Most hated western politician

Lineman

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Harpo has never acted like a prime minister, never made an attempt to, so for over two years now all he has been is one of the Marx Bros. His two aides (aides----sickens me to say that for it almost gives him credibility) are Groucho and Zeppo.

.....so since I don't consider him my prime minister he fits in quite nicely....

Well whether he fits into your mold or not until the voters choose otherwise he is the Prime Minister of Canada. Ridicule and name calling may make you feel better but doesn't change reality. Just curious though who do you consider your prime minister?
 

scratch

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Well whether he fits into your mold or not until the voters choose otherwise he is the Prime Minister of Canada. Ridicule and name calling may make you feel better but doesn't change reality. Just curious though who do you consider your prime minister?

Now don't have a cardiac.
The most knowledgeable statesmanlike politician in Ottawa today is Gilles Duceppe.
He handled himself with grace and knowledge in the debates and made Harpo look like he just got out of pre-school.

 

wallyj

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Now don't have a cardiac.
The most knowledgeable statesmanlike politician in Ottawa today is Gilles Duceppe.
He handled himself with grace and knowledge in the debates and made Harpo look like he just got out of pre-school.
Why do some always want to take a poke at Harper? Is there any question that will not lead to childish insults? If you were asked your favorite colour,would you reply along the lines ,yellow just like Harper,or some such drivel. Why do the immature always stray? Is it our educational system or are they just young? Grow up people. On a plus side ,no one has yet brought Bush or the joos into this thread.,,,,I like Duceppe,no matter which Quebec party he decides to run for tomorrow.
 

Lineman

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Now don't have a cardiac.
The most knowledgeable statesmanlike politician in Ottawa today is Gilles Duceppe.
He handled himself with grace and knowledge in the debates and made Harpo look like he just got out of pre-school.

Sorry the "tone" wasn't meant to be harsh, just "matter of fact". We'll have to agree to disagree on the Prime Minister, I have more respect for him than any other recent PM or other wanna-be. I just feel he's the best fit for Canada today. the main reason I became a conservative supporter was the complete disintegration of honesty and integrity of the Liberal party under Mr Chretien.
 

scratch

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Sorry the "tone" wasn't meant to be harsh, just "matter of fact". We'll have to agree to disagree on the Prime Minister, I have more respect for him than any other recent PM or other wanna-be. I just feel he's the best fit for Canada today. the main reason I became a conservative supporter was the complete disintegration of honesty and integrity of the Liberal party under Mr Chretien.

With all due respect to you, the "current conservatives" have a very sordid past. This is nothing to be proud of, and they don't have a plethora of "Gold Stars" to brandish about. Concerning M. Chretien I have no opinion one way or the other. Yet I agree to disagree.
 

Lester

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Ralph Klein, he balanced the budget and eliminated the debt on the backs of the poor and then consistently low-balled oil prices in the budget which prevented proper long-term investment in infrastructure in favour of one-time spending promises.

IIRC, the Stelmach government set oil prices in the current budget somewhere around $76/bbl which means another huge surplus is all but guaranteed, the rest of Canada is going to be squawking about "oil rich Alberta" at the Council of the Federation and this fall my kid goes to a public school with at least 500 kids, no where to put them and the principal won't guarantee any student to teacher ratio.
Gotta agree there, I lost all respect for the man when he got pissed and went down to the homeless shelter and started berating said homeless people- any fool could have done what he did. it has cost us twice as much as he cut to restore these programs/infrastructure
 

darkbeaver

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Sorry the "tone" wasn't meant to be harsh, just "matter of fact". We'll have to agree to disagree on the Prime Minister, I have more respect for him than any other recent PM or other wanna-be. I just feel he's the best fit for Canada today. the main reason I became a conservative supporter was the complete disintegration of honesty and integrity of the Liberal party under Mr Chretien.

This to me is an frightening statement of taste beyond what I can envision. One of us has a problem with selection criteria. It might be me, but of the two you are the one who has been professionaly conditioned to adhere to the pattern of the military industrial complex. In my opinion Mr Harper is a full blown fascist, our trains would run on time if we had any, every delivery to the concentration camps would be cost effective. True respect of honesty and integrity requires familiarity and knowledge. You have in my opinion judged the conservative book by its attractive cover. What you think you see and hear is in fact not there.:smile:
 

Lineman

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And that's the thing, neither of us has any problem with selection criteria, I'm allowed to have an opinion and belief regardless if it differs from yours and then vote my opinion and belief. I'm as familiar and knowledgeable with Canadian politics as most and my difference of opinion with you doesn't negate the fact. I see the Conservative party as the best (but never the only) alternative with what's presented to me now. The Liberals need a good "flushing" of the old guard and to start from scratch.
By the way calling any Canadian politician a Fascist is beyond ridiculous and I dare say in this case a feeble attempt to discredit a Prime Minister you don't care for.
 

Socrates the Greek

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And that's the thing, neither of us has any problem with selection criteria, I'm allowed to have an opinion and belief regardless if it differs from yours and then vote my opinion and belief. I'm as familiar and knowledgeable with Canadian politics as most and my difference of opinion with you doesn't negate the fact. I see the Conservative party as the best (but never the only) alternative with what's presented to me now. The Liberals need a good "flushing" of the old guard and to start from scratch.
By the way calling any Canadian politician a Fascist is beyond ridiculous and I dare say in this case a feeble attempt to discredit a Prime Minister you don't care for.

Good points here Line man, :smile:
 

darkbeaver

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And that's the thing, neither of us has any problem with selection criteria, I'm allowed to have an opinion and belief regardless if it differs from yours and then vote my opinion and belief. I'm as familiar and knowledgeable with Canadian politics as most and my difference of opinion with you doesn't negate the fact. I see the Conservative party as the best (but never the only) alternative with what's presented to me now. The Liberals need a good "flushing" of the old guard and to start from scratch.
By the way calling any Canadian politician a Fascist is beyond ridiculous and I dare say in this case a feeble attempt to discredit a Prime Minister you don't care for.

Well yes of course, you are entitled to an opinion. However as you may have heard one can often run up on the rocks if one acts on an opinion that does not fit the facts. The facts in Mr Harpers case point directly to his fascist nature. Examine his partys work with respect to SPP
agreements and his full and secret negotiations with respect to same, all of this is being done with no public input as NAU is to become a reality very soon. This adherance to fascist ideology puts Mr Harper and his conservative party firmly in the imperialist fascist camp. But don't be sad the useless bloated Liberal party is right in there with them.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Harpo has never acted like a prime minister, never made an attempt to, so for over two years now all he has been is one of the Marx Bros. His two aides (aides----sickens me to say that for it almost gives him credibility) are Groucho and Zeppo.

.....so since I don't consider him my prime minister he fits in quite nicely....

Scratch BRAVO to you pal. :smile:
 

Socrates the Greek

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Well Chretien and now Dion sure have the look of the flying circus...
Now now not so fast, come on the flying circus is all about the Conservatives, nothing to do with the Libs. The Liberals are masters of entertainment and great party hosts at that, while the Conservatives are a bunch of party crashers.
. :-|:smile:
 

Risus

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Now now not so fast, come on the flying circus is all about the Conservatives, nothing to do with the Libs. The Liberals are masters of entertainment and great party hosts at that, while the Conservatives are a bunch of party crashers.
. :-|:smile:
Sorry, the flying circus has already been designated to the liberals...