Mike Duffy's replacement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
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Absolutely.

Each of the provinces should have to consent when we are making changes to the most fundamental characteristics of our Confederation, and I think that we struck the right balance with the establishment of the amending formulae set out in the Constitution Act, 1982. Unanimous consent of the provinces is not required for all amendments, nor should it be; for the most fundamental changes, however, it is an entirely reasonable requirement. Pursuant to section 41 of the Act, these characteristics include:


  • the offices of the Queen, and Her Majesty's federal and provincial representatives;
  • the guarantee of each province to at least as many Commons representatives as it has senators;
  • the use of English and French for federal purposes;
  • the make-up of the Supreme Court of Canada; and
  • the formulae for amending the Canadian constitution.

Everything about the Senate is totally rotten, the make up, the salaries, the tenure, the living expenses allowed and just the fact these people are representing people having a tiny percentage of the income these greedy bastards enjoy!
 

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
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Absolutely.

Each of the provinces should have to consent when we are making changes to the most fundamental characteristics of our Confederation, and I think that we struck the right balance with the establishment of the amending formulae set out in the Constitution Act, 1982. Unanimous consent of the provinces is not required for all amendments, nor should it be; for the most fundamental changes, however, it is an entirely reasonable requirement. Pursuant to section 41 of the Act, these characteristics include:


  • the offices of the Queen, and Her Majesty's federal and provincial representatives;
  • the guarantee of each province to at least as many Commons representatives as it has senators;
  • the use of English and French for federal purposes;
  • the make-up of the Supreme Court of Canada; and
  • the formulae for amending the Canadian constitution.
5P, what would you say to having senators elected by the people of their province?
 

pgs

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Nov 29, 2008
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5P, what would you say to having senators elected by the people of their province?
No that wouldn't do .Us plebes could not possibly select the house of sober second thought . ( and gourging pigs )
 

FiveParadox

Governor General
Dec 20, 2005
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5P, what would you say to having senators elected by the people of their province?

I think that the value in the work of the Senate -- such as its more comprehensive committee research and legislative studies -- is in the fact that the Upper House is long-tenured, and not in a state of perpetual electioneering. So, no, I would not support the election of senators.

What we should do, in my view, is create some sort of independent body -- much like the appointments commission for the House of Lords -- that would be responsible for identifying skills gaps in the composition of the Senate. (For example, deficient in the number of agriculture experts, environmental scientists, scholars, business people, etc.) They would be responsible for the recruitment of candidates for the Senate on the basis of merit.
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
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5P, what would you say to having senators elected by the people of their province?

If we are going to have a Senate at all it has to be in a direct ratio to population and the total number being the minimum it would take to do the job, that way there is a constant pressure on them all to show up. No more "Old Boys' Club".
 

taxslave

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 25, 2008
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Absolutely.

Each of the provinces should have to consent when we are making changes to the most fundamental characteristics of our Confederation, and I think that we struck the right balance with the establishment of the amending formulae set out in the Constitution Act, 1982. Unanimous consent of the provinces is not required for all amendments, nor should it be; for the most fundamental changes, however, it is an entirely reasonable requirement. Pursuant to section 41 of the Act, these characteristics include:


  • the offices of the Queen, and Her Majesty's federal and provincial representatives;
  • the guarantee of each province to at least as many Commons representatives as it has senators;
  • the use of English and French for federal purposes;
  • the make-up of the Supreme Court of Canada; and
  • the formulae for amending the Canadian constitution.

SO PEI has way too many MPs as well as senators?
We got one MP and NO senators for the northern half of vancouver island.
 

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
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SO PEI has way too many MPs as well as senators?
We got one MP and NO senators for the northern half of vancouver island.
But who cares you don't vote Liberal .Why should anyone care .I mean after all it is a free country you know.
Migration is always an option.