Martin 'a jackass' - Parents of slain teen say.

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Grover Knight

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If Ottawa wants a war with Alberta, it looks like it is coming to that. Hell Ralph has already had meetings with Bush to open Albertan consilates in the USA. Why? cause those foolish morons in Ottawa dont do anything for the west. They love alienating us and fooling themsleves into the ideal that we mean nothing. We can blow them? What the hell does Scott Reid get off saying that? I think that Bush would love to have 51 states, maybe we should start negotiating with him on the topic, and take all the wealth with us. It will be a cold day in hell that Albertan's hand over guns to Liberal swine.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: Martin 'a jackass' - Parents of slain teen say.

Grover Knight said:
If Ottawa wants a war with Alberta, it looks like it is coming to that. Hell Ralph has already had meetings with Bush to open Albertan consilates in the USA. Why? cause those foolish morons in Ottawa dont do anything for the west. They love alienating us and fooling themsleves into the ideal that we mean nothing. We can blow them? What the hell does Scott Reid get off saying that? I think that Bush would love to have 51 states, maybe we should start negotiating with him on the topic, and take all the wealth with us. It will be a cold day in hell that Albertan's hand over guns to Liberal swine.

IF albertans want to be americans that badly.......why not move there en masse and leave the province where it belongs ......as part of Canada.

If the "west" is being treated shabbily by the Ottawa contingency........ why not scream louder. Not sure what Alberta has to complain about anyhow.

Greed , thy name is Alberta. ( am I glad I left there years ago......as Albertans would sell out Canada on a dime. )
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Martin 'a jackass' -

Alberta has nothing to scream about, Ocean. There are a small but vocal minority of them who refuse to understand democracy and think that they should be able to buy whatever kind of government they want. They are, thankfully, mistaken.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
Alberta has nothing to scream about, Ocean. There are a small but vocal minority of them who refuse to understand democracy and think that they should be able to buy whatever kind of government they want. They are, thankfully, mistaken.

I know........rather pitiful and selfish too. :x

what is a tad scary is that they are more 'american' than Canadian in their thinking now. Amazing how they fail to recognize that it is just good fortune and geography that provided them with the rich resources they have. They did NOT EARN the oil.

........but that is what wealth does to people ......or a gang of them. They want more and more power too. Maybe they want Ottawa to locate to Alberta so they can host the Fed Gov't too. Power can be mighty seductive......and when you have the megabucks.....it is never enough.
 

Breakthrough2006

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Nope, it was an election ploy. A publicity stunt would be something like Paul Martin being shot at while he was making the announcement.

Either way, Martin is full of it and is just trying to deceive voters.

You keep skipping the fact that collectors can say they are target shooters.

Yeah. Try to convince the government that you are using a 1920's hand gun for target shooting. You can't even get the ammo to use it for recreational purposes. By proving that this ban is a sham is just proving my point that Martin's "ploy" is a shame to begin with.

You and your buddy talk about seizures without ever mentioning that the government will be paying for the guns.

No one mentioned anything about seizures but at the end of the day, gun collectors could have a criminal record if they refuse to turn over their guns. Government paying $350 million dollars for guns is a fantastic idea. They can add it to the cost of the gun registry. :roll:

You are spreading mistruth. What did you expect to be called.

Spin away Rev. It's all you have left.
 

Reverend Blair

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Either way, Martin is full of it and is just trying to deceive voters.

Not really. You are ignoring the tougher sentencing laws and the extra border staff. I don't think he's doing enough, I'd be checking every car coming in from the US, but there's a lot more to his plan than you are admitting.

Even the part you are admitting will have some effect because there will be far less doubt that somebody with a gun is not allowed to have it and the number of guns will be reduced.



Yeah. Try to convince the government that you are using a 1920's hand gun for target shooting. You can't even get the ammo to use it for recreational purposes. By proving that this ban is a sham is just proving my point that Martin's "ploy" is a shame to begin with.

Funny, it wasn't that long ago that Colpy was making the point that guns last forever.

No one mentioned anything about seizures

Actually Colpy has been mentioning it since the day he got here and made reference to one of his guns today. Grover made reference to an elderly gun collector in Alberta being in danger of having his guns seized. You are, once again, wrong.

The pro-gun people here have been screaming like babies that government is going to take away their death-machines. That simply isn't true, but you all managed to ignore facts that were all over the media as part of your little tirades. That was a dishonest, even corrupt, thing to do.
 

Jo Canadian

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Breakthrough2006

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Not really. You are ignoring the tougher sentencing laws and the extra border staff.

Yeah right. The Liberals have a long history of being tough on crime. :roll:

Even the part you are admitting will have some effect because there will be far less doubt that somebody with a gun is not allowed to have it and the number of guns will be reduced.

No ones allowed to have it now. Hand guns are already banned. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Funny, it wasn't that long ago that Colpy was making the point that guns last forever.

So? It doesn't mean you can shoot target practice with antique guns.

Grover made reference to an elderly gun collector in Alberta being in danger of having his guns seized. You are, once again, wrong.

Telling the same lie over and over again doesn't make it true. I've already proven to you that you're a liar twice. Go read Martins speech on hand guns where he clearly states that gun collectors will have to give up their guns.

The pro-gun people here have been screaming like babies that government is going to take away their death-machines. That simply isn't true, but you all managed to ignore facts that were all over the media as part of your little tirades. That was a dishonest, even corrupt, thing to do.

Yawn. The Liberals have a monopoly on corruption minus Svend, but I'm sure he's considering crossing the floor so that he can compare shoes with Belinda. That way the Liberals can claim total corruption supremacy.
 

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Yeah right. The Liberals have a long history of being tough on crime.

So you believe part of their promise, but not the rest?

No ones allowed to have it now. Hand guns are already banned. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Hand guns aren't banned though. You can legally own one.

So? It doesn't mean you can shoot target practice with antique guns.

He was saying that you could shoot people with them, so why couldn't you shoot targets with them?

Telling the same lie over and over again doesn't make it true. I've already proven to you that you're a liar twice.

You've proven nothing but yopur own ignorance you lying piece of shit.

Go read Martins speech on hand guns where he clearly states that gun collectors will have to give up their guns.

Go read the analysis that says provinces can opt out and collectors can register as target shooters. You were unable to counter those facts so you resorted to calling me a liar, but it is you who is afraid of the truth,
 

yballa09

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dickwad, you called him a dickwad????? What are you, the playground bully? You don't have to finish your statement with pathetic insults, it only hurts your cause.
 

Grover Knight

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Paul Martin will burn with his Liberal franchise of losers. They are has beens and they will lose. It is simply a matter of time. This will usher in a new order of Conservative supreme command. They will turn over this frigging country, throw those liers in prison, and clean up parliament. They are the only party with this goal, stated over and over. They will clean house, it is somthing that has to be done, for over 40 yrs now, it is time to make a difference. It is time to dump the Left in a shallow grave and to rebuild the glory of Canada. This country has lost its lustre. Conservatives will rebuild this empire into world envy.
 

Grover Knight

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It is beyond me how the Liberals are even allowed to form a party, to run in an election, or to even walk proudly in public. They are shameful, they are thieves, they are criminals. Those found guilty should be given 30 years in prison each, no parol. All Liberal books should be turned over to RCMP for review. They should be suspended from even running in an election.
 

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Yet another thread I have to lock. * clear throat*

Reverend blair, please refrain from the name calling, if you continue you will be banned for 24 hours.

Grover,
You have already been banned once for 24 hours, stop trolling, and stop trying to incite with the reverend. Its clear your here for him, but if you continue on your present course, your going to be banned. Stick to the topic.
 
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