NATO warned to start paying its bills

Murphy

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By the 1980s NATO had evolved into a US dominated organization for intimidating the USSR and it still plays that role in regard to modern Russia. Not only did NATO vastly outspend the USSR and its allies, but NATO's strategy of "Forward Defence" rather than defence in depth created a very aggressive posture so far as the Warsaw Pact was concerned. As I said, NATO provided the USA with a very cheap bulwark against the USSR, allowing it to focus much of its military spending on other areas, such as building up its fleets of aircraft carriers to project a global presence; one that the USSR did not have the resources to challenge. If the US chooses to waste trillions on defence spending that is its business, just as it is Canada's business not to follow suit.

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Your bulwark is the land that Russia, and later, the USSR, wanted to take. In the 1940s and 1950s, Russia was very aggressively looking to expand their union. It was not a matter of the US using Europe. Russia wanted more. With the introduction of long range bombers, intercontinental ballistic missiles, etc., the game changed.

Whether NATO is of any value today is a moot point. Any nation that wishes to remain a member must pay their dues. If you do not wish to pay anymore, or feel that NATO's role is not relevant to the modern age, withdraw. There is nothing forcing nations to remain as members.

Like any club, should you wish to be a member, you pay your dues. If you want to quit, pull out.
 

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Murphy

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Did you see the doctor yet about your medication? This is how the world sees you. A simple trip to get your medication adjusted would solve all your problems.

 

Murphy

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We aren't concerned with your opinion. It is of no consequence. It's the danger you pose to society that concerns us. Your medications need to be examined, adjusted and possibly new ones added.
 

Murphy

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Murphy

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Trudeau government capitulates to the demands of the Trump Administration

Canadians will be forced to spend more on military in the coming years to appease the Orange Bloat and his whinyness about countries not keeping up with the massive waste happening in the US and elsewhere.

Not one person ever asked ‘shouldn’t the US be spending less instead of everyone else keeping up with the waste?’

Nope … we’ll just do what we’re told.

Canada’s new defence policy today and here are the highlights:

  • A 70% increase in defence spending over the next 10 years
  • A staggering 62 billion dollar increase over the next 20 years
  • An increase in the number of fighter jets to be purchased from 65 (under Harper) to 88
  • An increase in personnel in both the regular and reserve forces


    The Trudeau Liberals did not campaign on, and have no mandate for, significant increases in the defence budget. There has been no change in the international security environment since their election to justify such astronomical increases. The only change has been the election of Donald Trump.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/07/canada-increase-military-spending-nato

That might get us to where we would have been, had the government kept up with equipment maintenance. You cannot buy mechanical things and expect that they will last forever.
 

justlooking

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Now that the Soviet Union is gone, there is no real military threat to Europe.


Always have to love guys who write fantastic lies, and then sit back and laugh while their brain dead supporters
just swallow it all.

Would anyone like to explain that sentence to people in Crimea ?
East Ukraine ?
Georgia ?
Lithuania ?
Other Baltic states ?
Poland ?
 

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