More young doctors oppose abortions on ethical grounds

talloola

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I completely believe in a woman's right to choose.
I don't think that it can be murder, when doctors can't factually state when "life" begins. But in all honesty, it comes down to a woman's right.
As a woman, I state firmly, that my body belong to me. What happens to it and the choices I make regarding it are up to me. No woman should be forced to carry a child inside them, if they do not wish to do so.
If people or churchs disagree...good on them, but their beliefs should have NO impact on me and my body. If the father is involved, I think he should be consulted 100%, but in the end the decision is the woman's. And I'm sure that that is not an easy decision.
And Tracy, you are a woman of morals, compassion and courage!
My compassion to any woman who has had to make that decision.

I agree 100%, and noone should look to others and 'judge' them, especially people who
are very religious, as you would think they should be the first to have compassion for
others, but unfortunately they seem to be the last, and the 'first' to throw insults.
 

Josephine

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I am against abortion.

All life is sacred, and damned if i will force doctors to get the education to do that.

Its wrong ,evil and immoral.

I would even not allow a raped victim to have an abortion.

Even someone who would die without it.

God bless those doctors who stood by their convictions and let their beliefs known to the sinful monsters.
Well, then I would say it's a damn good thing you have ZERO say in anything that goes on this country!
You must love the little black and white hole you live in. Have you ever known or met a rape victim? How about a 13 year old girl who was raped by her father?
The true "monster" is the person who could look that 13 year old child (her name was Sarah, by the way) in the eye and tell her that she has to carry her daddy's baby to term
 

westmanguy

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I had a girl in High School who was getting an abortion.

Me and my church group buddies, went and paraded her around the school telling her how evil it was to do to a LIFE.

Her guilt got her, and she had a nervous breakdown a few weeks later.

But she still went through with it, and half the class never spoke to her again.. I am not sure what happened to her, I think her guilt caused her to become an alcoholic.
 

Josephine

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I had a girl in High School who was getting an abortion.

Me and my church group buddies, went and paraded her around the school telling her how evil it was to do to a LIFE.

Her guilt got her, and she had a nervous breakdown a few weeks later.

But she still went through with it, and half the class never spoke to her again.. I am not sure what happened to her, I think her guilt caused her to become an alcoholic.
Do you feel like a big man now?
 

westmanguy

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am happy I stood up for what I believed in and that the girl got the karma bite her back for doing something so devilish.
 

Tonington

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I had a girl in High School who was getting an abortion.

Me and my church group buddies, went and paraded her around the school telling her how evil it was to do to a LIFE.

Her guilt got her, and she had a nervous breakdown a few weeks later.

But she still went through with it, and half the class never spoke to her again.. I am not sure what happened to her, I think her guilt caused her to become an alcoholic.

Congratulations on perverting your faith enough to force a young girl into a nervous breakdown, takes a big man to do that. What an @sshole West, seriously. Half the time I don't know if you're serious or not, I can only hope you're lying in some pathetic attempt to rouse people up. Otherwise, I find you despicable, reprehensible and a total worm of a specimen.
 

Josephine

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am happy I stood up for what I believed in and that the girl got the karma bite her back for doing something so devilish.
That wasn't Karma (are you supposed to be believe in karma?) that bit her...it was you and your buddies forcing your personal and religious beliefs down her throat.
I see that you too pick and choose what to believe from the bible. Casting the first stone, loving all of gods creatures...decided to leave those ones out eh?:roll:
 

westmanguy

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i didn`t physically force her to break down.

i was laying down the moral facts.

one of those ``i am so much better than you`` girls who slept around and got knocked up at a party.

She didn`t deserve the easy way out, and if she was taking the easy way, I was going to be damned sure I let her know the concequences at the end of her life.
 

Tonington

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i didn`t physically force her to break down.

i was laying down the moral facts.

one of those ``i am so much better than you`` girls who slept around and got knocked up at a party.

She didn`t deserve the easy way out, and if she was taking the easy way, I was going to be damned sure I let her know the concequences at the end of her life.

Where on Earth or otherwise do you get the idea that it is up to you to teach her a lesson? I really wish this were wreck beach, so I could give you the proper thrashing you 'deserve.'
 

L Gilbert

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I had a girl in High School who was getting an abortion.

Me and my church group buddies, went and paraded her around the school telling her how evil it was to do to a LIFE.

Her guilt got her, and she had a nervous breakdown a few weeks later.

But she still went through with it, and half the class never spoke to her again.. I am not sure what happened to her, I think her guilt caused her to become an alcoholic.
So you're proud to have driven someone to a breakdown and eventually alcoholism? The more you post the less human I think you are.
 

Josephine

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i didn`t physically force her to break down.

i was laying down the moral facts.

one of those ``i am so much better than you`` girls who slept around and got knocked up at a party.

She didn`t deserve the easy way out, and if she was taking the easy way, I was going to be damned sure I let her know the concequences at the end of her life.
well, in all your wisdom, you only showed her the evils of her fellow man. Morals are not facts, they are opinions and values, not everyone shares them... facts are undisputable. What you and your buddies had nothing to do with enlightenment or showing her how evil and bad she is, the purpose was to show yourselves how superiour you think you are.
I find it very interesting how you complain about others not following the bible and being good little christians, and yet a true christian or "child of god" would know of compassion. Your god is the one to lay down judgement...not you.
 
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L Gilbert

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Congratulations on perverting your faith enough to force a young girl into a nervous breakdown, takes a big man to do that. What an @sshole West, seriously. Half the time I don't know if you're serious or not, I can only hope you're lying in some pathetic attempt to rouse people up. Otherwise, I find you despicable, reprehensible and a total worm of a specimen.
Ditto.
 

tracy

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I had a girl in High School who was getting an abortion.

Me and my church group buddies, went and paraded her around the school telling her how evil it was to do to a LIFE.

Her guilt got her, and she had a nervous breakdown a few weeks later.

But she still went through with it, and half the class never spoke to her again.. I am not sure what happened to her, I think her guilt caused her to become an alcoholic.

I'm glad she wasn't stupid enough to let you decide for her. It's a shame someone who espouses being so religious doesn't practice the compassion and forgiveness part. I assume you're just lying with some of your posts, but if this one is true I don't feel anger. I feel sorry for you. It must be so sad spending your life thinking so many people are evil and working so hard to make them feel bad. I would think it was much more rewarding to try to lift people up.
 

L Gilbert

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i didn`t physically force her to break down.

i was laying down the moral facts.

one of those ``i am so much better than you`` girls who slept around and got knocked up at a party.

She didn`t deserve the easy way out, and if she was taking the easy way, I was going to be damned sure I let her know the concequences at the end of her life.
And who the f'k are you to judge what she deserves? Are you some sort of moral authority recognized throughout the world? Hardly: you are simply a self-important, petty, small-minded log of doggiedo who's not fit to stink up the bottom of a real person's shoe.
Ton mentioned that you might be posting your crap just to get a rise out of normal people but I don't care. Even just posting what you do gives you the category of sub-human in my view. I really feel sorry for you that you haven't seen fit to climb the evolutionary ladder up to the full category of being human. But each to his own. Fortunately, most people seek to improve themselves.
 

karrie

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I agree 100%, and noone should look to others and 'judge' them, especially people who
are very religious, as you would think they should be the first to have compassion for
others, but unfortunately they seem to be the last, and the 'first' to throw insults.

*sigh* and I guess as a religious person that's my cue to leave.
 

talloola

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*sigh* and I guess as a religious person that's my cue to leave.

If the shoe fits, but you should be open minded enough to realize that it probably doesn;t
as your posts have never indicated such, so you don't have to take the victims position,
you are stronger that.
 

Toro

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If you can't do your job as a doctor, don't be a doctor. Hand in your lisence and become something else. Same as any other job. Its like going to work on a beef farm and having moral objections to killing cows (perhaps your a buddhist or Hindu and its against your religion). While you may like the rest of your job, feeding and looking after you job, if you can't do your job for moral reasons, then quit. You can't cherry pick the best parts.
What next? Teachers who don't want to teach average or below average students?

Bad analogy. You can "cherry pick" what procedures you do and do not want to do.

Since doctors specialize. Nobody forces them to specialize in a particular area. Nor should they.

Doctors shouldn't be forced to perform abortions if they morally object.

Good for them.
 

Toro

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Curiosity
It's not arguable in any sense. We have sacrificed our children to wars in the name of greed. Where has the great church of this omnipotent creator being been.... Has the influence of the believer community ever prevented one or our global slaughters?
NO

Wrong.

The Catholic Church was a catalyst for the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe.

Well done, Catholics!