New Orleans After Katrina

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The New Orleans Crisis and the Bush Ultra-Right Government
By Norman Markowitz


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The unprecedented New Orleans disaster is reverberating through the world. After a generation of demagoguery about “reverse racism,” equating poverty with sin, and condemnations of activist big government, the Bush administration has no foreign power or ideology to blame for the fact that thousands of overwhelmingly poor and African American people are dead or in life-threatening situations because of a generation of right-wing rule. The Bush administration has no liberals to blame, because no liberals were involved in drafting any of the policies that have led to this disaster.

All they can do now is engage in damage control for themselves, but not for the people of the Gulf Coast, particularly the people of New Orleans, one of the world’s great cities. There are moments when a single dramatic event captures the contradictions of an age. This is such a moment.

The right-wing propaganda machine, which largely is what the mass media is today, will dance around the facts, deal with the human interest aspects, make some mention of the protests about the racist nature of what is happening, and do everything in its power to prevent citizens from examining the evidence in a context that can make sense of why what has happened has happened, and what it means for the future. We must fight back with an analysis rooted in a Marxist framework that offers people solutions connected to evidence, not political platitudes.

First, the evidence tells us that the overwhelming majority of the victims are both poor and African American in a city that is 2/3 African American and overwhelmingly poor. The evidence tells us that the Bush administration, which like its Republican predecessors since Nixon depends on the votes of the Southern states much more than any other region for both its congressional majority and its control of the presidency, has provided a vastly disproportional amount of federal funds for infrastructure development and protection to the districts of its rightwing Republican stalwarts, districts that are predominantly white, suburban and rural. Even with their lower wages, educational standards, and general living standards than the North, these districts are still less poor than the Black majority of New Orleans and other Southern cities.

This misappropriation of federal funds for infrastructure projects is also true in other regions of the country, most dramatically where “anti-terrorist” homeland security funds are distributed to states and districts which no one seriously consider a target of any terrorist (those areas of the rural South, Middle West, and Mountain States which are under right-wing Republican leadership), while chronically-underfunded, wealth-producing cities like New York, Boston, Chicago, and Los Angeles get short shrift.

In the South, this policy is much more dramatically and directly a contemporary version of continued institutional racism in the “post-segregation” era. A city like New Orleans that is vital to the nation’s economy, a producer of and/or transmission belt for the nation’s gross domestic product, is institutionally underfunded, not in order to develop poorer, less productive regions, but in effect to subsidize throughout the South bible-belt reaction and social parasitism, to punish cities like New Orleans for being productive and cosmopolitan, and reward cheap-labor “enterprise zones” in a state like North Carolina, where a high-tech education complex co-exists with tobacco farmers, sweatshop mill hands, and bible-belters, or the region of northern Florida, where a military-industrial-complex economy co-exists with and complements a bible-belt political culture.

A look at New Orleans history will help provide a framework to understand these facts. New Orleans was the most important cosmopolitan center of the slave-holding South during the period of slavery. Its slave market was the most significant in the South and its port was the center of regional commerce. Its multicultural society produced within the slave system a sort of “tolerance,” in which there were a significant number of free Blacks in the city, some of whom were slaveholders themselves (a grotesque phenomenon but one that was rare in the region). However, former slaveholders and their followers participated actively in a campaign of racist violence and terror against post-Civil-War reconstruction forces. Louisiana followed the counter-reconstruction pattern of the former slave states, when the essentially bourgeois-democratic state governments of the multi-racial Republican Party were ousted by “white supremacy” Democratic Party-controlled state governments in the 1870s.

However, New Orleans also experienced significant European immigration, Italians, Irish and others, which set it apart from most of the segregationist South, as did the importance of Roman Catholicism in the city. New Orleans also developed a militant and radical labor movement, particularly around its port, which was the center of the economy.

In the period before and during WWI, Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) organizers played a major role in the struggle to mobilize Black and white longshoremen in the city. In the 1920s, New Orleans became a major center for Marcus Garvey’s nationalist Back to Africa movement, called at the time “Black Zionism,” which like the Zionist movement among East European Jews, attracted pro-labor and other militant African-Americans, some of whom joined the Communist movement in the 1930s.

While reactionary segregationist Southern Democrats used their power in the national Democratic party to undermine Southern labor’s organizing drives, New Orleans was once more the exception, as the Communist and broad-left-led International Longshoremen’s and Warehousemen’s Union (ILWU) and the left-led National Maritime Union (NMU) were the moving forces in the city’s labor movement..

New Orleans was also the organizing center for the Southern Negro Youth Congress, which pioneered during and immediately after WWII in integration and voter registration campaigns, which would subsequently be picked up by the Civil Rights movement.

New Orleans was detested by regional Southern reactionaries in the way New York City was long detested by national reactionaries, as an affront to all those for whom America was not a country or even a distinct nationality, but an ideology that placed work and property into an unregulated “free market” and social relations and moral values into a conservative, often theologically-defined straightjacket.

New Orleans remained a vital cultural center after WWII, even when the defeat of the CIO’s Operation Dixie ended the hopes for southern labor catching up to and joining with northern labor. New Orleans was a place where artists and intellectuals came to rather than left, the rare Southern city where people looked for and found freedom, although it suffered major economic decline over time, as did many older American cities.



The economics of the postwar military industrial complex helped the aesthetically boring and antiseptic corporate city of Atlanta become a great regional economic center (powerful conservative coalition politicians like Walter George, Richard Russell and later Sam Nunn played an important role in this). The military industrial complex also brought substantial development to Florida and regions of North Carolina, but New Orleans only had culture, beauty, and a political tradition, both progressive and corrupt, that made the business elites who ran places like Atlanta, Dallas and Birmingham uncomfortable. It also had a port vital to the United States economy to recommend it to anyone interested in a rational regional and national development policy

The shift of old segregationist Democrats into the Republican column from the 1960s on and the shift of Louisiana, whose ethnic and cultural mix of traditions differentiated it from the rest of the deep South, along with the rest of the old confederacy, into a new Republican “solid South,” badly hurt New Orleans, whose neighborhoods became poorer and more segregated and whose infrastructure, on which survival depended, continued to deteriorate

In post 1960s America and the “post-segregation” South, many African American political leaders came to power in cities like New Orleans whose African American majorities then faced a hemorrhaging of private and especially public capital.

That New Orleans was vital to both the US economy and culture, much more so than the inland office-complex cities like Atlanta and Dallas, should have been evident to any macroeconomist, social-policy professional or corporate consultant with any medium- term vision, but it wasn’t.

To see that you would have to see cities and culture as vital “human capital” and the US economy as an integrated component of a larger world economy where scientific, technological, and cultural workers were essential to prosperity and progress. Most of the people who have been “privileged” in economics, its related fields, and social policy planning over the last generation, whether research institute theorists of the market (what Thorstein Veblen a century ago called the “higher superstition”) or the business school formulators of corporate strategies to maximize profit through labor restructuring and increased market share, do not see any of this and really cannot.

What they know how to do and are rewarded for doing is to rationalize (the theorists) and administer (the consultant odds-makers) public sector cutbacks and scarcity, and in the private sector to make short-term profits by manipulating stock prices, defrauding workers of pensions, and reducing labor costs generally. If all of the staff and fellows of the American Enterprise Institute, the Heritage Foundation, and their many minor league imitators in the US were sent to New Orleans by the Bush administration as part of a community service project, they would rapidly raise the consciousness of the people against them if they trotted out their predictable nostrums. Which is probably all that they could do.

These ideological middle managers of the “power elite,” to use C. Wright Mills’ famous characterization of the interlocking directorates of business, political, and military managers who direct policy through the banking and brokerage houses, law firms, elite universities and institutes that function as their employment agencies, might contemplate saving New York, because so much capital is invested there, especially after Koch, Giuliani and Bloomberg had tamed its hated political culture. The managerial power elite of our ruling class might save Atlanta, where there is much more capital invested, not to mention cable TV, but not New Orleans, with its old buildings, old port, African American majority, and poor neighborhoods tucked away from the tourist quarter. They might not try to save Washington, DC with its legion of poor neighborhoods surrounding the federal district, until they realized that, even with the decades old rhetoric against big government, they would have to save Washington to save their own headquarters.

Right now, the Bush administration probably would want New Orleans to go away, only to live as a port and a place to export refined oil, but to die as the city it has been. The fact is the Bush administration has been adamantly against virtually everything that is necessary to revive and rebuild New Orleans as the great city it was, and they will have to be fought every step of the way, not praised and celebrated for their very small favors.

New Orleans has to be saved, restored, and only a vital national public sector effort can accomplish that. Its reconstruction can become a centerpiece of a larger American reconstruction

The effort could be funded by special surcharges on the corporations and banks that have profited from the de-taxation, de facto big business looting of the last generation. Just as Wall Street law firms take some cases pro bono to enhance their reputation, Halliburton should be required to work pro bono in the reconstruction of New Orleans as a first priority. In a city where the water danger makes the restoration of electric power difficult, Enron and other scandal-plagued corporations should be required to do extensive community service in reclamation projects and fund-raising for the projects.

All refunds granted to oil companies through the oil depletion allowance during the Bush years should be placed in a Reconstruction Trust Fund for New Orleans, along with half of all the profits received by prime military contractors through cost-plus contracts since 2001.

The Homeland Security Agency should have nothing to do with the effort, as it is showing itself incapable of anything except self-serving publicity. An expanded Department of Housing and Urban Development along with the Army Corp of Engineers, a revitalized FEMA, and HHS, all under a coordinating council centered in the Department of the Interior and under civilian control, should direct the reconstruction.

This would be a modern program of mass action, a peoples’ program to reconstruct New Orleans. New Orleans can be restored and protected from future disasters as part of a national plan and program. Much poorer countries have accomplished such goals in the midst of greater tragedies. Warsaw, a larger city than New Orleans, was gutted by the Nazis at the end of World War II. Warsaw was both reconstructed and restored through the Herculean effort of its own people and the government of the Polish United Workers Party with Soviet aid.

Soviet cities, which experienced far greater devastation than New Orleans has, were also restored through collective social efforts, as were German and other European cities, many with US capital, after the war. West Berlin, part of a city completely devastated by the last great battle of the European phase of World War II, was even turned into a “showcase” for both consumerist capitalism and social-democratic welfarism by enormous infusions of US capital. Everywhere public administration and planning led the physical reconstruction, and the economic burden was not simply placed on workers and the poor.

The United States has the skilled labor force to reconstruct New Orleans rapidly and save the poor who have been most victimized by the disaster. Can it utilize that labor force? That is a political question to be decided by political struggle. The US has real friends whom its government has declared enemies, most importantly, Cuba, willing to turn the other cheek after 45 years of blockade and send 1000 doctors to help the people of New Orleans (Cubans also have experience in hurricane relief and reconstruction, unlike Bush’s special friends in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan). Will the US government utilize the aid offered by Cuba, the Peoples Republic of China, and Venezuela, to name three, and perhaps use such aid as the basis for a new beginning in international affairs? That is a political question to be decided by political mobilization and struggle.

People have to be mobilized around such questions in order to fight for the reconstruction of New Orleans, and for the creation of public authorities that can protect people from the disasters that a decaying infrastructure and an anti-rationalist and anti-humanist rightwing politics have made much more likely than before.


--Contact Norman Markowitz at pa-letters@politicalaffairs.net.
 

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No Excuse For Feds Slow Response To Katrina; Critics Claim Government Heads Should Roll, Including Bush
Bush critics on Capitol Hill say he cares little for poor people and race was an issue in slow response. Other more sinister critics claim Bush is America's enemy, say slow response designed to bring America to its knees and one step closer to martial law.
September 5, 2005

By Greg Szymanski



One week after Hurricane Katrina ripped through the Gulf Coast, the magnitude of the death and devastation is finally starting to sink into a shocked American public having a hard time comprehending what happened.



Scenes of dead bodies floating in the streets, where usually Mardi Gra parades take place, have been too much for most Americans to stomach, leaving an entire country in a state of mourning and prayer instead of partying on the traditional Labor Day weekend.



Death tolls from New Orleans are starting to trickle in, but officials on the scene are saying 10,000 may be a conservative estimate. But what they are not saying is how many more people are going to die from the disease and pollution, already beginning to surface in nearby Biloxi, MI, where a rescue center was evacuated Sunday evening after at least 20 people reported feeling ill.



In the blink of an eye, New Orleans for the time being has been erased from the map with over a million people sent packing from what has been turned into a ghost town.



Besides New Orleans, the Mississippi and Alabama coasts were devastated with an estimated 162 dead and figures expected to climb much higher as more and more people are pulled out from the rubble.



In these regions where whole towns like Waveland and Gulf Port have been wiped off the map, more than 529,000 people still remain with power. News reports also are telling a story of a slow federal relief effort with water and the basic necessities running low, as citizens complain they have been ignored buy the federal government due to its emphasis on New Orleans.



And the two major political issues lingering along with the dead bodies floating in the water are why the levee system that failed was neglected for so long and why the Bush administration sat on their hands for more than four days before mounting a relief effort.



Regarding the levee system, it has long been known by local, state and federal officials that it needed repair. However, needed funds were never allocated, showing officials never really considered it a priority.



In fact, since the Bush administration took office hurricane and flood control funding for the Gulf Coast region has experienced historic cuts, even though warning signs and climate conditions showed New Orleans was likely to be hit by a catastrophic hurricane like Katrina.



Al Naomi, head of the Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity Hurricane Protection Project, told a group of New Orleans business men in early 2004, as the cost of the Iraqi conflict skyrocketed, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Army Corps. of Engineers said was needed to shore up the levee system.





“The $750 million Lake Pontchartrain project remains about 20 percent incomplete due to a lack of funds,” said Naomi about the project, consisting of protection for pumping stations and building up levees on the east bank of the Mississippi River in Orleans, St. Bernard, St. Charles and Jefferson parishes.



According to the New Orleans daily paper, The Times-Picayune, in June of 2004, at the height of the hurricane season, Naomi went before the East Jefferson Levee authority, begging for $2 million in “urgent emergency funds” since Washington refused to allocate proper funding to strengthen the levee.



After the levee system failed this week, critics of the Bush administration quickly cited the “lack of priority funding” for the Lake Pontchartrain project, adding the administration failed in its duties to the people of New Orleans by not providing the needed money even though the danger of a major catastrophe was well-known.



"The longer we wait without funding, the more we sink," Naomi also told a New Orleans City Business magazine last year. "I've got at least six levee construction contracts that need to be done to raise the levee protection back to where it should be (because of settling). Right now I owe my contractors about $5 million. And we're going to have to pay them interest.

"The system is in great shape, but the levees are sinking. Everything is sinking, and if we don’t get the money fast enough to raise them, then we can’t stay ahead of the settlement. The problem that we have isn’t that the levee is low, but that the federal funds have dried up so that we can’t raise them."

In its article concerning the lack of funding for the levee system, the New Orleans City Business Magazine added that despite of the 2004 hurricane being one of the worst on recorded record, the President’s budget came back “with the steepest reduction in hurricane funding and flood control funding for New Orleans in history.”



On top of the lack of federal funding, the Bush administration’s response to Katrina was pathetically slow, coming four days late, causing numerous additional deaths and strong public criticism from what seemed to be every corner of the country, including journalist, civic leaders, celebrities and especially the people stranded in the flooded areas without food and water.



In the most telling-tale of the government’s failure to respond, the president of one of the New Orleans local parishes, cried on national television as he retold the story of how the elderly mother of one of his local supervisors drowned in her home Friday evening after asking for help for three days without any federal or state rescue assistance.



“She died in here home because nobody came after we asked for help for three days,” said Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard, crying as he told politicians using four letter words to stop the press conferences and send help.

And while his picture of helplessness and despair was played over and over again on national television, it was only one of many similar situations playing out on roof tops and in attics of may New Orleans homes, where many people still remained trapped or left for dead.



Estimates of those trapped or dead are unknown, but New Orleans Mayor Nagin feared many more lives have been lost due to the government’s four day delay in responding to the catastrophe.



“Where the hell are they,” said Nagin earlier in the week as he waited for federal assistance, adding the city’s resources of food and water are almost gone. “We need god damn help now, not tomorrow or the next day. I’ve almost given up asking for federal help. They’ve ignored my SOS pleas for help. It’s a living hell and we are sinking fast.”



In the wake of the slow government response time, leaders on Capitol Hill are already calling for hearings to find out why FEMA failed to respond and to determine whether the military was delayed due to a lack of manpower since its emphasis has been on the war in Iraq, leaving the homeland vulnerable.



And one of the leaders of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MA), claimed race may have played on issue in the slow response, saying if the incident occurred in a predominantly White community, help would have arrived much faster.



“They say they’re doing everything, but give me a break,” said Rep. Cumming about the tragedy occurring in mostly poor Black New Orleans neighborhoods where people lacked the resources to leave the city after the mandatory evacuation was announced.. “You tell me they can’t get some diapers and formula to the New Orleans convention center, but we can go overseas and do much more. Give me a break. Something’s drastically wrong.



Although the situation in New Orleans remains critical, Rep. Cummings warned the worst is yet to come after the thousands of dead bodies are uncovered from the rubble. He said only then will the real questions need answering when the families of those who lost loved ones demand to know why the government first withheld funds to improve the levee system and then responded slowly to the tragedy.



“They will want to know and, justifiably so, if the federal government acted differently, could their loved ones be alive today,” added Rep. Cummings.



Besides the lack of funding and slow response and the reorganizing of FEMA, other critics who consider the Bush administration the enemy of the American people and who claim it help bring about 9/11, claim the question of how the levee system broke in three places after the storm hit – not during – is suspicious and should be completely investigated for any Delta Force or Special Ops foul play



Other strong Bush critics, who claim his world wide backers are bent on the destruction of America in favor of a one world government, said the lack of response was deliberate in an attempt to bring another large area of America to its knees like it did by orchestrating 9/11.



Still others who go much farther with their government criticism claim weather control and manipulation programs like HAARP in Alaska should be thoroughly investigated to see if intensity and storm patterns can be manipulated by new and military technology
 

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RE: New Orleans After Kat

Anyone see Jesse Jackson on Lou Dobbs yesterday? He was quite upset at the term "refugee" as he says no refugee's in America and he believes racism played a little bit into the delay of getting help to the people.

I can't say I disagree with him.

That governor of Louisiana is worse than "W", she did not want to give National Guard federal powers as then they would only be able to shoot in self defence not "shoot to kill" as she pointed out last week.

It will be interesting if this state goes Democrat next time or not, due to the F'ing around by "W".

Rices little tour that "W" sent her on to show he was not "racist" was a joke.

U.S. President George Bush sent his highest-ranking black official, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, to visit the hurricane ravaged Gulf Coast Sunday.

Her visit came in the midst of ongoing accusations that race has played a role in the U.S. government's slowness to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina, who are largely poor and black.

Read it here

I am surprised she had time as she seemed to be enjoynig NYC.

Condoleeza Rice Spends The Week At Broadway Shows and Shopping on Fifth Avenue!
 

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It is now 3:03 p.m. e.s.t. and I was just looking at the fox unfair and lies news, and general Meyers and Donald Rumsfeld were explaining why it toook so long to get aid to the people at the superdome, they said "their first priority was to make sure all the equipment, such as planes and helecopters were safe, then they had to bring them all back to help victims, which took a while".

What a bunch of crap! :evil:
 

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It is now 3:03 p.m. e.s.t. and I was just looking at the fox unfair and lies news, and general Meyers and Donald Rumsfeld were explaining why it toook so long to get aid to the people at the superdome, they said "their first priority was to make sure all the equipment, such as planes and helecopters were safe, then they had to bring them all back to help victims, which took a while".

What a bunch of crap! :evil:

crap indeed! Are "we" supposed to think that their equipment . planes, and helicopters are so unsafe , that they have to be checked out first before responding??? Is this the kind of equipment they have for "rapid response" measures.?? IF so , that makes the situation a whole lot worse than it has been shown to be to date. And they can spend megabucks invading other nations........and causing man made disasters there??? :evil:

do they really think that people are THAT stupid??? (no need to answer that one , is there? :roll:


sheesh.
 

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In a segment at the top of the show on the surge of evacuees to the Texas city, Barbara Bush said: "Almost everyone I’ve talked to wants to move to Houston."

Then she added: "What I’m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed with the hospitality.

"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (she chuckled)--this is working very well for them."


Isn’t it nice when things work out so well!


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Goes to show what reality the Bush clan live in what a fecking joke :evil: Look at this


"Team Bush" still refusing international aid. Russian rescue crews on four cargo planes with helicopters on board sit idle at an airport near Moscow waiting for green light, Cuba has 1500 doctors with 26 tons of medical supplies and Bush is refusing them entry to U.S., Venezuelan disaster rescue teams wait for a "go," Dominican Republic crews with hurricane recovery experience wait and wait and wait. It's the same scene at airports around the world. Meanwhile, FEMA turned back 8 buses from Washington, DC that were to bring 400 evacuees to the DC Armory which has been stockpiled with just about every need. The Bush regime has finally reached the crescendo of evil.

And why is FEMA so incompetent? It was turned into a political patronage agency by Bush for Bush's campaign lickspittles. This from a disaster recovery specialist with inside contacts at FEMA:

Mike Brown was Joe Allbaugh's college roommate. (Allbaugh was Bush's first FEMA director). Allbaugh is now a consultant who makes tons of money for greasing the skids for companies to get business with the federal government in Iraq and with FEMA. Note to Federal law enforcement. You might want to investigate the relationship between Allbaugh and IEM, Dewberry, and URS -- the companies that took $500,000 to develop a "Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & Southeast Louisiana," a plan they never delivered and a project for they fraudulently included James Lee Witt Associates as one of their team partners. The sleazy revolving door spewing out money spins very fast with the Bush administration.

Mike Brown had absolutely no experience in disaster management. When Allbaugh became director in January, 2001, he politically cleansed FEMA of anyone who was associated with outgoing director James Lee Witt, who had done an excellent during the Clinton administration. Allbaugh was charged with cleaning out of FEMA because of the neocon desire to rid the Federal bureaucracy of FEMA and replace it with charitable giving as a means of disaster relief.

So Allbaugh's first priority was to gut FEMA. This became an even greater priority after the Democrats (especially Joe Lieberman) forced Bush to create a Department of Homeland Security. FEMA was rolled into DHS. Allbaugh was caught by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) using the FEMA Boeing 737 aircraft for private purposes, including numerous personal trips to Florida and political trips around the country. The Republican National Committee reimbursed FEMA for the political junkets, but the embarrassing trips hit the pages of the New York Times and Allbaugh chose at that time to leave and set up his own consulting business. He left without any pressure from the White House.

In early 2001, The American Arabian Horse Association fired current FEMA director Mike Brown as its executive secretary after a non-productive period of employment. Admittedly, Mike Brown had spent a large part of 2000 campaigning for Bush rather than doing his job, but the bottom line for the horse association was that Brown neglected his duties and day to day responsibilities.

Brown was lucky. His old college roommate, Allbaugh, appointed Brown as his number 2 within days of his firing by the horse association. This cozy relationship was noted throughout the Allbaugh period. Upon Allbaugh's departure, Brown was designated by Bush to succeed him as FEMA director. He is called "Brownie" by Bush.

"Brownie" has few supporters in FEMA. In fact, the general commentary is that he lacks basic organizational and management skills and he is a bullshit artist, not a leader.
 

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Don Boyle trapped in Harry Truman Middle School in Marrero, LA. (Sept 4th) made this call and explains the nightmare.

(Poor Phone Quality)

Audio-MP3


From the Crooks and Liars

Site of origin: Democratic Underground
HURRICANE DISASTER RELIEF INFORMATION AND RESOURCES
Original Message logged: Sun Sep-04-05 08:45 AM
 

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Team Bush" still refusing international aid. Russian rescue crews on four cargo planes with helicopters on board sit idle at an airport near Moscow waiting for green light, Cuba has 1500 doctors with 26 tons of medical supplies and Bush is refusing them entry to U.S., Venezuelan disaster rescue teams wait for a "go," Dominican Republic crews with hurricane recovery experience wait and wait and wait. It's the same scene at airports around the world. Meanwhile, FEMA turned back 8 buses from Washington, DC that were to bring 400 evacuees to the DC Armory which has been stockpiled with just about every need. The Bush regime has finally reached the crescendo of evil.

this is INSANITY..........plain and simple. The guy (bush) has been insane for some time.....( clinically insane. mentally dysfunctional) ......but what this demonstrates is the extreme of irrational conduct. Is he so damned paranoid about everyone now??? Power /control/money is far more important to him...(insanity) than human lives. What the feck is he trying to prove now??? Or does he even know??? If he has not "lost it" ......he is losing it fast.-------and that is even more frightening. A country-the US this time- at the helm of a madman. (paranoid psychotic- personality disorder , etc etc. ) (hasn't the world seen this before???)
 

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hasn't the world seen this before???

We have. Papa Doc, Baby Doc, Idi Amin, Shah of Iran, Islam Karimov, Saddam Hussein, a whole whack of South American dictators that the US fully backed, Stalin, Hitler. Bush is some fine company here.
 

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hasn't the world seen this before???

We have. Papa Doc, Baby Doc, Idi Amin, Shah of Iran, Islam Karimov, Saddam Hussein, a whole whack of South American dictators that the US fully backed, Stalin, Hitler. Bush is some fine company here.


indeed. the creme de la creme of society. :evil: ......no less. ( sarcasm intended :wink:
 

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This is getting almost too thick!


FEMA accused of flying evacuees to wrong Charleston

Right city, wrong state

Tuesday, September 6, 2005;


(CNN) – Add geography to the growing list of FEMA fumbles.

A South Carolina health official said his colleagues scrambled Tuesday when FEMA gave only a half-hour notice to prepare for the arrival of a plane carrying as many as 180 evacuees to Charleston.

But the plane, instead, landed in Charleston, West Virginia, 400 miles away.

It was not known whether arrangements have been made to care for the evacuees or transport them to the correct destination.

A call seeking comment from FEMA was not immediately returned.

"We called in all the available resources," said Dr. John Simkovich, director of public health for the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.

"They responded within 30 minutes, which is phenomenal, to meet the needs of the citizens coming in from Louisiana," he said.

Simkovich said that the agency had described some of the evacuees as needing "some minor treatment ... possibly some major treatment."

"Unfortunately, the plane did not come in," Simkovich said. "There was a mistake in the system, coming out through FEMA, that we did not receive the aircraft this afternoon. It went to Charleston, West Virginia."

A line of buses and ambulances idled behind him at Charleston International Airport as he described what happened.

"This is a 'no event' for today," Simkovich said.


And I thought my Kindergarten’s Rhythm Band was uncoordinated.
 

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This is getting almost too thick!


FEMA accused of flying evacuees to wrong Charleston

Right city, wrong state

Tuesday, September 6, 2005;


(CNN) – Add geography to the growing list of FEMA fumbles.

A South Carolina health official said his colleagues scrambled Tuesday when FEMA gave only a half-hour notice to prepare for the arrival of a plane carrying as many as 180 evacuees to Charleston.

But the plane, instead, landed in Charleston, West Virginia, 400 miles away.

It was not known whether arrangements have been made to care for the evacuees or transport them to the correct destination.

A call seeking comment from FEMA was not immediately returned.

"We called in all the available resources," said Dr. John Simkovich, director of public health for the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.

"They responded within 30 minutes, which is phenomenal, to meet the needs of the citizens coming in from Louisiana," he said.

Simkovich said that the agency had described some of the evacuees as needing "some minor treatment ... possibly some major treatment."

"Unfortunately, the plane did not come in," Simkovich said. "There was a mistake in the system, coming out through FEMA, that we did not receive the aircraft this afternoon. It went to Charleston, West Virginia."

A line of buses and ambulances idled behind him at Charleston International Airport as he described what happened.

"This is a 'no event' for today," Simkovich said.


And I thought my Kindergarten’s Rhythm Band was uncoordinated.

If so many people were not suffering so much.........this would be a comedy of errors......and fodder for many late night comediens.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: New Orleans After Kat

Hey, I once got on a plane to Saskatoon and ended up in Edmonton. You'd think the alternate landing site would have been Regina, but apparently not.

Of course there was a blizzard in Saskatoon that night, and the people's airline did put me up in a hotel and get me where I was going the next day. I wonder if those refugees will get treated that well?
 

Dexter Sinister

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I still hardly know what to think or say about this. A fabulous and vital piece of American civilization, the city that birthed two of America's greatest contributions to world civilization and culture--the blues and jazz--has been destroyed. I weep. I bleed. I rage, because it was avoidable. I want to be there, in a boat, a helicopter, an SUV, a bus, whatever, rescuing people. But I cannot. So I've made what contributions I can to the relief agencies, mostly the Red Cross, and I've written strongly worded letters to my MP and the Prime Minister urging them to give whatever help and support this little country can.

But it can never be enough. There's no real recovery from this. Tens of thousands of lives have been lost or terribly damaged. Mostly, alas, the lives of people in America's vast and impoverished black underclass. It didn't even need overt discrimination to make that happen; when the evacuation order came, these were the ones left behind, the people with no place to go and no way to get out.

I wish the CBC reporters I've come to rely on for good information were still on the job. I'm afraid the situation might be far worse than I've been able to see, because the sources I trust the most aren't at work. Even CNN, which has been a shill for the Bush administration from the beginning, is openly displaying anger and grief, so it's gotta be very bad.

I say: abandon the city, it's been destroyed, most of it is well below sea level, it's not a safe location, if you rebuild there it'll be destroyed again, so rebuild somewhere else, up river, above sea level. That's the only safe thing to do when there's a far right regime in power that has consistently cut the budgets for levee maintenance and flood protection and water management...

Or: do it right. The Dutch know how to do it. Half that country is below sea level, and the Dutch invest vast sums in dike maintenance, flood control, and water management, ever since a major flood in the 1950s did terrible damage there. It can be done, with understanding and knowledge and commitment. And funding. That's the key, and that's what Shrubya took away with his budget cuts. Ignorant dumb bastard.

I don't know anybody in New Orleans, I've never been there, probably never will be now, but I know it was once a fabulous place. It's gone now.

Dammit...
 

Ocean Breeze

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Dexter Sinister said:
I still hardly know what to think or say about this. A fabulous and vital piece of American civilization, the city that birthed two of America's greatest contributions to world civilization and culture--the blues and jazz--has been destroyed. I weep. I bleed. I rage, because it was avoidable. I want to be there, in a boat, a helicopter, an SUV, a bus, whatever, rescuing people. But I cannot. So I've made what contributions I can to the relief agencies, mostly the Red Cross, and I've written strongly worded letters to my MP and the Prime Minister urging them to give whatever help and support this little country can.

But it can never be enough. There's no real recovery from this. Tens of thousands of lives have been lost or terribly damaged. Mostly, alas, the lives of people in America's vast and impoverished black underclass. It didn't even need overt discrimination to make that happen; when the evacuation order came, these were the ones left behind, the people with no place to go and no way to get out.

I wish the CBC reporters I've come to rely on for good information were still on the job. I'm afraid the situation might be far worse than I've been able to see, because the sources I trust the most aren't at work. Even CNN, which has been a shill for the Bush administration from the beginning, is openly displaying anger and grief, so it's gotta be very bad.

I say: abandon the city, it's been destroyed, most of it is well below sea level, it's not a safe location, if you rebuild there it'll be destroyed again, so rebuild somewhere else, up river, above sea level. That's the only safe thing to do when there's a far right regime in power that has consistently cut the budgets for levee maintenance and flood protection and water management...

Or: do it right. The Dutch know how to do it. Half that country is below sea level, and the Dutch invest vast sums in dike maintenance, flood control, and water management, ever since a major flood in the 1950s did terrible damage there. It can be done, with understanding and knowledge and commitment. And funding. That's the key, and that's what Shrubya took away with his budget cuts. Ignorant dumb bastard.

I don't know anybody in New Orleans, I've never been there, probably never will be now, but I know it was once a fabulous place. It's gone now.

Dammit...

BRAVO dexter!! you "penned" (keyed) the very sentiments, frustration, outrage that so many of us feel...( speaking for my self here primarily) It is frustrating too , how impotent this whole situation can make one feel. Impotence made by the anger .....

Thank you dexter. It is cathartic to read those words.

All we can do is help the best and most realistic way we can. as it is helping the region, the people of the region and NOT the asshole in Washington........( although he will spin it to suit his politics.. being the selfcented, incompetant criminal he is)

sorry, folks....... but personally ......I have NO tolerance for the bush regime ....but PLENTY for the victims and the un brainwashed Americans who "see" but are also helpless now.

the bush crimes are too great now ........for any kind of "redemption " The Law and justice must prevail..........somehow.
 

jjw1965

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Bush Quote
"I'm not looking forward to this trip," Bush said as he set out for a firsthand look at the destruction in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi.

"It's as if the entire Gulf Coast were obliterated by the worst kind of weapon you can imagine,'' the president said.

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WEATHER CONTROL