Murdered and missing aboriginal women report 'groundbreaking,' advocates say

[damngrumpy]

In this case I do agree with an quivery this is about justice first and i think we
can find out more and work toward prevention of the strings of murders not
all murders that is impossible. I also don't think just labelling people from the
reserve is an answer either. Not all people living on the reserve are a problem
ame as not all but some people living in upscale communities are scoundrels

 

[personal touch]

what report are we talking about?I could not get on the link to see what report the excitement is all about.
I agree with some of the readers,making an opinion on a report which one has not seen may be premature,there is so much to consider when assessing information design,such as authors,sources,references,time factors,money application,legislation mobilization,cartoon authors,the list is plenty.The use of self interested reports is something to consider,it is one of the oldest and loyalist procedures to mobilization of party policies.
I for one was very disappointed with one of the RCMP report,this report came out about 6 months ago,this report was regarding missing and murdered aboriginal women with some general poplulatlion facts.Lots of graphs,numbers,but i did notice some things missing,what was missing was the procedure of information collection and handlling within the report.
what disappointed me about this report is the RCMP's lack of identification or owness of responsibility of administrative factors which enveloped and incorporated itself into the vast number of cases of missing and murdered aboriginal women,the RCMP minimized their contribution in the lack of response to a national tragedy,hence the handling,collection,cordination and response of information to this tragic and shameful history needs close and attentive observation.The only way Canadians are going to get some resolve,is through a public inquiry,the recent report examples more then ever the need for a public inquiry,the self interest publications are just not making the mark.

what is important to all Canadians,and should be of concern to all Canadians regarding this inquiry,
is the same methods of adminstrative prejudices of information handling is not limited to aboriginal and murdered women,the RCMP have used certain methods of unaccountability by using administrative information process's which harbour and engage discrimatory response, particularly within the handling and interpretation of information.
Many Canadians have been cheated of fairJustice process by fancy foot information application,Aboriginal women are not alone
addressing these methods within the inquiry and making the institution of Justice more accountable to the information process is a benifit to all Canadians.
as Canadians we should lobby and endorse a Public Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Aboriginal women,this is our only salvation,(for more then one reason),as Canadians we will never have opportunity to have a bird's eye view of information handling within the RCMP, or the discrimatory practices which come with these methods of information handling,this I believe this is the reasoning for denying Canadians fair process,the attitudes of women in general will be exposed,with supporting administrative practices to place creditability to this statement.
Possibly with this inquiry we will be blessed with some improvements on how information is collected,handled and responded to, and possibly families will not have to suffer with the injustices delivered within the information proces's administered,the benifit of this inquiry is not limited to aboriginals,allCanadians should win if the design is correct.

 

[mentalfloss]

That is exactly what it will be. We know what the problem is and the police have a good idea of who is mostly responsible but to say so would be racial profiling. I can't wait to see the wording they use to avoid such an un PC result. The money would be much better spent on more policing and education.

And what if there is something important to come out of this?

 

[Angstrom]

And what if there is something important to come out of this?

That males are animalistic bastardized rapists?
Yes we already know we aren't supposed to be turned on by none consensual sex.

Nature dose not give a damn what's acceptable.

 

[personal touch]

That males are animalistic bastardized rapists?
Yes we already know we aren't supposed to be turned on by none consensual sex.

Nature dose not give a damn what's acceptable.

ignorant once again,what are you saying?What males are animalistic bastardized rapists?Did i miss something?
I am scared to ask about the next line.

 

[spaminator]

Loretta Saunders' killers sentenced
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First posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:47 AM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 02:51 PM EDT
Loretta Saunders' murder was "despicable, cowardly and pointless," the judge said before sentencing her killers Wednesday, The Chronicle Herald reports.
Judge Josh Arnold called Saunders an important member of society whose life impacted many.
The 26-year-old Inuk woman was a Saint Mary's University student working on a thesis about murdered and missing aboriginal women. She was also pregnant.
Blake Leggette, 25, and Victoria Henneberry, 28, killed Saunders in February 2014 when they couldn't afford to pay rent on the Halifax apartment they subletted from Saunders.
Her body was found two weeks later in a hockey bag on the side of a New Brunswick highway.
The couple unexpectedly pleaded guilty last week on the day their murder trial was to start. Leggette pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and Henneberry to second-degree murder. Both carry a mandatory life sentence.
Leggete will have to serve 25 years of his sentence before he's eligible for parole. Henneberry will have to serve 10 years, Arnold said.
In an apology read to the court and quoted by The Chronicle Herald, Henneberry apologized to Saunders' family, saying the guilt has "eaten her alive."
"As much as I wish that I had left the apartment, ran as fast as I can and told someone, I didn't," she said.
Leggette also apologized to the family, saying he was praying for them.
He also said that during the brief time he knew Saunders, she was kind and "I thank her for that kindness."
As Legettte and Henneberry left court, some of Saunders' relatives yelled expletives at the killers.
Earlier Wednesday, Delilah Saunders tried to share her victim-impact statement in court, but she couldn't help but start screaming, "You stole my sister!" The Chronicle Herald reported.
Delilah was reportedly unable to read her entire statement even after the judge declared a recess. Minutes earlier, her mother Miriam took the stand to explain how Loretta's murder has affected her and the family.
"I just want the pain to go away," Miriam said, according to the report.
Mourners hold a photo of Loretta Saunders on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Wednesday, March 5, 2014. (Tony Caldwell/QMI Agency, file)

Loretta Saunders' killers sentenced | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

 

[personal touch]

as indicated on previous"other"reports,the ranks of the RCMP,and now with the Military recent highlighted reports of sexual harrassment,it would be indicative these public serving agencies do not take a path of concern for welfare of women to higher ground.
With this being said,why would Canadians think these attitudes would not be carried over to attitudes in due proces of missing and aboriginal women,or any women for that matter?The RCMP cannot even protect their own,how they suppose to protect anyone else.
Attitudes determine priorities of process,this is why usually like minded people are appointed through the ranks of process,to carry through on attitudes which are linked to poltical policies.
where one lives will assit with these process's.
In my home town there was a murdered aboriginal woman,noone was arrested,but many conversations of "who done it" were heard,it always went back to the same name,one must wonder if this person was investigated,his name was a long time "affilated"name,it had creditable association,a long timer,a privledged individual, the list is endless in why there may have been bias investigation,or I assume probably no investigation.
This was the 80's when aboriginal women were really neglected.
*rocess's are established through attitudes,
with the RCMP and now the MIlitary bad behaviour in the open, it would be safe to assueme,"to expect the administrators to bend to the public when they can not bend to their own,is a little too much wishful thinking, would you agree?

 

[Dixie Cup]

what report are we talking about?I could not get on the link to see what report the excitement is all about.
I agree with some of the readers,making an opinion on a report which one has not seen may be premature,there is so much to consider when assessing information design,such as authors,sources,references,time factors,money application,legislation mobilization,cartoon authors,the list is plenty.The use of self interested reports is something to consider,it is one of the oldest and loyalist procedures to mobilization of party policies.
I for one was very disappointed with one of the RCMP report,this report came out about 6 months ago,this report was regarding missing and murdered aboriginal women with some general poplulatlion facts.Lots of graphs,numbers,but i did notice some things missing,what was missing was the procedure of information collection and handlling within the report.
what disappointed me about this report is the RCMP's lack of identification or owness of responsibility of administrative factors which enveloped and incorporated itself into the vast number of cases of missing and murdered aboriginal women,the RCMP minimized their contribution in the lack of response to a national tragedy,hence the handling,collection,cordination and response of information to this tragic and shameful history needs close and attentive observation.The only way Canadians are going to get some resolve,is through a public inquiry,the recent report examples more then ever the need for a public inquiry,the self interest publications are just not making the mark.

what is important to all Canadians,and should be of concern to all Canadians regarding this inquiry,
is the same methods of adminstrative prejudices of information handling is not limited to aboriginal and murdered women,the RCMP have used certain methods of unaccountability by using administrative information process's which harbour and engage discrimatory response, particularly within the handling and interpretation of information.
Many Canadians have been cheated of fairJustice process by fancy foot information application,Aboriginal women are not alone
addressing these methods within the inquiry and making the institution of Justice more accountable to the information process is a benifit to all Canadians.
as Canadians we should lobby and endorse a Public Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Aboriginal women,this is our only salvation,(for more then one reason),as Canadians we will never have opportunity to have a bird's eye view of information handling within the RCMP, or the discrimatory practices which come with these methods of information handling,this I believe this is the reasoning for denying Canadians fair process,the attitudes of women in general will be exposed,with supporting administrative practices to place creditability to this statement.
Possibly with this inquiry we will be blessed with some improvements on how information is collected,handled and responded to, and possibly families will not have to suffer with the injustices delivered within the information proces's administered,the benifit of this inquiry is not limited to aboriginals,allCanadians should win if the design is correct.

If what you say about the RCMP report is true, then the RCMP need to be investigated about their tactics, observations, attitudes, etc., etc. How an inquiry into missing aboriginal females is going to enlighten us, without said investigation into the police force charged with investigating said missing women, remains questionable don't 'cha think?


I tend to agree that there are those that aren't getting the answers they want and are driving this questionable "inquiry" thingy. An inquiry will not make any difference.


I've often wonders how cooperative the indigenous people have been with police to help in solving these cases? Wanna bet that's part of the problem?


JMHO

 

[pgs]

If what you say about the RCMP report is true, then the RCMP need to be investigated about their tactics, observations, attitudes, etc., etc. How an inquiry into missing aboriginal females is going to enlighten us, without said investigation into the police force charged with investigating said missing women, remains questionable don't 'cha think?


I tend to agree that there are those that aren't getting the answers they want and are driving this questionable "inquiry" thingy. An inquiry will not make any difference.


I've often wonders how cooperative the indigenous people have been with police to help in solving these cases? Wanna bet that's part of the problem?


JMHO

You can't make political hay out of common sense .

 

[XF1]

I've often wonders how cooperative the indigenous people have been with police to help in solving these cases? Wanna bet that's part of the problem?
JMHO

As someone familiar with law enforcement and having spent a considerable amount of time living on reserves in Canada, I can tell you that you're right. These cases haven't gone unsolved for lack of effort but because of the complexities involved in solving them. Anyone thinking that a police service in general just chooses arbitrarily to not properly investigate crimes involving First Nations obviously has no policing experience and knows very little about the job or the communities in question.

Witnesses are unreliable at best, and extremely difficult to locate or get answers from at all at worst. Before painting "white" police officers with a broad brush as being largely racist try to understand what it's like to try and get answers from a populace of folks who distrust anyone and everyone, who often have rudimentary understanding of the english language or the rule of law for that matter, and who rarely settle in one dwelling/community/county/province for a long enough time for a proper investigation to be thoroughly conducted.

Often there is coercion in small communities, there is ostracization within families and communities against those seen as being forthcoming with government agencies - there are threats of violence not only against individuals but also relatives of potential witnesses. Then there are language barriers, and substance abuse issues that lead to either false testimonies or faulty statements or unclear conclusions or misdirected allegations that stem from an entirely other issue.

Add to all of that internal band politics and decades of hard feelings over a myriad of "injustices" felt on behalf of First Nations peoples (whether justified or coming completely from left field or somewhere in between) and you've got a mess that any given "inquiry" will never be able to unravel.

The problem is systemic, sure, but not in ways a lot of folks on the left would like to categorize it - it's not something that can be rationalized through black-and-white thinking - there's a lot of gray here.