is in a state of nearly perfect symbiosis with its environment. From the baby's point of view, nothing exists and nothing matters except himself and the womb... And while none of us remember how our mother's womb felt like, it can be guessed that the womb and 'the self' was experienced as a relatively undifferentiated whole. The feeling of union and deep connection with and within the womb was probably one of the strongest we've ever experienced...
But what happens when the baby is forced out of the womb? It is probably experienced as a feeling of absolute severance... of deeply painful rupture... This defining moment probably leaves an psychic imprint so powerful it will last for one's life time. The need to be loved, to be touched, to feel included and accepted is felt by nearly everyone. I believe this impulse for union and communion extends itself to all that is perceived as being the outer world. This is where the notion of God comes in. The God impulse comes from our need to feel connected to and 'mothered' by the World.
But more than it ever was, it is difficult to feel connected to the World in our modern existence. In today's society, the state of alienation from the world is indeed overwhelming... The universe is now understood as being inconceivably huge (and small in its micro-levels) and the rational scientific world view tends to teach us that this 'objective' outer reality is devoid of intelligence, meaning and purpose beyond what we can project onto it.
But is the world beyond ourselves merely a lifeless mechanical puzzle of interacting bits of matter and energy? Or is it permeated by life? I of course, choose life over death.
Israel is the instrument by which salvation was made possible to the gentile world!
Gods selection of Israel made Israel to have a direct relationship with the Father.
So when Jesus came with a new version of the Father, it was rejected according to law.
Jesus further infuriated them by cutting them off to the point of great offending, for Jesus told them that they now had to go through Him to get to the Father.
That is understood in this verse:
Isa 9:14 Therefore the LORD will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day.
In other words, in the following order, Jesus will cut Israel off from their direct relationship with the Father and Israel will cut Jesus of from the land of the living.
Isa 9:15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
Israel is the ancient and honorable, and the prophet Jesus, in Israel eyes thought lies, is the tail.
That one day, is what the book all of Revelation is about.
Peace>>>AJ
What then is your question dear child? That children are natural atheists? The answer should be as clear as the nose on your face.
Let's say a child is raised to , oh the age of five. He has NEVER been exposed to anything whatsoever to do with dragons, the slaying of dragons, myths,stories, pictures or fables of dragons. Has never heard the word or understands the concept.
One day mommy, in a slightly drug addled state starts spouting out stories about dragons and their slaying. Would the child instantly believe there are dragons, or more likely that something is terribly amiss with mommy?
You get my point. Children, like many adults can be brainwashed and stories of dragons are no more difficult to engage a child, with repeated and earnest storytelling, than angels with wings, virgin births, raising the dead, and so on.
Of course, explaining genital integrity may be a bit more of a challenge, but we are all ears and look forward to not just a rivetting expose on that subject, but of course what if any connection there is to the slaying of dragons!!
We are eagerly awaiting your penetrating insights to these weighty issues.
Let's say a child is raised to , oh the age of five. He has NEVER been exposed to anything whatsoever to do with dragons, the slaying of dragons, myths,stories, pictures or fables of dragons. Has never heard the word or understands the concept.
One day mommy, in a slightly drug addled state starts spouting out stories about dragons and their slaying. Would the child instantly believe there are dragons, or more likely that something is terribly amiss with mommy?
You get my point. Children, like many adults can be brainwashed and stories of dragons are no more difficult to engage a child, with repeated and earnest storytelling, than angels with wings, virgin births, raising the dead, and so on.
Of course, explaining genital integrity may be a bit more of a challenge, but we are all ears and look forward to not just a rivetting expose on that subject, but of course what if any connection there is to the slaying of dragons!!
We are eagerly awaiting your penetrating insights to these weighty issues.
First darkness than light.
That is the norm. The eve of the dawning of the next day is in darkness, sundown.
As the "evening and the morning" is the day.
A child is born in total darkness (Lack of knowledge is darkness) and then light comes in gradually as knowledge is eaten, as in the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
When that child's knowledge is able to cause it to make choices between to extremes of good and evil, the curse of Adam sets in, and His spirit becomes as like all of us dead to God.
That is because it has become like as god, to know good and evil.
OK, now comes in the good part of all this in that in order for us to know what good is, we must be placed in an evil environment to where this good can be born in.
Depending on our upbringing, what we have been thought, will depend on what the outcome will normally be, unless God steps in and causes changes.
There cannot be perfect people in this evil environment, but there can be perfect people in the midst of the evil environment when God is in us working out the evil in us to do good.
Remember reading what Jesus said:
Joh 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Jesus did not come to change anything about what was in the world, just the hearts of mankind that are in the world.
That is why Jesus never addressed all the issues we have today, because it is the heart that discerns which way we decide on the issues.
peace>>>AJ
That is the norm. The eve of the dawning of the next day is in darkness, sundown.
As the "evening and the morning" is the day.
A child is born in total darkness (Lack of knowledge is darkness) and then light comes in gradually as knowledge is eaten, as in the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
When that child's knowledge is able to cause it to make choices between to extremes of good and evil, the curse of Adam sets in, and His spirit becomes as like all of us dead to God.
That is because it has become like as god, to know good and evil.
OK, now comes in the good part of all this in that in order for us to know what good is, we must be placed in an evil environment to where this good can be born in.
Depending on our upbringing, what we have been thought, will depend on what the outcome will normally be, unless God steps in and causes changes.
There cannot be perfect people in this evil environment, but there can be perfect people in the midst of the evil environment when God is in us working out the evil in us to do good.
Remember reading what Jesus said:
Joh 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Jesus did not come to change anything about what was in the world, just the hearts of mankind that are in the world.
That is why Jesus never addressed all the issues we have today, because it is the heart that discerns which way we decide on the issues.
peace>>>AJ
It is very obvious grumpy, based on your previous responses to various posters, that your attitude does not lend to any humility, willingness to be understanding and or willing to give folks their due in what they want to believe.
There are some very respected individuals here on this forum who have a bit of class, conduct themselves admirably, and respond politely.
They may not believe what I do, but I do hold them up with respect and honor their views without any criticism.
I would like to do the same with you, if you will. Its not too late!
Peace>>>AJ
Egotistical at least. Sounds more like meglomania to me.
You seem just a step away from declaring YOURSELF a GOD.
Enlighten us then Rock Solid - how many of our years ago was the earth created?