Mars is inhabited.
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People usually do not follow the man that is mentally ill; they will shrink from him and are almost cautious and afraid of him; and they have the right in this respect.
So the easiest way for Satan – to distract people from following the apostle – is say to them that the apostle is mentally ill, and they will be afraid of him, and cannot confidently follow him.
Satan
the Devil) will suggest his followers to tell people this to impede the progress of the religion of God.
All apostles: Mohammed and those before him, all of them were accused by being mentally ill.
To Jesus Christ, they also said that he was possessed, and that by Beelzebub the chief of devils, he was able to do his miracles.
This is in the Quran 51: 52
So the easiest way for Satan – to distract people from following the apostle – is say to them that the apostle is mentally ill, and they will be afraid of him, and cannot confidently follow him.
Satan
the Devil) will suggest his followers to tell people this to impede the progress of the religion of God.All apostles: Mohammed and those before him, all of them were accused by being mentally ill.
To Jesus Christ, they also said that he was possessed, and that by Beelzebub the chief of devils, he was able to do his miracles.
This is in the Quran 51: 52
كَذَلِكَ مَا أَتَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِهِم مِّن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا قَالُوا سَاحِرٌ أَوْ مَجْنُونٌ . أَتَوَاصَوْا بِهِ بَلْ هُمْ قَوْمٌ طَاغُونَ
The explanation:
(Even so: not a messenger came to those before [your people, O Mohammed], but they said: "A sorcerer, or mad.'
Did they recommend that to each other? [No, they didn't] but they were a froward people.)
It means: Those people lived in different places and in different periods of time; but in spite of that, they said the same words accusing their apostles with the same accusation of "sorcery and magic" and mental illness.
Those peoples who denied the apostles were in fact froward, tyrants and followers of the suggestions of Satan.
eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
(Even so: not a messenger came to those before [your people, O Mohammed], but they said: "A sorcerer, or mad.'
Did they recommend that to each other? [No, they didn't] but they were a froward people.)
It means: Those people lived in different places and in different periods of time; but in spite of that, they said the same words accusing their apostles with the same accusation of "sorcery and magic" and mental illness.
Those peoples who denied the apostles were in fact froward, tyrants and followers of the suggestions of Satan.
eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
lol You know that it's just possible he was under the influence of some hallucinogenics or something.
You know, temporarily insane. hehehehelol You know that it's just possible he was under the influence of some hallucinogenics or something.
Read carefully my previous reply just before yours dated (yesterday 11:38)
where it is explained that he was not mentally ill; but it is the strategy of Satan to suggest to people that the apostle is mentally ill to distract them from following the way of the apostle which leads them to God's Paradise.
This is not confined to one apostle in particular, but this is applied to all the apostles.
And there are many other accusations and inventions against the apostles like: magician, sorcerer, liar, covet to be their chief and king, someone else dictates to him the Quran, a poet, he will die and his religion will vanish away, devils and demons teaches him ...etc.
But all such accusations and inventions are without any proof; but only to stir doubts in the hearts of people lest they should follow the apostle at any time.
Such accusations that the book of mormon are also without proof, they are the tools of satan to stir doubts in the hearts of people lest they should give up their false religions and follow the teachings of the church of latter day saints.
(seriously, this is a science thread, the Koran nor any book of faith is not elligible for use)
(seriously, this is a science thread, the Koran nor any book of faith is not elligible for use)
This sect in the Christianity is like the Bahai in relation to the Islam.
Such a doctrine is only based on the enthusiasm about Jesus: considering him as God or a son of God.
There is not any proof to their claims, but only they say their faith is so and so and that their doctrine is correct: only as a matter of assertion without any evidence.
In one of their sacred papers, God showed Himself to one of their leaders!! and this is a most obvious lie and Satanic illusion.
It is said that Shaikh Abdul- Qadir saw one time that an illuminating person appeared before him, and said to him: "Abdul-Qadir, I am God: your Lord, so prostrate yourself to me." But this righteous man refused and said to him: "Away from me, Satan, our God cannot be seen by the eyesight."
It is also written it the Gospel, that Satan said to Jesus: "Prostrate yourself before me, and I shall make you king over all the kingdoms of the earth." But the Christ refused and said to him: "Away from me, Satan, for it is written that To God alone you should prostrate yourself, and Him alone you should serve."
eansassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
Satan has nothing to do with it eanassir; I have never talked to Satan but I have read the Koran and that is how I know Mohammad was bat $hit crazy. You see, it was Mohammad not Satan that convinced me - oh and you've helped too, your not Satan are you eanassir?
The Quran invites people to:
- Serve God alone without any associate or equal or son or daughter or parents.
- Believe in all the apostles of God including Moses, Jesus and Mohammed.
- Believe in all the heavenly books including the Ten Commandments written on the Tablets, the Books of the Torah, the Psalms, the Gospel and the Quran.
- The Quran came to confirm the Torah (most of it included in the Old Testament) and the Gospel, and to correct any addition or deletion or distortion that occurred in these old heavenly books.
Have you read the Quran in Arabic?
And if Mohammed was crazy, as you say, enumerate the points in summary that have lead you to adopt this opinion.
And if Mohammed was crazy, as you say, enumerate the points in summary that have lead you to adopt this opinion.
That's not proof of any of your claims though, as Zzarchov implicitly pointed out. You are vulnerable to precisely the same criticism you offered of others: "There is not any proof to their claims, but only they say their faith is so and so and that their doctrine is correct: only as a matter of assertion without any evidence." That's true of your position too, and you cannot argue otherwise without begging the question. You can't prove the Quran is true and correct by assuming it's true and correct then citing it in support of the claim that it's true and correct, which is really all you've been doing.
No, English.
eanassir said:
Sure, he thought he talked to god. Nothing in that book was evidence that he did. He didn't demonstrate anything that wasn't already known. He brought nothing new to the world except his rantings. Very much like Jesus or any other prophet. They bring exactly what you would expect if they were mentally ill - nothing but strong opinions and unfulfilled delusions of grandeur.
Don't get me wrong, they might have been nice people, meant well, intelligent, articulate etc,. but also mad as hatters and vacant of anything except a new perspective on rehashed ideas that were current for their time.
Their presence (prophets) and ministries are proof of nothing because they are in themselves plagiarisms. Almost exclusively all social development that happens after them happens despite their work not because of it. Then another loony comes along and claims that as his!
It's just another example of how religious people are so quick to attribute the works of brilliant people to a sky god instead of where it truly belongs.
lol Speaking of inventions, there are no gods and demons outside of the human mind. So this discussion is not only irrelevant, it has nothing to do with life on Mars. Citing scripture after scripture from a book that is its own authority is meaningless. Same damned thing that Christians do. Their god exists because he said so in their Bible. It IS NOT PROOF of anything, as Dex and many others have pointed out. In other words, I could say that I have blue skin just because I have blue skin. And the proof is that I said so.
Sorry, but in regards to the Islamic view of their faith:
"There is not any proof to their claims, but only they say their faith is so and so and that their doctrine is correct: only as a matter of assertion without any evidence. "
If we investigate all the religions and doctrines now prevailing on earth; we see almost most of them are the religions of association with God: they associate others with God through the way of enthusiasm concerning their prophets and religious leaders.
- Some are enthusiastic about Abraham and Jacob and the prophets among his sons ;
- Others are enthusiastic about Jesus and other patron saints;
- Another sect even are enthusiastic about Mohammed, his comrades and Ali and his sons;
- Some associate Satan with God, and fear him as do they fear God or more, etc.
The true original religion proceeds from God, and invites people exclusively to Him alone; but later on the enthusiasm (by the work of Satan) will lead them to glorify their prophet and their religious leaders: making them like patrons together with their true Master: their Creator.
A true prophet is that who invites people: to God That sent him, to glorify Him alone, and to consecrate their work and servitude to Him alone.
Therefore this is the indicative mark: if the apostle proceeds from God, he will invite people to God alone and not to anyone else besides Him.
The true apostle sent by God will invite people to glorify Him that sent him, and not to glorify any prophet or any other creature.
On the contrary, if the apostle invites them to glorify Jesus, Moses, Ali or Abdul- Qadir, then he is false and a liar.
The liar cannot bring the pure monotheism; because he himself will be misguided and cannot reach to this pure monotheism and complete submission to God alone.
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
One should believe in the Ten Commandments rather than bewildering himself with the enthusiastic ideas and doctrines which will confuse the mind.
In particular, it is better to hold fast with the First Commandment which is the essence of all the heavenly religions.
http://universeandquran.site.io/#First_Commandment
This First Commandment pertains to God: that He is One without associate or equal.
All the life of man has to be programmed according to it.
The true prophet will receive the revelation from God, and will not go and make excavation seeking after some alleged mysterious papers or the alike.
This is in the Quran 6: 93 about those of the Children of Israel in the past who falsely claimed themselves prophets and apostles:
In particular, it is better to hold fast with the First Commandment which is the essence of all the heavenly religions.
http://universeandquran.site.io/#First_Commandment
This First Commandment pertains to God: that He is One without associate or equal.
All the life of man has to be programmed according to it.
The true prophet will receive the revelation from God, and will not go and make excavation seeking after some alleged mysterious papers or the alike.
This is in the Quran 6: 93 about those of the Children of Israel in the past who falsely claimed themselves prophets and apostles:
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَى عَلَى اللّهِ كَذِبًا أَوْ قَالَ أُوْحِيَ إِلَيَّ وَلَمْ يُوحَ إِلَيْهِ شَيْءٌ وَمَن قَالَ سَأُنزِلُ مِثْلَ مَا أَنَزلَ اللّهُ وَلَوْ تَرَى إِذِ الظَّالِمُونَ فِي غَمَرَاتِ الْمَوْتِ وَالْمَلآئِكَةُ بَاسِطُواْ أَيْدِيهِمْ أَخْرِجُواْ أَنفُسَكُمُ الْيَوْمَ تُجْزَوْنَ عَذَابَ الْهُونِ بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَقُولُونَ عَلَى اللّهِ غَيْرَ الْحَقِّ وَكُنتُمْ عَنْ آيَاتِهِ تَسْتَكْبِرُونَ
The explanation:
(But who can do more wrong than one [i.e. no one can do wrong more than he does]:
>> who invents a lie against God [when he claimed himself a prophet or an apostle],
>> or who says: "I have been inspired [of God]" when nothing [of that] has been inspired to him,
>> and who says: "I shall reveal [a revelation] like [the Quran] that God has revealed.
If you [Mohammed] could only see when the wrong-doers [those of the Children of Israel in the past who falsely claimed the prophet-hood] suffered the agonies of death [like the drowned]
and the angels [of death] are stretching forth their hands [saying]:
"Get your souls out [of your bodies]; today you shall be recompensed with the chastisement of humiliation;
for that you said [lies] against God [and words] other than the truth, and that you were arrogantly proud over [believing in] His signs [of revelation.] )
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
(But who can do more wrong than one [i.e. no one can do wrong more than he does]:
>> who invents a lie against God [when he claimed himself a prophet or an apostle],
>> or who says: "I have been inspired [of God]" when nothing [of that] has been inspired to him,
>> and who says: "I shall reveal [a revelation] like [the Quran] that God has revealed.
If you [Mohammed] could only see when the wrong-doers [those of the Children of Israel in the past who falsely claimed the prophet-hood] suffered the agonies of death [like the drowned]
and the angels [of death] are stretching forth their hands [saying]:
"Get your souls out [of your bodies]; today you shall be recompensed with the chastisement of humiliation;
for that you said [lies] against God [and words] other than the truth, and that you were arrogantly proud over [believing in] His signs [of revelation.] )
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com