insignificant said:
and most of the ridings. That why we need full proportional rep and not stv.
NDP Have BIG plans in BC again!!!
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and most of the ridings. That why we need full proportional rep and not stv.
insignificant said:
But Glen Clark was found NOT GUILTY. Campbell Pleaded Guilty. Campbell is the one with a record not Glen Clark.
And further more 16 years ago or so when I was battling the government over "job training" none of my local Social Credit (now liberal) mla's, or federal "Reform/Alliance" mp would not help me. The only person who did was Nelson Riis the NDP MP from Kamloops. He phoned me personally and helped resolve my problem. And he was not even my MP, he was an mp 250 miles away. My local neo con ConservativeMP and ex lib mla Dr. Cheema never answer e mails and could care less what I think. I also know when my brother was having trouble with compo Jenny Kwan helkped him immensly but the local liberal mla? He could care less.
Just because he was found not guilty doesn't mean he was innocent of the charges.
I admire a man who admits his mistakes. Campbell also promised never to take another drink, and the lack of screaming headlines tells me he's kept that promise.
Who here can honestly say they've never driven after a few drinks? The only difference is that we were lucky enough not to have gotten caught.
If we had, would we have pleaded guilty.... or hired a lawyer to fight the charge?
I admire a man who admits his mistakes. Campbell also promised never to take another drink, and the lack of screaming headlines tells me he's kept that promise.
Who here can honestly say they've never driven after a few drinks? The only difference is that we were lucky enough not to have gotten caught.
If we had, would we have pleaded guilty.... or hired a lawyer to fight the charge?
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I never said he was innocent. I was just pointing out he was not convicted of anything and has no record, unlike Campbell.
Glen Clark also did not put anyone else's lives in danger as well, unlike Campbell.
I don't understand how so many people try to portray drinking and driving as a minor everyday trivial thing when its not. What if Campbell had killed someone, like many drunk drivers do? Would that change your view?
Also in this weeks TV weeks the Latremouille's were asked about this. They were hosting Campbell in Maui.
"They were expecting him to stay the night after knocking a few back, but just after midnight he told them he was leaving."
Does not sound responsible to me.
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LadyC said:
I never said he was innocent. I was just pointing out he was not convicted of anything and has no record, unlike Campbell.
Glen Clark also did not put anyone else's lives in danger as well, unlike Campbell.
I don't understand how so many people try to portray drinking and driving as a minor everyday trivial thing when its not. What if Campbell had killed someone, like many drunk drivers do? Would that change your view?
Also in this weeks TV weeks the Latremouille's were asked about this. They were hosting Campbell in Maui.
"They were expecting him to stay the night after knocking a few back, but just after midnight he told them he was leaving."
Does not sound responsible to me.
Here is an interesting prediction link. HERE
I lost a lot of respect for Fred and Cathy when I saw them giving an interview on the beach, saying they tried to stop him, even going so far as to say they tackled him to get the keys away. They were also very careful to point out that he was fixing his own drinks.
Some friends. They're lucky Maui has different laws from B.C. where the host is responsible for his guests.
Instead of acting all holier-than-thou, how about you answer the last part of my post... have you ever driven when you shouldn't have?
I have... and I'm aware that I was lucky to have made it home safely.
Some friends. They're lucky Maui has different laws from B.C. where the host is responsible for his guests.
Instead of acting all holier-than-thou, how about you answer the last part of my post... have you ever driven when you shouldn't have?
I have... and I'm aware that I was lucky to have made it home safely.
GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE! In the interest of good taste for this forum I am refraining from about 3000 obsenities! Glen Clark - innocent? try technicalities!
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I never said he was innocent either. I said Not Guilty as there is a diference.
Thats the way the law works. You need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The crown did not prove it, just like they did not with Air India and many other trials.
It is not victimless but it does not kill 4 people a day in Canada like drunk driving does.
Campbell had more than a few otherwise he would not of blown well above legal limit. Your statement makes sounding like driving drunk is ok.
And for the record I do not drive after drinking as I only drink at home. ( I do not and never did really drink much anyways, I prefer pot) I also have not been to Bars in many many years due to the smoking bans and over priced pints.
At the end of the day though Campbell has a criminal record, Clark does not. Thats the way the law works, wether you or I agree with it or not. I admit Clark did some shady dealings but it is not up to me to prove. Its the crown and they did not prove it, plain and simple.
In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. I know some of you seem to have a problem with that concept, but we are a free country.
I never said he was innocent either. I said Not Guilty as there is a diference.
Thats the way the law works. You need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The crown did not prove it, just like they did not with Air India and many other trials.
It is not victimless but it does not kill 4 people a day in Canada like drunk driving does.
Campbell had more than a few otherwise he would not of blown well above legal limit. Your statement makes sounding like driving drunk is ok.
And for the record I do not drive after drinking as I only drink at home. ( I do not and never did really drink much anyways, I prefer pot) I also have not been to Bars in many many years due to the smoking bans and over priced pints.
At the end of the day though Campbell has a criminal record, Clark does not. Thats the way the law works, wether you or I agree with it or not. I admit Clark did some shady dealings but it is not up to me to prove. Its the crown and they did not prove it, plain and simple.
In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. I know some of you seem to have a problem with that concept, but we are a free country.
It does?
Really?
That's what you got out of it?
Campbell has a record, yes. So what? He owned up to his mistake and paid the price.
Clark, on the other hand, weaseled out of it. I don't care that he was found not guilty. As I said, it doesn't make him innocent. And I can't be the only one who thought so... look what we the electorate did to his party.
insignificant said:
Let's see - there's a little over a million in the Lower Mainland, maybe another half-million on the Island. According to my several-years old Rand-McNally, BC's population is/was
3,725,000...
Wanna have another go at it, insig?
Let me guess - you're a "604", right??? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Ten Packs...
Why do you choose to live in the Loops? Can you see yourself moving to 604-land?
Then quit whining that the government forgets about you. The areas you mentioned needed the beds they got. Do you expect us to believe that the rest of the province has been ignored completely?
The fact is, most of the population is concentrated in the bottom left hand corner. The other half is spread throughout the remainder of the province. It makes sense to spend the money where most of the people can access the facilities.
Why do you choose to live in the Loops? Can you see yourself moving to 604-land?
Then quit whining that the government forgets about you. The areas you mentioned needed the beds they got. Do you expect us to believe that the rest of the province has been ignored completely?
The fact is, most of the population is concentrated in the bottom left hand corner. The other half is spread throughout the remainder of the province. It makes sense to spend the money where most of the people can access the facilities.
With all respect, a half-hour ferry ride hardly makes for a different Region, Lady C. What would you call it - the Interior? the North Coast? 8)
The Sunshine Coast.
For the record, I don't consider Squamish part of the Lower Mainland either. Those areas have nothing in common with Vancouver or her suburbs.
But what does the half-hour ferry ride signify? Boundaries have to be drawn somewhere, and it's only a step between any 2 adjacent ones, right? 8)
For the record, I don't consider Squamish part of the Lower Mainland either. Those areas have nothing in common with Vancouver or her suburbs.
But what does the half-hour ferry ride signify? Boundaries have to be drawn somewhere, and it's only a step between any 2 adjacent ones, right? 8)
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Lady C - just over six-weeks ago, my 93-year-old Mom died, after a three-year illness - in which my Dad looked after her at home for all but four weeks - because there was NOWHERE FOR HER TO GO! Damn-near killed my Dad!
I need NO-ONE to tell ME about the "availabilty" of Senior-spaces in the Interior..... :roll:
If you'd like a display of my wrath - keep pushing the point.
LadyC said:
Lady C - just over six-weeks ago, my 93-year-old Mom died, after a three-year illness - in which my Dad looked after her at home for all but four weeks - because there was NOWHERE FOR HER TO GO! Damn-near killed my Dad!
I need NO-ONE to tell ME about the "availabilty" of Senior-spaces in the Interior..... :roll:
If you'd like a display of my wrath - keep pushing the point.
Enron Sig Enron we are being sued because of the ENRON MESS and then we go and hire the thieves does not make any sense .We have thieves running Hydro billing .Calfornia won't pay their bill because of Anderson Accounting the fine people that turned into Accenture Thats wolf taking care of the hen house pretty smelly kind of the same smell as BC Rail sale :?Do you know who the major shareholders are there Bush"s kind of like Cheney is a major shareholder of Duke Energy IE Terrasen Gas smelly man smelly
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Balls - there's lots of people who live in Squamish, and commute to the Big Smoke every day.
Not on your life!!! I grew up there, and got the Hell out of Damncouver by the time I was 20. And I didnt CHOOSE to live in Kamloops, I was transferred here from Vernon. But my wife is a Licensed Insurance Broker, with a very good job, so we're not moving back to Vernon - much as I'd like it.
LadyC said:
Balls - there's lots of people who live in Squamish, and commute to the Big Smoke every day.
Not on your life!!! I grew up there, and got the Hell out of Damncouver by the time I was 20. And I didnt CHOOSE to live in Kamloops, I was transferred here from Vernon. But my wife is a Licensed Insurance Broker, with a very good job, so we're not moving back to Vernon - much as I'd like it.
Ten Packs...
My condolences, again. My Mum had a stroke last fall, and my Dad just underwent his 2nd hip surgery in the last 8 months. I can't imagine how you feel.
There's a serious bed shortage all over the province, and this will worsen as we Boomers get older. I wouldn't want to be the one to choose which areas get the much-needed funds.
My condolences, again. My Mum had a stroke last fall, and my Dad just underwent his 2nd hip surgery in the last 8 months. I can't imagine how you feel.
There's a serious bed shortage all over the province, and this will worsen as we Boomers get older. I wouldn't want to be the one to choose which areas get the much-needed funds.
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Fact is, Squamish has become more of a bedroom community, but it's still an industry town. Most people are employed in the logging/lumber industry. The railroad and port also employ a lot of people.
Regardless, it's not a city, nor is it a suburb.
And many commute the other way, believe it or not.Ten Packs said:
Fact is, Squamish has become more of a bedroom community, but it's still an industry town. Most people are employed in the logging/lumber industry. The railroad and port also employ a lot of people.
Regardless, it's not a city, nor is it a suburb.
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That part, you got right.... I'm not bitching that the LM got all those spaces - just that almost nowhere else DID! The entire Nortth American society is in for one big Damned surprise in about 15 or 20 years, as the boomers (like me), get older and more feeble.
The sh*t will hit the fan, and I see almost NO level of government, above or below the 49th, even thinking about it!
LadyC said:
That part, you got right.... I'm not bitching that the LM got all those spaces - just that almost nowhere else DID! The entire Nortth American society is in for one big Damned surprise in about 15 or 20 years, as the boomers (like me), get older and more feeble.
The sh*t will hit the fan, and I see almost NO level of government, above or below the 49th, even thinking about it!
