McCartney calls on Ottawa to cancel seal hunt

[Jay]

Re: RE: McCartney calls on Ot

I like seal meat, what pisses me off about these lovers of cuddly seal pups is that I didn,t see any of them hugging baby cod. Sure they,re a cute baby animal but if you,re a cute fish you don,t count.

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Dark Beaver and Colpy are agreeing again.

You eat seal meat too? 8O

 

[Jay]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/03/03/williams-mccartney030306.html

 

[Curiosity]

It's a modern phenomenon I guess.

Celebrities seem to believe strumming an electronic guitar heavily backed up by real musicians, while exercising their vocal chords also electronically enhanced by the wonders of technology.......
......improves their minds and intellect?

 

[Jay]

It's a modern phenomenon I guess.

Celebrities seem to believe strumming an electronic guitar heavily backed up by real musicians, while exercising their vocal chords also electronically enhanced by the wonders of technology.......
......improves their minds and intellect?

Well it increases their wallet size.....


I think that Paul thinks all that acid he ate when he was youger did what your talking about....

 

[Curiosity]

Jay

Save us from celebrities mouthing nonsense!

Are their egos so large they feel comfortable in dictating to the public at large?

If so, let them file for a government office and campaign properly.

There has to be a name for it: Acidic regression behavior?

 

[Jay]

There has to be a name for it: Acidic regression behavior?


That's what they told me I suffer from!

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[#juan]

This topic is going on at another forum and I find it funny that a lot of people seem to think the Newfoundlanders are doing this just to upset everyone. The seal hunt dates back to the seventeenth century. There are some who think the seal hunt is already an ecological disaster and if the hunt is stopped, the seal population will climb out of control. Since the Dept. of Fisheries put controls on the hunt the seal numbers have tripled. Admittedly the seal hunt is ugly and killing "cute" little animals will never win any points but these animals would never be killed if there wasn't a market for the fur.

 

[quinton]

Jay says:

Canada isn't over populated.

Prove it. Why do you think Canada is not overpopulated?

Are you saying the special concern, threatened, and endangered species are going to be getting their old habitat back soon?

 

[Jay]

The onus isn't on me to prove it isn't, but on you to prove it is. But.....

Canada is the second largest country in the world and only has 30 million people in it, therefore comparatively, we are no where near over populated.

As far as the endangered species goes....you tell those little critters that if they keep complaining it will only get worse and they will have brought it on themselves!

 

[Jay]

This topic is going on at another forum and I find it funny that a lot of people seem to think the Newfoundlanders are doing this just to upset everyone.

:lol:


Is it a comedy site?

 

[DasFX]

Re: RE: McCartney calls on Ottawa to cancel seal hunt

The onus isn't on me to prove it isn't, but on you to prove it is. But.....

Canada is the second largest country in the world and only has 30 million people in it, therefore comparatively, we are no where near over populated.

As far as the endangered species goes....you tell those little critters that if they keep complaining it will only get worse and they will have brought it on themselves!

Although I do not believe Canada as a whole is overpopulated, I disagree with your correlation between the total population and total area.

Australia is a large nation with just 20 million people, but for the type of land it occupies, this is quite a lot. Many say it is overpopulated already.

Back to Canada, I would say we are not overpopulated, although I think Southern Ontario around the GTA and the areas around Vancouver and Montreal are.

 

[Curiosity]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/03/03/williams-mccartney030306.html

Ex-Beatle has 'long and winding road' to stop seal hunt: minister
Last Updated Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:32:16 EST
CBC News
Federal Fisheries Minister Loyola Hearn is warning pop singer Paul McCartney that he has no sway over the Canadian government when it comes to stopping the seal hunt.

"Let me make it clear," Hearn said Friday when asked about the former Beatle's pressure campaign. "If Paul McCartney thinks he's going to stop the seal hunt, ahead of him there's a long and winding road.


INDEPTH: The Atlantic Seal Hunt

McCartney, who along with his wife Heather visited seal pups in the Gulf of St. Lawrence Thursday, has joined a tradition of international celebrities seeking to bring pressure on the Canadian and Atlantic provincial governments to stop the centuries-old hunt.

The singer is urging Prime Minister Stephen Harper to intervene to halt the practice.


RELATED STORY: Harp seal hunt a 'stain' on Canada, McCartney says


FROM CBC PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND: Visit villages first, not the ice: sealer

The hunting of whitecoats, or newborn harp seal pups whose fur has not yet turned grey, has been illegal since 1987. Older harp seals can be hunted, though, as early as two weeks after their birth.

Supporters of the hunt argue that it provides a living to families living near the sea and warn that seals will multiply rapidly and upset the Atlantic ecosystem if the hunt is stopped.

The federal government estimates the harp-seal population now stands at 5.9 million, up from two million in the 1970s.

Premier to trade jabs with McCartney

In another development, the premier of Newfoundland and Labrador will be on Larry King Live on Friday night to oppose McCartney's anti-seal-hunt views.

Danny Williams's appearance on the CNN talk show was to be taped in advance Friday afternoon.


Danny Williams (file photo)
Radio talk show host Randy Simms of VOCM says he hopes Williams will dispel many of the myths animal rights activists have been spreading. "Let's face it, if these seals look like lobsters, instead of one of those plush toys at a carnival, I get a feeling they wouldn't get as much attention," Simms said on CBC Newsworld. Earlier this week, Williams invited McCartney to meet with him to discuss the commercial hunt, but got no response.


FROM MARCH 2, 2006: Williams seeks to meet McCartney on seals

It was not clear if the premier would get a chance to talk directly to the musician on King's show, even via a remote connection.

A CNN promotional blurb gave no specifics.

"Sir Paul McCartney and his wife speak out against something they call shocking, brutal and horrifying," it said. "What has them so upset? Tune in at 9 p.m. ET."

Williams said in a statement on Wednesday he was frustrated that celebrities "pass judgment on individuals who are participating in an industry that sustains their lives, puts food on their tables, and clothes on their children's backs."

The premier's Larry King Live appearance was to be taped in a CBC studio in St. John's on Friday afternoon.

I hope Larry stays awake through the whole thing...he is inclined to nod off on occasion.

 

[quinton]

Jay says:

The onus isn't on me to prove it isn't, but on you to prove it is. But.....

Canada is the second largest country in the world and only has 30 million people in it, therefore comparatively, we are no where near over populated.

Sure here's some of the most quick and brief proof I can find:

http://www.rom.on.ca/ontario/risk.php?region=5

This is all the species we are wiping out.

Click on a category to see what population growth is doing to our natural heritage.

Yes, Canada, for the type of land it is, is definitely way overpopulated.

 

[Doryman]

Anyone else see the clip where the McCartney's were crawling around after the whitecoat to get a good picture, and it snapped at Heather? :lol: Beautiful...

Even better was when Danny boy invited McCartney to come to Newfoundland some time. Paul replied" But I am in Newfoundland". He was in PEI!!! The rest of what he said was probably well-researched though...

I love how he compared Newfoundlands crimes in the seal hunt to Liverpools crimes processing African Slaves for the American colonies.... Totally similar, huh?

 

[sanch]

It really does not matter what the facts are. The seal hunt and the clubbing of the baby seals are the only Canadian events that many Americans are interested in. To them the argument that the fish stock will be depleted if reins are put on this savagery is not that convincing.

 

[Doryman]

It really does not matter what the facts are. The seal hunt and the clubbing of the baby seals are the only Canadian events that many Americans are interested in. To them the argument that the fish stock will be depleted if reins are put on this savagery is not that convincing.

Most Canadians don't know any better either. Clubbing has been illegal for about thirty years now. Seals are hunted with rifles, not clubs or Hakapiks.

Unless you're native. Then the clubbing is traditional, so it's okay.

 

[Kanadatrapped]

Although his heart is probably in the right place, he has no idea of the economics of the hunt..and with hundreds of millions of dollars (US) in his possession, he has no hunger. It is little wonder he has time to use his iconic image to be a tool of the "anti-everything" lobby, and yet not know he has been hoodwinked!

 

[Jo Canadian]

NOW here is an invitation that McCartney should not turn down!!


Inuk leader invites ex-Beatle to Nunavut

An Inuk leader wants rock star Paul McCartney and his wife, Heather, to take part in Nunavut's seal hunt.

Raymond Ningeocheak, second vice-president of Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated, is urging the celebrity couple to participate in a hunt to learn about Inuit culture and the importance of subsistence hunting.

"He should take part in some face-to-face meetings with Inuit in Nunavut and meet and go along on a hunt, preferably in the higher Arctic region," says Ningeocheak....More

 

[Colpy]

Don't hold your breath.