Mass shootings in Nova Scotia

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Girth said:
Let me rephrase that.
Has lenient gun control laws ever saved people from getting murdered, in an active shooter incident. The man in question in Dayton, shot and killed several people, before engaging with Police. Connor Stephen Betts shot 26 people, killing nine, before being killed. By coincidence, Police happened to be on the scene, and engaged with the shooter 30 seconds after the first shots were fired.
Has anyone stopped a spree killer before he managed to start, or within 10 seconds of opening fire?
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Again, yes. Google is your friend. If you enter the search string "civilian stops mass shooting" you'll come up with dozens of cases, mostly from major news outlets, not wack-job gun nut sites.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Again, yes. Google is your friend. If you enter the search string "civilian stops mass shooting" you'll come up with dozens of cases, mostly from major news outlets, not wack-job gun nut sites.
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Canadians will have to change their search engine to google.com to get your search result!
It's automatic in Canada ... when you click on google you get Google.ca
Different search results!
 
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Police have 'good idea' guns used in N.S. mass shooting were not licensed

Chief Supt. Chris Leather said Wednesday that "we have a fairly good idea that, in Canada at least, he didn't have a firearms acquisition certificate."
It is illegal to own a gun without the proper licence, which federal legislation formally refers to as a possession and acquisition licence.
Leather later said that it's now a key part of the investigation to understand how Gabriel Wortman obtained his weapons, as well as an "authentic" police uniform and a Ford Taurus that was painted in a fashion identical to a regular RCMP patrol car.
The 51-year-old denturist, whose business was in Halifax, began his killing spree in the small community of Portapique, about 40 kilometres west of Truro, late Saturday.
He managed to evade a police perimeter and continued killing people and burning homes in four other communities.
He was finally shot and killed by police at a gas pump in Enfield, N.S., his illegal guns nearby, about 12 hours after the first reports of his attacks at a home in Portapique.
Leather referred the issue of the exact type of guns that Wortman possessed to the acting director of an agency that is investigating the police shooting of the killer.
Contacted late Wednesday, Pat Curran, the acting director of the Serious Incident Response Team said he would look into providing the information about the types of guns Wortman had.
Andrew Somerset, the author of "Arms: the Culture and Credo of the Gun," said in an interview the news that Wortman was using firearms that he wasn't licensed to possess raises fresh issues.....Much More
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Girth said:
Why not show your hand?
I am very suspect of your claims...
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Washington Post do you?

This is from 2015.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/

And here's the Wikipedia article on the frequency of use of guns for defense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

Try the Wikipedia article. I know Wikipedia can be kinda sketchy, but this article is well footnoted, and specifically addresses at some length the reasons why the figures come up with such variability.
 
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Nova Scotia shootings began after gunman attacked his girlfriend, sources say

The killings that began Saturday night in the rural Nova Scotia community of Portapique and ended the next morning with the death of the gunman at a gas station started with domestic violence when Gabriel Wortman attacked his girlfriend, sources tell Global News.
Investigators believe Wortman and his girlfriend were at a party at a nearby home in the Portapique area when Wortman began arguing with her. They left the party and sources believe Wortman escalated the argument back at his cottage — assaulting her and tying her up. She escaped and hid in the woods.

Wortman left his cottage after the assault and investigators believe that’s when the shootings started. He returned to the house where the party was being held and killed several people there, sources said.

Global News has learned that Wortman had access to multiple guns over the course of the rampage — a rifle, a handgun and a shotgun, sources said. Global News does not yet know how he obtained those guns.
Portapique is a small, rural community on the banks of the Cobequid Bay and the Portapique River and just off Highway 2. RCMP said Wednesday they set up two perimeters in the area but at some point in the evening, learned Wortman had made it past undetected.
Police found Wortman’s girlfriend around 7 a.m. local, sources said. It was from her they learned he was likely dressed as a police officer and driving a fake cruiser. She also provided the picture of the vehicle that was widely distributed. The information changed the way police were searching for Wortman.
Police first tweeted about Wortman at 9:04 a.m. local time Sunday. Less than an hour later they tweeted again warning he may be driving what “appears to be an RCMP vehicle & may be wearing an RCMP uniform."....More
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Almost half Nova Scotia shooting victims were killer’s neighbours, records show
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Washington Post do you?
This is from 2015.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
And here's the Wikipedia article on the frequency of use of guns for defense:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
Try the Wikipedia article. I know Wikipedia can be kinda sketchy, but this article is well footnoted, and specifically addresses at some length the reasons why the figures come up with such variability.
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He made it clear the Washington post is not a reliable source.
 
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gerryh said:
He made it clear the Washington post is not a reliable source.
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No, actually that was the Washington Times, which is as hard-right as the Post is center-left.

Just sayin'. It's my town, and that's the editorial and managerial slant of the two largest papers.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
No, actually that was the Washington Times, which is as hard-right as the Post is center-left.
Just sayin'. It's my town, and that's the editorial and managerial slant of the two largest papers.
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Ahhhhhh.... so the article I posted had incorrect info.
 
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gerryh said:
Ahhhhhh.... so the article I posted had incorrect info.
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Didn't say that.

Just said (well, implied, actually) that there is reason to be suspicious of the Times's reporting.

And of course, hereabouts suspicion = GREAT BIG EEE-VIL CONSPIRACEEEEEEEEEE TO LIE TO THE GREAT CANADIAN PUBLIC!
 
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This thread should be more like..

Let's pause for a minute to remember the victims and families left behind to deal with this tragedy.. the worst mass shooting in Canadian history.

Now look for the solution to make sure this never happens again on Canadian soil.
 
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