More Harper hypocrisy
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Actually, I think the attack ads have more to do with showing Turdeau to be a debutante with his head in fantasyland than being gay. Partisans just like adding spin, though, so they pop up shouting, "anti-gay", "bigotry", etc.
And speaking of partisans, Cobalt seems to have himself so worked into a lather that there's no way he's going to stop the demonizing propaganda crusade and he blatantly ignores the fact that Harpy isn't doing anything that the Gliberals have done before. So trying to get him/her to look at things from a balanced POV is futile.
Like I said, it's spin. Here's what the Star wrote with the spin they added in red: "A swirl of tiny little stars — reminiscent of Tinkerbell’s trail of sparkles — frames the Liberal leader. He’s shown with a goatee, open collar and his jacket slung over his shoulder.
The flyer produced for Conservative MPs to be sent to constituents contains several negative bullet points about Trudeau that are written in a cursive font, while the points lauding Prime Minister Stephen Harper are in a bolder print font.
The letter “i” in Trudeau’s first name is capped with a star in the Conservative materials — like a pre-teen girl might apply to her name."
IMO that's a pretty obvious and pathetic attempt at spin, too. Kind of what you'd expect from a high-school student writing a class assignment on editorialism. Definitely not professional journalism.
And speaking of partisans, Cobalt seems to have himself so worked into a lather that there's no way he's going to stop the demonizing propaganda crusade and he blatantly ignores the fact that Harpy isn't doing anything that the Gliberals have done before. So trying to get him/her to look at things from a balanced POV is futile.
Like I said, it's spin. Here's what the Star wrote with the spin they added in red: "A swirl of tiny little stars — reminiscent of Tinkerbell’s trail of sparkles — frames the Liberal leader. He’s shown with a goatee, open collar and his jacket slung over his shoulder.
The flyer produced for Conservative MPs to be sent to constituents contains several negative bullet points about Trudeau that are written in a cursive font, while the points lauding Prime Minister Stephen Harper are in a bolder print font.
The letter “i” in Trudeau’s first name is capped with a star in the Conservative materials — like a pre-teen girl might apply to her name."
IMO that's a pretty obvious and pathetic attempt at spin, too. Kind of what you'd expect from a high-school student writing a class assignment on editorialism. Definitely not professional journalism.
It was just my inital impression. When you didn't like someone in junior high, you called him a fag. This seems along those lines to me. I'm clearly not the only one to get the impression that the Tories are attacking Trudeau's mascuolinity. It's been remarked upon in other media. I didn't use the term anti-gay or bigotry. I used the term sophomoric, which I think fits better. It was on par with what I would expect o from a bunch of Grade 8's if I wanted them to put together a Trudeau attack ad for me.
That's my point of view. I think it's shared, as evidenced by some stories in the media, and also by the fact that so many Conservatives are distancing themselves from this.
All ya had to say hon was that it was your opinion. There is no chance for your end run now. Best quit while you're behind. Have a shiny day.
I hate to tell you this CK but the Bloc was only there for one term. After that the Reform Party was the official Op and after that the Canadian Alliance wwhich eventually became the CCP after Joe Clark stepped down. During that time and it was when the Reform was the official Op and well after the Referendum that the Liberal party started stuffing money into its pockets at the expense of the Canadian Taxpayer.
Here's the quickest link so that you can brush up:
You really are a revisionist aren't you. Ever heard of the Meech Lake or Charlottetown Accord. If anything, Mulroney was working overtime to try and please Quebec.
As I said, again and again and again and.... groan again. If Justin Trudeau does not have the stuff to put up with attack ads then he should head back to some school and teach home economics or become a male model. His old man wouldn't have flinched in the face of something like this, but then again he isn't 1/10th the leader his father was.
Anyway, I read the rest of your post, but I'm too exhausted to respond further and lets face it. You haven't heard a word I said anyhow.
All ya had to say hon was that it was your opinion. There is no chance for your end run now. Best quit while you're behind. Have a shiny day.
It was absolutely my opinion. This is a place where people post their opinions. Surprise!
P.S.: Fag. :lol:
You make the separatist movement and referendum seem like such a minor thing, Canada barely avoided the same kind of division that took other nations apart in that era. And having another party that was talking about western sovereignty probably didn't help matters much.
Ever hear of NAFTA, I've got plenty of American relatives and friends, more than a few of which were claiming we were about to become part of the US thanks to Mulroney. If the separatists had won that probably would have occurred. Mulroney didn't bring this country together, by the time he was done the conservative party disintegrated and the Bloq was the official opposition.
And as I've repeated over and over, the government isn't there to be Mr. Harper's play thing, Canadians are getting tired of the endless games and no real vision for this country other than it becoming "Harper" Canada.
It's your opinion now. Previously it was implied and spuriously defended as fact.
Umm, no. It was opinion. I said other media had pointed it out--that's the extent I defended it as fact.. That doesn't mean it's fact; that just means some other people have the same opinion, so it may not be unreasonable.
Swing-and-a-miss.
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Why yes, yes I have heard of NAFTA.
Kim Campbell led the PC party into the 1993 where they were decimated by the Liberal Party under Jean Chretienhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chrétien, who had campaigned on a promise to renegotiate or abrogate NAFTA; however, Chrétien subsequently negotiated two supplemental agreements with the new US president. In the US, Bush, who had worked to "fast track" the signing prior to the end of his term, ran out of time and had to pass the required ratification and signing into law to incoming president Bill Clintonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton. Prior to sending it to the US Senatehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate, Clinton introduced clauses to protect American workers and allay the concerns of many House members.
Thus began the Softwood Lumber debacle...
The rest of your post is shrill drama.
So it's all Kim's fault now?
And I'm guessing Chretien had more pressing issues to deal with at the time, like the fact he had the separatist issue dominating everything. It's amazing how a leader- whatever his faults- who was successful in holding Canada together at a crucial point is also blamed for being responsible for everything that's wrong with this country.
Modern conservative thought is amazingly flexible when it comes to avoiding any responsibility it seems, or facts based on the ways the current conservative government operates.
Yes that was it. I was blaming Kim or was I quoting Canadian History?
Dude you sound like a complete zealot freak.
"Hi, I'm a tory pinhead and I just love the Maple Leafs and hate that Justin Trudeau"
This is getting pathetic.
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This is getting pathetic.
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Allan Gregg's take on what's going on with Harper and his government.
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Allan Gregg Speech To Alberta Federation Of Labour Slams Harper Government (VIDEO)
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