Negative people make alot of noise.

[china]

The forum is full of people who will be happy to tell you why your ideas will not work. People who will laugh at you for daring to dream big dreams. People who will call you crazy for pursuing your goals.Just ignore them. Their pettiness and mean spiritedness is their problem, not yours. Sadly, some people take delight in destructive criticism. Constructive, caring criticism is very useful and necessary. But criticism for its own sake is something to simply ignore.Small minded people think that somehow they can improve their own lot by putting down others. Small minded people have a zero-sum mentality -- they believe that people gain success only at the expense of others.Nothing could be further from the truth.True success comes only from providing something of value to the world. Your dreams, your ambitions do not diminish the lives of others. When you improve your own life, you cannot help but improve the lives of those around you.But I'm not too sure if it works in Canada.

 

[Vereya]

Small minded people have a zero-sum mentality -- they believe that people gain success only at the expense of others.Nothing could be further from the truth.True success comes only from providing something of value to the world. Your dreams, your ambitions do not diminish the lives of others. When you improve your own life, you cannot help but improve the lives of those around you.But I'm not too sure if it works in Canada.

I'm not too sure it works anywhere. You cannot prove anything to the world unless you are a really significant person. Unless you have a name and a considerable influence to it. You cannot rise to this level and become such a person without hurting anyone, without blocking someone's way. You've got to push your way out of obscurity, and that way is never smooth.
If you haven't done that, if you just live your life peacefully, don't talk about providing something to the world. The world knows nothing of you, and probably wouldn't even notice that you aren't there. The people around you whom you help and care about, are doubtless very grateful to you and they appreciate your effort. But they are not the world. Generalizing is dangerous.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Yep, I'm happy because you make me laugh! :lol:

Now you are talking I make you laugh, well well well. Risus I am starting to like you. But I know your sarcastic comment is due to the anxiety you are experiencing by me being Greek and Liberal. Oh well I still like you man.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

I'm not too sure it works anywhere. You cannot prove anything to the world unless you are a really significant person. Unless you have a name and a considerable influence to it. You cannot rise to this level and become such a person without hurting anyone, without blocking someone's way. You've got to push your way out of obscurity, and that way is never smooth.
If you haven't done that, if you just live your life peacefully, don't talk about providing something to the world. The world knows nothing of you, and probably wouldn't even notice that you aren't there. The people around you whom you help and care about, are doubtless very grateful to you and they appreciate your effort. But they are not the world. Generalizing is dangerous.

Well said Vereya....

 

[Risus]

Now you are talking I make you laugh, well well well. Risus I am starting to like you. But I know your sarcastic comment is due to the anxiety you are experiencing by me being Greek and Liberal. Oh well I still like you man.

The problem is, you make it too easy...

 

[china]

darkbeaver ,

Negative people obsess over the past while positive people work their way eagerly toward the future. Life gets better and better when you choose to make it so, and the future is bright indeed.
There is no such thing as a negative person or a positive person, there is no person at all unless there exists a balance betweeen the two aspects intact in every individual. Wheather you consider yourself a positive or a negative person is purely subjective indeed the person who considers himself or herself a positive contributor to the human condition may in fact be a scoundrel entirely.

I am not talking to others darkbeaver,I'm talking to you , don't judge the others..It doesn't matter what you consider yourself to be or what your contributions are/were;it all starts with you ' you are the world .

 

[DurkaDurka]

China, how do you keep your self positive when you live in a country that attaches less value of life then a burning inferno?

 

[china]

China, how do you keep your self positive

Without any difficulty

when you live in a country that attaches less value of life then a burning inferno?

When was the last time you visited China ,never mind "the burning inferno" .

 

[darkbeaver]

darkbeaver ,

I am not talking to others darkbeaver,I'm talking to you , don't judge the others..It doesn't matter what you consider yourself to be or what your contributions are/were;it all starts with you ' you are the world .

If I don't judge I cannot assign threat relative values and that would leave me open to harm, assesment is vital to survival, you'll not survive forgetting a fundemental like that, every little bird knows that at the cellular level. How is it that you do not? I am the universe indivisable, all knowing,omnipotent, enormously tiny, faster than a speeding arrow, gracefull charming and handsome beyond comprehension. What's that sound? Oh it's the buzzer. Time for my sponge bath and pills now.:smile:

 

[Northboy]

The forum is full of people who will be happy to tell you why your ideas will not work. People who will laugh at you for daring to dream big dreams. People who will call you crazy for pursuing your goals.Just ignore them. Their pettiness and mean spiritedness is their problem, not yours. Sadly, some people take delight in destructive criticism. Constructive, caring criticism is very useful and necessary. But criticism for its own sake is something to simply ignore.Small minded people think that somehow they can improve their own lot by putting down others. Small minded people have a zero-sum mentality -- they believe that people gain success only at the expense of others.Nothing could be further from the truth.True success comes only from providing something of value to the world. Your dreams, your ambitions do not diminish the lives of others. When you improve your own life, you cannot help but improve the lives of those around you.But I'm not too sure if it works in Canada.

I sense your diffidence and frustration;

China, what is your dream?

After following your posts for some time (while I've been too busy doing positive "stuff" to engage), but I seem to be watching your frustration build over the months.

You're right of course, we need a global vision or at least some vision for our individual nations. You don't think this is possible in Canada? My friend, if not in Canada, then nowhere....But there's more that goes on in Canada than is posted on this portal....

With respect, I ask you to share with me your vision...You never know, I just may be able to help....And in helping you with your vision, we may both gain some wisdom....

 

[darkbeaver]

China, how do you keep your self positive when you live in a country that attaches less value of life then a burning inferno?

Are you hittin the jug again?:smile:

 

[darkbeaver]

darkbeaver ,
too bad that you can't find anything positive in the post darkbeaver.

Come on China that's not exactly correct. All I object to is the contention that positive be separated from negative when in fact what is always contains the two and both are only human concepts that do not reflect the true nature of reality which you have spoken about at length in other threads, they are inseperable. Where we find the good we will also find the bad, where we find the dark we will also find the light etc. In fact those we consider very positive people are at the same time aware of a proportional but equal negativity. It's my belief that positive is built on or drawn from negative, if there were no negative how could there be positive?
I heard a Buddist speak some time ago on the radio her lecture was called Do Not Be Afraid of The Dark, she said no understaning was complete without a study of the dark aspects of life.

 

[MikeyDB]

In fact Beave there's a sound argument that some of the geatest...some of the most significant and magnificient works of art are product of negative dynamics. When we read great works of literature and marvel at the paintings tapestries and sculpture of generations of artists from all over the world, there's frequently a sub-current of sadness and remorse, anger and defensiveness that lurks behind the artistic statement. From the Greeks to the British French and Italians, images conveyed through art that arises from an acknowledgement and acceptance of the cruel the barbaric and the sorrowful are abundant. If a picture is worth a thousand words, the paintings of Christ's suffering and the staggering quantity of religious iconology that's been created to tell us something about ourselves encompasses the beauty and the horror of the human sojourn.

 

[Kreskin]

I wonder how much Rembrandt's "Descent from the cross" would fetch at an auction. Probably more than a Bob Ross landscape. (not that this has any relevance whatsoever)

 

[talloola]

So, what do happy upbeat positive people paint, 'happy faces'? or?, maybe they are too
busy having fun and don't have time to be paranoid, miserable, and depressed.

 

[L Gilbert]

Those who are negative make a lot of noise about how bad things are. Those who are positive quietly and steadily make a lot of real improvements and contributions to life.There are always problems and there are always challenges. And there are always people willing to transform those challenges into great opportunities.Those who have the courage, commitment and discipline to follow their own best dreams, bring the rest of the world along with them. Those who choose to do the best they can with what they have, create a better life for everyone.For every high-profile guru of doom who wails about how hopeless and unfair life is, there are millions of others working tirelessly to make life better than ever. For every frightening crisis that is breathlessly reported, there are millions of real, meaningful success stories that don't get noticed, but that do have enormous positive influence.Negative people obsess over the past while positive people work their way eagerly toward the future. Life gets better and better when you choose to make it so, and the future is bright indeed.

Sounds like a lot of negative whining about negative people to me. lol

 

[darkbeaver]

Sounds like a lot of negative whining about negative people to me. lol

Beautiful condensation Les, that's exactly what it is.

 

[darkbeaver]

So, what do happy upbeat positive people paint, 'happy faces'? or?, maybe they are too
busy having fun and don't have time to be paranoid, miserable, and depressed.

but how do they get to be positive happy faced people? is it just spontaneous or does something compell them in the positive direction?

 

[darkbeaver]

In fact Beave there's a sound argument that some of the geatest...some of the most significant and magnificient works of art are product of negative dynamics. When we read great works of literature and marvel at the paintings tapestries and sculpture of generations of artists from all over the world, there's frequently a sub-current of sadness and remorse, anger and defensiveness that lurks behind the artistic statement. From the Greeks to the British French and Italians, images conveyed through art that arises from an acknowledgement and acceptance of the cruel the barbaric and the sorrowful are abundant. If a picture is worth a thousand words, the paintings of Christ's suffering and the staggering quantity of religious iconology that's been created to tell us something about ourselves encompasses the beauty and the horror of the human sojourn.

Art demands the pain of negativity dosen't it? All progress demands pain? No pain no gain. Case closed. Bring in the guilty one known as China. He's not here. Well we'll just sentence him in abstensia to be tickled with an ostrich feather till he passes out.

 

[talloola]

but how do they get to be positive happy faced people? is it just spontaneous or does something compell them in the positive direction?

Can only speak for myself, as, when I get 'down', something has made me sad, or worried,
it can be a very miserable experience, but, that can only last for a short period of time,
and 'something' inside of me begins to fight that, and I become stronger and find a
balance, can't stay down too long, it's like giving in, there is always a way out, always a
better way, always have to fight my way back to normal, maybe it's having seen others
throughout my life wallow in the depths of depression, and misery, and moan and groan
that 'nothing' is good and life is over, I can't accept that.
The same attitudes come to me through the TV, nothing but suffering and war and misery, and always seems to be the threat of a new one, as though it would be unatural
for all countries to like each other, I just shake my head, smile and go about my
business, as we are lucky and smart to have our good life here in this country.
I will not be depressed about what others are doing around the world, but
I do have deep compassion for those who suffer. I am truly a positive person, and I
am thankful for that, good genes I suppose, my positive side outways my negative
side by a large margin.
I can get angry though, which is something entirely different, but that also, doesn't
last very long.