My new Native hero, Chief Clarence Louie.

Johnnny

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keep with tradition and keep hunting those moose with snowmachines and the traditional lever action rifle....

You know tonto also means dumb so you come on here calling us dumb be prepared for a for shots back in your direction, chief
 

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... And a computer and big trucks that deliver food to a local store and unlimited medical services on demand and welfare cheques and roads to go to the food banks.
I guess we could revert to nostalgic ways and blow off the fact the majority of money we spend in this country goes to keeping us alive.

Furs are paying well these days. Muskrat is at an all time high.

If I chose to become Type II Diabetic (it from lifestyle choice), how many muskrat skins would it take to pay for my insulin at minimum. How many if I get my leg lopped off or go blind?
 

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keep with tradition and keep hunting those moose with snowmachines and the traditional lever action rifle....

You know tonto also means dumb so you come on here calling us dumb be prepared for a for shots back in your direction, chief
and I suppose you build those machines, ah! Another misconception. Remember your history... the aboriginal nation have not been in moratorium,we like every other people have worked in building this country and have given up more than most. So don't give that crap about your personal input to the advancement of the technology.
 

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If you want too build them you can no one is forcing you too, they call it a job where i come from.... What do they call it where your from? Forced labour becuse nothing at the supermarket is free? Is that why you hate clarence spence becuase he practices the white mans economics?

And to be honest ive met more natives that have more technology on their person than i own in all of my possesion.... I guess im becoming uncivilized O_O

Are you one of those natives who claim they are trying to save their culture, but yet know nothing at all about their culture and just spend their time dressed like 50 cent acting all gangsta like the boys?
 

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I guess we could revert to nostalgic ways and blow off the fact the majority of money we spend in this country goes to keeping us alive.

Furs are paying well these days. Muskrat is at an all time high.

If I chose to become Type II Diabetic (it from lifestyle choice), how many muskrat skins would it take to pay for my insulin at minimum. How many if I get my leg lopped off or go blind?

Maybe the hospital will accept a chicken and a few jars of preserves like they used to way back in the day
 

petros

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Are you one of those natives who claim they are trying to save their culture, but yet know nothing at all about their culture and just spend their time dressed like 50 cent acting all gangsta like the boys?

What is the culture?

Those guys who trapped/hunted fur and whales, harvested meat, fish and crops who SOLD the products to Hudson bay Company and the North West Company 350+ years before there was a Canada were SELL OUTS and had JOBS as and rapers and pillagers of the environment?

Who the hell are these "Keepers of the Earth" we keep hearing about?

The culture for the past 500+ years has been a working culture. WTF happened?
 

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The blame game.
Well identified in Sociology 101 as a “Culture of Helplessness”.

First Nations in Canada have on an ethnicity basis some of the highest rates of:
Child abuse.
Spousal assault.
Incest rates.
Murder.
Incarceration rates.
Alcoholism.
Drug and substance abuse rates.
Fetal alcohol syndrome.
School drop out rates.
Illiteracy.
Social services dependency.

And on and on the horrible list goes.
It’s gut wrenching.
And it’s truly a national shame.

And some vested interests say it’s all whiteys fault.
But whitey isn’t all that snow white these days.
Walked around TO or Van city lately?
Whitey is more pinky, whitey, yellowish, light brown, medium and dark brown followed by last but certainly not least by black.
Jewish, Sunni, Buddhist, Animist, Shia, Greek Orthodox, Wiccans, Taoist, Hindu, Gnostics and Dervishes.
And lets not forget the good old beleaguered white bread Catholics.
Its like trying to categorize grains of sand.

I assume that it is probably difficult to explain to a refugee of Pol Pot’s Cambodia, a rape and robbery survivor, every living relative exterminated, survivor of the refugee camps and now a grateful Canadian immigrant how he is now a “squatter” and owes another ethnic race compensation because of his “ abuses”.

And how about the descendants of the black slaves that took the underground railroad into Canada?
And they now owe on a purely ethnic basis?

In my view the Indian Act is probably the most racist document enshrined in the Federal Government today.
Time for a complete re-do.
 
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layzingin

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If you want too build them you can no one is forcing you too, they call it a job where i come from.... What do they call it where your from? Forced labour becuse nothing at the supermarket is free? Is that why you hate clarence spence becuase he practices the white mans economics?

And to be honest ive met more natives that have more technology on their person than i own in all of my possesion.... I guess im becoming uncivilized O_O

Are you one of those natives who claim they are trying to save their culture, but yet know nothing at all about their culture and just spend their time dressed like 50 cent acting all gangsta like the boys?
wow! you have a chip on your shoulder. Take a deep breath, relax. Think rather than react.

The blame game.
Well identified in Sociology 101 as a “Culture of Helplessness”.

First Nations in Canada have on an ethnicity basis some of the highest rates of:
Child abuse.
Spousal assault.
Incest rates.
Murder.
Incarceration rates.
Alcoholism.
Drug and substance abuse rates.
Fetal alcohol syndrome.
School drop out rates.
Illiteracy.
Social services dependency.

And on and on the horrible list goes.
It’s gut wrenching.
And it’s truly a national shame.

And some vested interests say it’s all whiteys fault.
But whitey isn’t all that snow white these days.
Walked around TO or Van city lately?
Whitey is more pinky, whitey, yellowish, light brown, medium and dark brown followed by last but certainly not least by black.
Jewish, Sunni, Buddhist, Animist, Shia, Greek Orthodox, Wiccans, Taoist, Hindu, Gnostics and Dervishes.
And lets not forget the good old beleaguered white bread Catholics.
Its like trying to categorize grains of sand.

I assume that it is probably difficult to explain to a refugee of Pol Pot’s Cambodia, a rape and robbery survivor, every living relative exterminated, survivor of the refugee camps and now a grateful Canadian immigrant how he is now a “squatter” and owes another ethnic race compensation because of his “ abuses”.

And how about the descendants of the black slaves that took the underground railroad into Canada?
And they now owe on a purely ethnic basis?

In my view the Indian Act is probably the most racist document enshrined in the Federal Government today.
Time for a complete re-do.
You can see why it is important, no matter how big you think you are, not to debase anyone. In any context. I think Mr Louie did just that and he needs to apologize.
 

petros

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wow! you have a chip on your shoulder.
A chip? No. I'd say he has a stump on his shoulders, we do similar work in places you can only get to by helicopter or canoe and work with the people that live in the places you can only get to by air or canoe.

The minerals and oil of the earth are the new muskrat and beaver.
 

layzingin

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keep with tradition and keep hunting those moose with snowmachines and the traditional lever action rifle....

You know tonto also means dumb so you come on here calling us dumb be prepared for a for shots back in your direction, chief
Tonto is a metaphor to the Hollywood stereotyping of the native; he wasn't dumb, he was made a passive yes man to the lone ranger. Tonto's common retort was "kemo sabby" I can only guess it meant master...?
 
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petros

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Tonto is a metaphor to the Hollywood stereotyping of the native; he wasn't dumb, he was made a passive yes man to the lone ranger. Toronto's common retort was "kemo sabby" I can only guess it meant master...?
What do you have against crime fighting Indians on TV?
 

layzingin

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If you want too build them you can no one is forcing you too, they call it a job where i come from.... What do they call it where your from? Forced labour becuse nothing at the supermarket is free? Is that why you hate clarence spence becuase he practices the white mans economics?

And to be honest ive met more natives that have more technology on their person than i own in all of my possesion.... I guess im becoming uncivilized O_O

Are you one of those natives who claim they are trying to save their culture, but yet know nothing at all about their culture and just spend their time dressed like 50 cent acting all gangsta like the boys?
I think you mean Mr louie.

What do you have against crime fighting Indians on TV?
Metaphor petro, metaphor...
 

Johnnny

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I see i hit the nail on the hammer....
and now a grateful Canadian immigrant how he is now a “squatter” and owes another ethnic race compensation because of his “ abuses”.

exactly..

Ive always wondered what the natives would do when the white man is a minority and how the other ethnic groups will react to this" you us for living here" attitude...

And whats with the attitude ive seen from some keeprs of the land who brag about shooting everything on the reserve? :lol:
 

Johnnny

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nope i dont speak, ojibway .... Also im not here throwing either of those languages words up in your face, like you tonto.... Please dont detract...

Ive actually been thinking of learning the cree alphabet because well tht would be an assest in the north

by the way lazyingin, why such a dumb name to post with? Are you even native?

Also im not ignorant at all about your histories and cultures... Ive learned the histories and have learned alot of the tricks of the bush... I know the majority of all the natural remedies and foods growing wildly in ontario....

I would support you guys but ive had so many bad experiences with racist natives that its becoming difiicult to well... you know....