Minimum wage hikes could cost Canada's economy 60,000 jobs by 2019

White_Unifier

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Minimum wage hikes could cost Canada's economy 60,000 jobs by 2019 - Business - CBC News

I opposed the minimum wage hike. But, if we insist on it, then basic human compassion and justice requires the state that will have legislated so many people out of work will provide adequate trades and professional education for the unemployed to help them get into better-paying jobs. To just raise the minimum wage and let people starve only causes more harm than good.

Alternatively, we could just inflate the currency as a way to lower the de facto minimum wage, but that causes even more harm than for the state to just provide more trades and professional education to the unemployed.
 

White_Unifier

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We should remember that the Bank of Canada is talking only of legal employment. You can bet that under-the-table jobs will increase too.

But it buys votes from the noncontributors.

And those foolish noncontributors just legislated themselves out of work.
 
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White_Unifier

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Nice.

Where do you buy your morning coffee from?

When you get it tell them to their face they don't contribute.

Oh and go **** your self.

Why not do what Sweden does? It has no official minimum wage, but it invests heavily in trades and professional education for the unemployed, under-employed, and underpaid to get their wages up in the free market. If we just raise the official minimum wage without a commensurate rise in skills, then we're just pushing them out of the legal labour market. That's just basic economics 101. It's not that we don't sympathize. Maybe some low wage workers have been less lucky in life. Okay, fine. But still, how does just raising the minimum wage without helping them to improve their skills help if all we do is legislate them out of the legal workforce?
 

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And unskilled workers will soon not contribute either through no fault of their own because the government will have legislated them out of the legal workforce.

An individual has just as much, if not more responsibility to develop a skill set9s).

Gvt can only supply access to the basic tools, and it is up to the individual to make the most of those tools provided
 

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And those foolish noncontributors just legislated themselves out of work.

And unskilled workers will soon not contribute either through no fault of their own because the government will have legislated them out of the legal workforce.

It seems like you're confusing yourself here.

Are they noncontributors before or after they legislated themselves out of work through no fault of their own?
 

White_Unifier

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An individual has just as much, if not more responsibility to develop a skill set9s).

Gvt can only supply access to the basic tools, and it is up to the individual to make the most of those tools provided

Perhaps. He could always work at a low wage and in his free time expand his skills. But if he can't even find work or at least legal work, then he's forced onto social assistance.

It seems like you're confusing yourself here.

Are they noncontributors before or after they legislated themselves out of work through no fault of their own?

After.
 

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Perhaps. He could always work at a low wage and in his free time expand his skills. But if he can't even find work or at least legal work, then he's forced onto social assistance.

Everyone, without exception, begins their career with few, if any skills.

i don't know how this reality can not be recognized in this conversation relative to the development of a skill set
 

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You still left a contradiction unfixed, but whatever. I'm curious to know how someone is a noncontributor. Do you mean that they just don't have jobs?
 

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Nobody but Taxslave contributes

That's because he's a leftard who loves taxes.

Remember kids... taxslave loooooves taxes!

You still left a contradiction unfixed, but whatever. I'm curious to know how someone is a noncontributor. Do you mean that they just don't have jobs?

Working at Starbucks doesn't count as a job.

Unless your taxslave, who loves paying taxes.
 

White_Unifier

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Many folks find themselves out of work from time to time.

It's not by choice for most.

I agree. raising the minimum wage only increases the rate of forced unemployment (i.e. not by choice unless they're willing to work illegally under the table).
 

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How about a ceiling on wages for like CEOs who make 500 times the wage of their workers?
now you're talking crazy.

Look at the contribution they make running a business the same as anyone else would.

I agree. raising the minimum wage only increases the rate of forced unemployment (i.e. not by choice unless they're willing to work illegally under the table).
it also puts more money into the pockets of the people who are doing the unskilled work.

not sure how that gets omitted for your analysis.
 

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Minimum wage hikes could cost Canada's economy 60,000 jobs by 2019 - Business - CBC News

I opposed the minimum wage hike. But, if we insist on it, then basic human compassion and justice requires the state that will have legislated so many people out of work will provide adequate trades and professional education for the unemployed to help them get into better-paying jobs. To just raise the minimum wage and let people starve only causes more harm than good.

Alternatively, we could just inflate the currency as a way to lower the de facto minimum wage, but that causes even more harm than for the state to just provide more trades and professional education to the unemployed.

Fake News.. or bad management.. cheep bastards.. I just got a #1 hair cut and tipped $5.
 

OmegaOm

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Corporations cut jobs regardless of minimum wage. If there is demand, then they hire to meet supply. Thats it.
If tim hortens has to sell 1000 coffees a day to people. They hire the people to sell it, else they cant sell it. Has nothing to do with wage.

You think corporations are going to keep your job cause min wage is low. They want nothing more then to save costs and cut your job. They just want more and more money.