Martin & the gas tax

[no1important]

I have read their web site and programs blue. Its all talk no action. They are desperate, especially since "H" could not capitalize on Gomery and that people do not care about gomery anymore. I will repost link for you.Voters not interested in scandal

We would become America junior and "H" would be "W" junior. People see that. We would do what the US wanted us to do and when they wanted it. We would be in Iraq if "H" was pm. "H" is also a bigot and a racist.

Thats why the Liberals are close to majority numbers in the polls. In plain english the public see the Libs as the lesser of two evils. Now if some of those lib supporters would go to the NDP we could start really making this country great. But they will stay Liberal as they are scared of what Harper would do.

 

[Reverend Blair]

You have no basis for that claim, and again you exaggerate.

Just going by what the economists and accountants said about Harper's platform during the last election. We can also look south to see what voodoo economic policies like Harper's have gotten them. Or we look to Saskatchewan under the Devine bozos, their policies were very similar to Harper's.

Bluealberta was killed off on this forum, according to some in the know.

We don't "kill" people off on this forum. We are not your right-wing Christian heroes or your neo-fascist conservative leaders.

 

[mrmom2]

:lol: :laughing3: :lol: :lol:

 

[Musicman]

Re: RE: Martin & the gas tax

I have read their web site and programs blue. Its all talk no action. They are desperate, especially since "H" could not capitalize on Gomery and that people do not care about gomery anymore. I will repost link for you.Voters not interested in scandal

At this point, that is true, but I suspect this will change after summer and the closer we get to the election, although that could depend on how Martin is able to have Gomery whitewash and ignore the issues.

We would become America junior and "H" would be "W" junior. People see that. We would do what the US wanted us to do and when they wanted it. We would be in Iraq if "H" was pm. "H" is also a bigot and a racist.

No we would not, but better that than becoming a toady of a socialist or communist country. We already have troops in Iraq, and to deny it is to deny the respect they deserve. And he is not a bigot or a racist, and you are promoting falsehoods by saying so.

Thats why the Liberals are close to majority numbers in the polls. In plain english the public see the Libs as the lesser of two evils. Now if some of those lib supporters would go to the NDP we could start really making this country great. But they will stay Liberal as they are scared of what Harper would do.

If some lib supporters go NDP, and the Liebs get a majority, the West will blow up, and baby, you ain't seen nothing yet. Quebec separatist talk will be like a baby compared to what will happen out West. Especially if they feds keep trying to grab western resource revenue, not just Alberta.

 

[Reverend Blair]

We've heard it all before, Blue. You should learn a new tune, you sound like a red-necked AM radio station that plays the same ten disco-yodelling tunes over and over again.

 

[Musicman]

We've heard it all before, Blue. You should learn a new tune, you sound like a red-necked AM radio station that plays the same ten disco-yodelling tunes over and over again.

Hmmm, that must be a Manitobe station, no disco yodelling on any of my radios. And the old tunes generally become classics, simply because they are the best, so I will stick with the tune that has been proven to be the best classic tune going.

Blue was offed here a couple of months ago. Long Live Blue!

 

[mrmom2]

Musicman I no more care for the Libs than you but Harper 8O Feck theres nobody to vote for your party needs an overhaul as do Canadian politics as a whole :wink:

 

[p106_peppy]

We're never going to ween ourselfs off of gasoline if whenever teh price of it goes up, taxes are reduced.

I say, now is the time to INCREASE the gas tax!

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Blue was offed here a couple of months ago. Long Live Blue!

Blue was fired from his position as token neocon because he was a feckin' moron...perhaps you'd like to apply for the job?

 

[Hard-Luck Henry]

Blue was offed here a couple of months ago. Long Live Blue!

Blue was fired from his position as token neocon because he was a feckin' moron...perhaps you'd like to apply for the job?

Somebody has to get you people on the straight an narrow, and, unfortunately, I was tasked with this uneviable job.

It seems normal service has been resumed, Vanni ...

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Blue was offed here a couple of months ago. Long Live Blue!

Blue was fired from his position as token neocon because he was a feckin' moron...perhaps you'd like to apply for the job?

Somebody has to get you people on the straight an narrow, and, unfortunately, I was tasked with this uneviable job.

It seems normal service has been resumed, Vanni ...

So it would seem, Henry...

 

[Musicman]

Musicman I no more care for the Libs than you but Harper 8O Feck theres nobody to vote for your party needs an overhaul as do Canadian politics as a whole :wink:

Maybe you are right. BUT, and its a big but, we already know what Martin, Chretien and the libs have done and what they will do. Even if you like the NDP, you have to admit their chances are slim and none, and slim is just leaving town, of ever getting elected as the governing party. That only leaves the conservatives. All I hear about the conservative leader is innuendo and old quotes to back the postion that Harper is bad. While he may have had some questionable views some years ago, these have changed, and for the better, in my opinion. It's kind of like being a worker always trying to get into management, and when you get into management, your views change because you have a lot more information than workers do. Happens all the time, so why not cut him some slack? Again, we know what the libs have and will do, but as Harper has not led a government, there is no history to base his expected performance on. The libs promissed to scrap the GST and didn't, but thats okay. Harper makes a comment back in the early 90's when he wasn't even in politics per se, and some make that out to be his position, no matter what he may say today. Why people continue to support a known and proven liar and a corrupt government when there is an option available says something about the integrity of some Canadian voters. Hell, vote em in, and if they do what some here say they will, all within four years by the way, then vote em out again. After all, given the damage that the libs have done over the last twelve years, there is no way any party can do anywhere close to that kind of damage in four years. All I am saying is why not give them a chance?

 

[Musicman]

Blue was offed here a couple of months ago. Long Live Blue!

Blue was fired from his position as token neocon because he was a feckin' moron...perhaps you'd like to apply for the job?

Well, if being a "feckin' moron" is grounds for firing, Vanni Fucci, as Donald Trump would say "Your'e Fired!!" :wink:

 

[peapod]

I will take a thief any day, over that sick harper and his harperites. ukeright:

 

[Musicman]

I will take a thief any day, over that sick harper and his harperites. ukeright:

Well, as they say, no one will argue with your right to be wrong.

 

[peapod]

The day the conservative party finally kicks him and his sick followers out will be the day they take back their party, if harper and his harperites don't destroy it first.

 

[Musicman]

The day the conservative party finally kicks him and his sick followers out will be the day they take back their party, if harper and his harperites don't destroy it first.

I understand your position. Don't agree with it, but hey, thats life.

Don't you think, though, that if the conservatives turn more to the left they will be just a carbon copy of the Liberals? Did they not do that back in the early nineties which led to the Reform Party? The conservative party of Joe Clark was not conservative at all. In fact, some would even say they were further to the left of the current liberal party. So why do it again, and why have two identical parties?

 

[Vanni Fucci]

All I hear about the conservative leader is innuendo and old quotes to back the postion that Harper is bad. While he may have had some questionable views some years ago, these have changed, and for the better, in my opinion.

Hardly...his actions, and the actions of his MPs during his failed coup d'etat are directly in line with what he was saying way back when...

It's kind of like being a worker always trying to get into management, and when you get into management, your views change because you have a lot more information than workers do. Happens all the time, so why not cut him some slack?

How about because he's a feckin' neocon that couldn't be trusted as a school trustee...

Harper makes a comment back in the early 90's when he wasn't even in politics per se, and some make that out to be his position, no matter what he may say today.

So that shows us that he'll flip flop as much as or worse than Mr. Dithers...again, his failed coup d'etat showed us that as well...

Why people continue to support a known and proven liar and a corrupt government when there is an option available says something about the integrity of some Canadian voters.

Yep...that given the choice, they'd rather have thieves than bigots...

Hell, vote em in, and if they do what some here say they will, all within four years by the way, then vote em out again. After all, given the damage that the libs have done over the last twelve years, there is no way any party can do anywhere close to that kind of damage in four years. All I am saying is why not give them a chance?

I'm guessing that you don't remember the Mulroney government... :roll:

 

[Musicman]

All I hear about the conservative leader is innuendo and old quotes to back the postion that Harper is bad. While he may have had some questionable views some years ago, these have changed, and for the better, in my opinion.

Hardly...his actions, and the actions of his MPs during his failed coup d'etat are directly in line with what he was saying way back when...

Oh please. This just proves you have no idea what a coup d'etat is.

It's kind of like being a worker always trying to get into management, and when you get into management, your views change because you have a lot more information than workers do. Happens all the time, so why not cut him some slack?

How about because he's a feckin' neocon that couldn't be trusted as a school trustee...

Well, you would have to go to school to have to worry about a school trustee of any type. Your answer is a non answer and did not address the question or comment in any meaningful way.

Harper makes a comment back in the early 90's when he wasn't even in politics per se, and some make that out to be his position, no matter what he may say today.

So that shows us that he'll flip flop as much as or worse than Mr. Dithers...again, his failed coup d'etat :roll: showed us that as well...

No, Martin is a proven liar and thief. Harper has changed his opinions, not a platform. Big difference.

Why people continue to support a known and proven liar and a corrupt government when there is an option available says something about the integrity of some Canadian voters.

Yep...that given the choice, they'd rather have thieves than bigots...

Then there is no reason not to have Harper.

Hell, vote em in, and if they do what some here say they will, all within four years by the way, then vote em out again. After all, given the damage that the libs have done over the last twelve years, there is no way any party can do anywhere close to that kind of damage in four years. All I am saying is why not give them a chance?

I'm guessing that you don't remember the Mulroney government... :roll:

:roll: And i am guessing that you forget Harper was not an MP in Mulroneys government. And he has been critical of the style of the Mulroney government, just as he is critical of similar actions by the Martin government.

 

[no1important]

Harper has changed his opinions, not a platform. Big difference.

Well that shows he is also a flip flop artist, doesn't it blue?

Canadians want a progressive not regressive government and thats why that bigot Harper will never get in.

Plus I hear the old BBQ circut aint going to well as he is still way down in the polls.