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karrie

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The baby was 2720 grams, and 47cm long (her blog). text book weight gain, average baby, fitness blogger for a mom. None of this says she deserves to be body shamed.
 

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I saw a woman who never even showed. 9 months preggers, and she was almost completely flat. She probably never weighed more than 90 lbs in her whole life. She was a friend of my mom's, and I worked with her for a while. She stood about 4'11", and was super petite. She was one of those people that others body shamed most of her life, despite the fact that while she couldn't gain weight if she tried, she also never lost it. .

But, if you're implying this woman never gained during her pregnancy, or that she starved her baby, both her naked pregnancy photos, and the photos of her baby, show she did no such thing.

Obviously you can't prove anything from a few photos, but photos from 4 days after giving birth that seem to show her with about as damn near 0% body fat as anyone might ever be able to achieve does raise questions.

The fact that she promotes herself as a health and fitness model means she is putting herself forward as an "aspirational" figure. "Look how skinny I can stay while having a baby" isn't necessarily a goal people should be aspiring to.
 

karrie

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But her admission to having an eating disorder means nothing? How much of the 10kg is water?



I'm sure you can find out just as easily as I can, what the proportions of a pregnancy are. How much is baby, how much is placenta, how much is amniotic fluid, how much is uterine expansion. It doesn't change the fact that 20-35 lbs is ALL doctors recommend a woman gain in a pregnancy. Most women take pregnancy as a chance to go hog wild (and I won't pretend I wasn't guilty of it). The fact that she stuck with a healthy gain, is not grounds to body shame her.

Obviously you can't prove anything from a few photos, but photos from 4 days after giving birth that seem to show her with about as damn near 0% body fat as anyone might ever be able to achieve does raise questions.

The fact that she promotes herself as a health and fitness model means she is putting herself forward as an "aspirational" figure. "Look how skinny I can stay while having a baby" isn't necessarily a goal people should be aspiring to.

Then tell them not to aspire to that goal.


You see, here's the flaw in the logic.... you can lift women up, empower them to not have stupid unreasonable expectations based on genetic anomalies, without tearing other women down.


It puts me in mind of rabid feminists, who base their 'equality' not on empowering women, but on ripping men down to their level.


Has SHE really done anything provably, tangibly, wrong, other than being proud of her body and what it is capable of?

as damn near 0% body fat as anyone might ever be able to achieve


You might want to go check out how people look when they start getting below 15% body fat, and compare it to her thighs, abs, etc. She's around the 15% mark.
 

karrie

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It's a good thing society has dubbed itself worthy of deciding people's health based off tiny facets of their lives.
 

BornRuff

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Then tell them not to aspire to that goal.

I don't think me running around telling women what they should aspire to really fits into any feminist model either.

I simply don't think it is necessarily great for someone who proclaims to be a model of health and fitness to be promoting staying that skinny throughout pregnancy. If she really has like 15% body fat, that is on the very low end for women normally, much less while carrying a baby.
 

karrie

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I don't think me running around telling women what they should aspire to really fits into any feminist model either.

I simply don't think it is necessarily great for someone who proclaims to be a model of health and fitness to be promoting staying that skinny throughout pregnancy. If she really has like 15% body fat, that is on the very low end for women normally, much less while carrying a baby.


Your body fat shouldn't increase while pregnant.


10-13% is how much body fat women need.

In this case it does because she admitted to it.



Having struggled with an eating disorder, and currently being in the grips of an eating disorder, are not the same thing.




But, keep body shaming people, you're doing wonders for preventing eating disorders for the future generation of women.

I don't think me running around telling women what they should aspire to really fits into any feminist model either.


I wasn't saying you should be doing it for feminism, I was merely pointing out a similarity in mindset. You ARE running around telling women what they should aspire to, I'm suggesting you rethink HOW you're telling them.
 

petros

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You can glean body fat density from a photo?

Mental health issues are no laughing matter and she admits to it and her photos shows it. What makes you think she's cured? Her pot belly?
 

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All adults should do whatever they like with their bodies.

No, they shouldn't. Anorexic people need help. Anorexia is an illness. What they don't need is morons like you encouraging anorexia by telling women who have anorexia to carry on starving themselves because "they can do what they like with their bodies".

We'll never combat anorexia if people like you had their way. I just feel sorry for any woman in your family contracting anorexia. You'll obviously stand by and let your own daughter starve herself to death just so she can be a five stone stick insect.


But, again, you being an Englishman, you believe in forcing "help" on people.

Yes, I do believe help should be forced on people, and so do all right-minded people. You're obviously not a right-minded person and completely lack any morals.
 

petros

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Anorexic people need help. Anorexia is an illness.
It sure is especially when they going around saying "your just fat and jealous" in interviews.

Good thing her baby is 1 oz beyond being considered underweight otherwise people might get ideas.
 

karrie

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You can glean body fat density from a photo?

Mental health issues are no laughing matter and she admits to it and her photos shows it. What makes you think she's cured? Her pot belly?



I'm familiar with body fat percentages and approximating them from muscle prominence, rib appearance, thigh coverage, etc. . I've done this research before because of my sister, when she was struggling with 'exercise bulimia'. I had to open a dialogue. I had to keep an eye, and learn to balance my own idea of what looks good, with what is actually healthy, and what is actually not. Being skinnier than the norm does not mean someone is unhealthy, it doesn't mean she starved her pregnancy, it doesn't mean she's out to shame woman kind.
 

petros

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Ohhhh familiar makes you an expert. I never knew that. I'm familiar with heart surgery. Can I try on you?
 

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It sure is especially when they going around saying "your just fat and jealous" in interviews.

Good thing her baby is 1 oz beyond being considered underweight otherwise people might get ideas.


If it was 1oz overweight she'd probably starve it to make it thinner.
 

karrie

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Ohhhh familiar makes you an expert. I never knew that. I'm familiar with heart surgery. Can I try on you?



I'm not the one making diagnoses about her health, you are. Which, yes, would be a lot like you deciding you can operate on someone because you saw it on tv once.
 

BornRuff

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I wasn't saying you should be doing it for feminism, I was merely pointing out a similarity in mindset. You ARE running around telling women what they should aspire to, I'm suggesting you rethink HOW you're telling them.

Honestly, we all know that the health of expectant mothers and their unborn babies is a hot button issue. She knowingly stepped into that debate by posting for all the world to see how skinny she is 4 days after giving birth.

Discussing these issues around people who knowingly put themselves out there seems more appropriate than going around telling random individual people how they should look.

In the end, is it really so bad to say what I said? A self proclaimed health and fitness expert is showing off how skinny she managed to stay while pregnant, and I commented that it isn't necessarily healthy so it isn't something that people should be aspiring to while pregnant.