NDP Cancels Private Health/Lab Scheme-Return Work To Public Sector

Tecumsehsbones

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I got tons of tools in the toolbox but a hammer n a sickle ain't one.
Bullsh*t. You've already said that the entire spectrum of medical/biological scientists and technicians should only be allowed to work for the government.

You may not have a hammer and sickle in your toolbox, but you sure got that symbol tattooed on your a*s.
 

petros

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mentalfloss said:
Considering you don't even know what a subsidy is, I don't think you should be giving anyone economic advise.
You are the one who doesn't have a clue what one is. Would you like to know?

I'm smart enough to live comfortably without subsidies and just tax credits but your industry gets both.
 

Machjo

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European states with two-tier public health systems outperform Canada's comparatively more one-tier system, but that's a moot point. Quality health care should be of secondary concern. The primary objective ought to be simple acquisition of assets for its own sake. Evidence be damned.
 

Machjo

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Leading question

For the record we need to determine what industries benefit from the private sector and which ones are more appropriate for the public sector. I actually agree with a two tier health care system and but science that is primarily motivated by profit is not really science.

So what does the European example tell you?
 

damngrumpy

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So who tells people where they work? Well they don't its just that the government
will let the funds to the private sector dry up and at some point even the brainless
will get the message the jobs are over there.
I think there is room for both to be an asset to the health field
I no longer trust the private sector to be in charge of research the funds needed
for at risk patients in low prescribed illnesses do not get funded to find cures.
There is a litany of private funded discoveries out there that are under review
they were hurried for the sake of profit alone. Now the serious problems are
manifesting themselves. This is because government researchers funds have
been seriously diminished and oversight is not what it used to be
 

Machjo

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No idea.

Please clarify.

Canada's comparatively one-tier model ranks as the world's 20th best system (not even in the top 20), whereas the top 20 whereas France's and many if not all others in the top 20 are two-tiered. The evidence speaks for itself. The only reason to oppose private involvement is not scientific but ideoligical.
 

taxslave

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Then we should just get rid of them and enjoy deficit after deficit.



Considering you don't even know what a subsidy is, I don't think you should be giving anyone economic advise.

Governments need to learn to live within their means. THey can't keep digging into working peoples pockets everytime they want to do something new.
 

petros

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Justin or Tommy going to tax all 16 rich people in Canada and we can sit on our asses getting high and spinning wax yo.
 

Scooby

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The problem with private sector health is that it victimizes those who need it most, not necessarily with intent, but by design.
Crowing about the virtues of freedom from government's influence, is hypocritical, in that those who do it are very often first in line for help when they fall on hard times.
 

Machjo

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The problem with private sector health is that it victimizes those who need it most, not necessarily with intent, but by design.
Crowing about the virtues of freedom from government's influence, is hypocritical, in that those who do it are very often first in line for help when they fall on hard times.

So how do you explain the European systems outperforming Canada's?
 

taxslave

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Poor management

Poor management by governments. At all levels. It is one thing to have a health care plan like we have but there is no reason why services should be performed by government employees. Hospitals have lots of expensive test equipment that goes unused much of the day due to lack of staff. Their budget system is all wrong as well since there is no interest in efficiency.
 

Scooby

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The human race is at its most productive point in history, the poor are much better off than they were 50-100 years ago. Yet there is an ever increasing contempt between working people.
Kinda like dog's fighting for meat eh?